Help! How much is this worth?

Freddie59 · 11-02-2009 8:00pm

subway wrote: »

but this never was an aspirational area. its working class.

What in Heaven's name does that mean?:mad:

I'd love someone to break down what is working class and what is middle class:rolleyes: in Ireland. Petty snobbery of the worst kind.

"Aspirational areas". WTF??!!

subway · 11-02-2009 8:14pm

then why is it worth more than 12 times the average salary?

this is the kind of BS people state to ecplain why there average houses are worth ridciulous amounts. im just pushing it back the other way.

and i live in baldoyle (and have done all my life)

ntlbell · 11-02-2009 8:35pm

Freddie59 wrote: »

What in Heaven's name does that mean?:mad:

I'd love someone to break down what is working class and what is middle class:rolleyes: in Ireland. Petty snobbery of the worst kind.

"Aspirational areas". WTF??!!

if you need to be educated on the simple concept that is social classes this is really the wrong forum.

Try this out tho.

Off the top of your head

try and name one area in dublin based on your own criteria or any criteria you like that might be working class

now try the same with middle class

you might surprise yourself

for a bonus point try and name an area middle class people might aspire to live in.

Freddie59 · 11-02-2009 11:26pm

ntlbell wrote: »

if you need to be educated on the simple concept that is social classes this is really the wrong forum.

Try this out tho.

Off the top of your head

try and name one area in dublin based on your own criteria or any criteria you like that might be working class

now try the same with middle class

you might surprise yourself

for a bonus point try and name an area middle class people might aspire to live in.

As I said already - petty snobbery at its worst. A penny looking down on two ha'pennies.:)

ntlbell · 11-02-2009 11:31pm

Freddie59 wrote: »

As I said already - petty snobbery at its worst. A penny looking down on two ha'pennies.:)

I'm not really sure I understand what your talking about?

Who's a snob?

and what has it got to do with social classes or property prises?

Freddie59 · 14-02-2009 3:51pm

ntlbell wrote: »

I'm not really sure I understand what your talking about?

Who's a snob?

and what has it got to do with social classes or property prises?

Not saying you're a snob my friend.:) But I have observed a growing number of comments about this whole working class/middle class BS, particularly during our 'Tiger' years.

OK I get the whole 'D4' BS (they're in every city & town - nouveau riche, usually up to their tits in associated debt), but I have asked before. Can someone explain what is the difference between working class and the so-called middle classes in Ireland?

What jobs/professions would fall into these 'categories'.

FFS we're not living in the UK. Or is it heading down that road.

North_West_Art · 14-02-2009 4:28pm

before you start looking to buy in Dublin, take a quick look at whats being happening in other areas of Ireland. Last week, a half acre site with planning permission was sold in Letterkenny for €20,000. 2 years ago that would have been €80,000. There are alot of pretty stuck people in the country now, willing to take any price

ntlbell · 14-02-2009 11:19pm

Freddie59 wrote: »

Not saying you're a snob my friend.:) But I have observed a growing number of comments about this whole working class/middle class BS, particularly during our 'Tiger' years.

OK I get the whole 'D4' BS (they're in every city & town - nouveau riche, usually up to their tits in associated debt), but I have asked before. Can someone explain what is the difference between working class and the so-called middle classes in Ireland?

What jobs/professions would fall into these 'categories'.

FFS we're not living in the UK. Or is it heading down that road.

I asked you to do the same and you ignored the answer, so why are you surprised that no one has answered it for you?

subway · 16-02-2009 5:22pm

subway wrote: »

not 45k more than this one anyway
http://www.daft.ie/searchsale.daft?id=418638

now back on the market

bobbiw · 16-02-2009 7:49pm

That house will be 100k in a few years.

Its not a matter of waiting to see if prices drop, houses in Ireland will be worthless in the next 5 years, its heading the way of Iceland.

Juwwi · 16-02-2009 8:41pm

iguana wrote: »

I used to be very skeptical about the price crash, but once you look at the facts the reality is very clear. I'll see your €50 and raise you €99,950 if you like. I have very little doubt that those houses will be valued below €250k before the bottom is reached. If you're good for the money I'll gladly take it off you.:p

l cant agree with the above more.
l wouldnt be thinking of buying at the moment.
untill the excess amount of property on the market
dries up house prices will continue to fall.

johnnyskeleton · 16-02-2009 10:23pm

Freddie59 wrote: »

OK I get the whole 'D4' BS (they're in every city & town - nouveau riche, usually up to their tits in associated debt), but I have asked before. Can someone explain what is the difference between working class and the so-called middle classes in Ireland?

During the boom, the working class were, ironically enough, the people who didn't work. It's hard to claim you're working class as a taxi driver or plumber who earns 70k+ p.a. and owns 3 investment properties.

subway · 24-02-2009 2:45pm

Karlrove wrote: »

I donts think people will sell below 370k in this area....

http://www.daft.ie/1418638
now 369,950

more to go...

Poloman · 24-02-2009 2:48pm

I am always amazed at the prices of houses in Dublin. I will never ever live there.

Kipperhell · 24-02-2009 8:31pm

Poloman wrote: »

I am always amazed at the prices of houses in Dublin. I will never ever live there.

You do realise salaries are higher here too? There are more jobs etc...

The house is way over priced simple as. It is also one of the rougher areas of Dublin and I would say there are more people living there likely to be/become unemployed.

Karlrove · 05-03-2009 9:04pm

update on number 75.....360k. seems very good...what do you think?

Gurgle · 05-03-2009 9:53pm

Karlrove wrote: »

update on number 75.....360k. seems very good...what do you think?

They accepted €360k?
Thats quite a drop, well done.

Bluetonic · 05-03-2009 11:24pm

Karlrove wrote: »

update on number 75.....360k. seems very good...what do you think?

Talk to us in a year.

Waste of money at current price for all the reasons state above, but then it's also been hinted that you want to hear what your thinking as it's gone emotional, I agree.

subway · 06-03-2009 9:08am

theyre dropping at around 10k a month.
i still say wait.

bobbiw · 26-06-2009 3:08pm

Of course wait, the irish property market is nowhere near the bottom.

That home will be 150k before this ends if not lower.

You will be picking up city center and southside apartments for less than 100k.

subway · 30-06-2009 7:47pm

rentable now, for 1300 pm (or less)
@1300, calculates to 218,400 with yield of 7% or 200k if you leave in voids
1100 could be realistic this year so that gives 184k or 169k with voids

hmmm

http://www.daft.ie/2734064

edit, scratch that, theres another one availble
http://www.daft.ie/2741665

hard bargaining possibly could get this for 950
159k to 143k

ellejay · 01-07-2009 9:19am

Not sure if I'm comparing like for like, not familiar with the area, but number 13 Admiral Park is a 4bed and asking price is only 399, have you looked at this house? http://www.myhome.ie/residential/search/brochure/13-admiral-park-baldoyle-dublin-co&-city/XSXFY393740

gurramok · 01-07-2009 10:42am

'Only' 399k? It ain't worth that much to me.

Anyone willing to pay 399k for that house?

BlackWizard · 01-07-2009 10:52am

gurramok wrote: »

'Only' 399k? It ain't worth that much to me.

Anyone willing to pay 399k for that house?

I would if I got the house next to it for free.

ellejay · 01-07-2009 10:52am

Personally I wouldn't pay that much either, but I'm just making the point that the asking price is 29.5k cheaper, yet there's an extra bedroom and bathroom compared to number 75 Admiral Park.
So, loads more room for the OP to negotiate further, in my opinion.
360k still too much to pay for the house.

subway · 24-07-2009 9:35am

subway wrote: »

http://www.daft.ie/1418638
now 369,950

more to go...

http://www.myhome.ie/residential/search/brochure/13-admiral-park-baldoyle-dublin-co&-city/XSXFY393740

4 bed for 329k in the same estate

4 months wait for an extra bedroom and 40k off the asking price.
and people still think I'm mad to wait

niallo27 · 29-07-2009 4:47pm

http://www.daft.ie/1458223

what kind of first offer to people think we should put in for this

Theboinkmaster · 29-07-2009 6:58pm

niallo27 wrote: »

http://www.daft.ie/1458223

what kind of first offer to people think we should put in for this

That's not worth any more than €150k - do some research here and at www.thepropertypin.com

The_Conductor · 29-07-2009 7:30pm

No schadenfreude here please.
By all means use Admiral Park as a barometer- but try not to personalise it.

OP- you asked 'how much is this worth?'
I refer you to a quotation attributed to Publius Sirus almost 2000 years ago- when he replied to a similar question with- 'Everything is worth what its purchaser is willing to pay for it..........' Its worth whatever its worth to you. Is it worth a commensurate amount to someone else- almost certainly not.

It is a very bad idea to become emotionally attached when you are buying anything- at all..... even grocery shopping. Ever gone shopping before you'd had anything to eat- and come home with a load of all sorts of groceries that you'd never have even looked at- had you eaten something before hand?

In the case of Admiral Park- why don't you rent there for a while? Prices are continuing to fall- and it would also allow you to get a feel for the area. You may discover that the 'bargain' you have your eye on, may not be such a bargain after all.......

niallo27 · 29-07-2009 9:16pm

Theboinkmaster wrote: »

That's not worth any more than €150k - do some research here and at www.thepropertypin.com

can i ask where you got that figure from

Help! How much is this worth?

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