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The WORST TNG episodes
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08-02-2009 9:55pm#1
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norrie rugger wrote: »At least they dod not bother with more of Scotch-World
Fairhaven anyone from Voyager.
What was the one on the holodeck that had the ship making a thing (thing as it was never explained or seen again)
Oh God, those Bareshaven episodes? There'a a thread in AH asking if people find it offensive when programmes make fun of Irish stereotypes (Simpsons and Family guy were mentioned) The general consensus (and my own opinion too) was that nobody had a problem, you should be able to laugh at your own cliches etc (Plus, the episodes were bloody funny)
But those bareshaven episodes I found very offensive. With every bejaysus and begorrah cliche going. If Paramount had made a similar episode with spear chucking black savages or "Meee so solly" bucktoothed Asians then the studio would have been Burned to the ground, and rightly so.
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. anyway, that's my rant. As for the OP: Yeah, that Broken Bough episode really blew.
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TheIrishGrover wrote: »But those bareshaven episodes I found very offensive. With every bejaysus and begorrah cliche going. If Paramount had made a similar episode with spear chucking black savages or "Meee so solly" bucktoothed Asians then the studio would have been Burned to the ground, and rightly so.
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. anyway, that's my rant. As for the OP: Yeah, that Broken Bough episode really blew.
Code of Honour lol0 -
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TheIrishGrover wrote: »Oh God, those Bareshaven episodes? There'a a thread in AH asking if people find it offensive when programmes make fun of Irish stereotypes (Simpsons and Family guy were mentioned) The general consensus (and my own opinion too) was that nobody had a problem, you should be able to laugh at your own cliches etc (Plus, the episodes were bloody funny)
But those bareshaven episodes I found very offensive. With every bejaysus and begorrah cliche going. If Paramount had made a similar episode with spear chucking black savages or "Meee so solly" bucktoothed Asians then the studio would have been Burned to the ground, and rightly so.
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. anyway, that's my rant. As for the OP: Yeah, that Broken Bough episode really blew.
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Like many others, I love the Irish jokes that often appear in Simpsons and Family Guy. They are usually clever, and the shows themselves are comedies and are not meant to be taken too seriously.
The Star Trek crew however, seem to me to have a very odd mindset to the rest of the world, Ireland included.
The 'BallinaPaddy' aka Fair Haven (Truman Show?) episodes are just plain evil in their conception. It's wall-to-wall Oirish, with 'Tommy-boy' and his amazing horseless carriage, doleing out cash to local drunkards...while most of the populace hunt down 'Spirit Folk' and engage in other cutesy ri-ra agus rulla bulla.
Now if this really was comedy, I'd be just mildly pissed-off. But Paris brags about it being an 'authentic' recreation of an Irish village. Thus, that stupidity is supposed to be regarded as serious. :eek:
What is the Berman Crew's problem with Ireland and the Irish?
The best we get is Colm Meaney, who spent most of TNG getting demoted for some reason (he's pips kept disappearing) and then eventually becomes a 'Non-Com' and is outranked by even the ensigns!
One of my least favourite TNG episodes (back on topic here), is Season 2's 'Up the Long Ladder'. In this episode, the crew find what's left of future EU attempt to spread the Euro to other worlds, which turns out to be a rural Irish colony who have appeared to have de-evolved (EU's revenge for Lisbon perhaps
). This episode is pretty much as bad as the future shambles on Voyager with every cliché in the book.
The Scene where Brenna tries to seduce Riker is cringe-worthy.
Brenna: 'Where moight a lass wash her fee'ate in a place loike this?'
Riker: 'I dunno...but I do know a good place for sex...'
Star Trek's view of the world has always been weird.
-Irish / Scotish are either Engineers or savages
-French speak with British accents
-Everyone else is Japanese
If they ever start doing another Star Trek series (unlikely for now), I would hope that they pick up a National Geographic or something and learn about the cultures they lampoon.
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Like many others, I love the Irish jokes that often appear in Simpsons and Family Guy. They are usually clever, and the shows themselves are comedies and are not meant to be taken too seriously.
The Star Trek crew however, seem to me to have a very odd mindset to the rest of the world, Ireland included.
The 'BallinaPaddy' aka Fair Haven (Truman Show?) episodes are just plain evil in their conception. It's wall-to-wall Oirish, with 'Tommy-boy' and his amazing horseless carriage, doleing out cash to local drunkards...while most of the populace hunt down 'Spirit Folk' and engage in other cutesy ri-ra agus rulla bulla.
Now if this really was comedy, I'd be just mildly pissed-off. But Paris brags about it being an 'authentic' recreation of an Irish village. Thus, that stupidity is supposed to be regarded as serious. :eek:
What is the Berman Crew's problem with Ireland and the Irish?
The best we get is Colm Meaney, who spent most of TNG getting demoted for some reason (he's pips kept disappearing) and then eventually becomes a 'Non-Com' and is outranked by even the ensigns!
One of my least favourite TNG episodes (back on topic here), is Season 2's 'Up the Long Ladder'. In this episode, the crew find what's left of future EU attempt to spread the Euro to other worlds, which turns out to be a rural Irish colony who have appeared to have de-evolved (EU's revenge for Lisbon perhaps). This episode is pretty much as bad as the future shambles on Voyager with every cliché in the book.
The Scene where Brenna tries to seduce Riker is cringe-worthy.
Brenna: 'Where moight a lass wash her fee'ate in a place loike this?'
Riker: 'I dunno...but I do know a good place for sex...'
Star Trek's view of the world has always been weird.
-Irish / Scotish are either Engineers or savages
-French speak with British accents
-Everyone else is Japanese
If they ever start doing another Star Trek series (unlikely for now), I would hope that they pick up a National Geographic or something and learn about the cultures they lampoon.
/rant
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In When the Bough Breaks the Irish community are supposed to have left earth in the 22nd century or something. Looks like we're in for a rough century then, when Irish society devolves to pre-famine times!
Another possible non-insulting Irish reference was in an episode of Enterprise when the crew link up via subspace with a primary school in Kenmare, Co. Kerry. Thought that was a nice touch, with no hauling out of the 'ol Oirish stereotypes. Not much was mentioned about Ireland in that episode but at least our schools can communicate with straships lightyears away!0 -
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