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Website not comatible with Ie6

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  • 10-02-2009 3:42pm
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    ShoulderChip
    Registered Users Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭


    Hi,
    So I've been designing a website for a company and just found out that they run Internet Exploere 6 exclusively, and that a lot of my site looks crap on that, specificaly tables,

    the site works fine on firefox or IE7,

    where could I go about fixing this? or making it compatible?

    thanks.


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    #2
    heggie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,879 ✭✭✭heggie


    learn good practices, ditch the tables and test, fix, test, fix, test some more


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    ShoulderChip
    Registered Users Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭ShoulderChip


    how can i ditch tables, what would I use instead?

    The problem is I can't even get IE6 working on vista so I hav eno idea what is going wrong.


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    daymobrew
    Registered Users Posts: 6,511 ✭✭✭daymobrew


    ShoulderChip wrote: »
    how can i ditch tables, what would I use instead?
    CSS.
    ShoulderChip wrote: »
    The problem is I can't even get IE6 working on vista so I hav eno idea what is going wrong.
    Try getting screenshots via IE NetRenderer.


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    p
    Registered Users Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭p


    You'll just have to test it, tweak it, adjust it and see how you get on. Learning about the differences in web browsers is an important part of being a designer. All websites should be compatible with IE6. It's the most popular browser in use.

    Microsoft have a free virtual image of XP running IE6 that you can use for testing purposes. Just download the image and a free copy of Virtual PC and you can test it.

    Info here:
    http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/11/30/ie6-and-ie7-running-on-a-single-machine.aspx


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    forbairt
    Registered Users Posts: 3,594 ✭✭✭forbairt


    One of my main sites .. IE is just under 68% of users

    IE6 is 34% of that ... so thats about 23% of all users to the site using IE6 ... a please upgrade message doesn't cut it ..

    (damn I should probably go check some of my sites for IE6 compatability) :D


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    heggie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,879 ✭✭✭heggie


    also, the amount of business' that still use ie6 in their offices would be a much higher percentage, while 20% seems the norm for a general statistic, if your target is a business I would guess that the percentage will be significantly higher.


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    cocoa
    Registered Users Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭cocoa


    I once used a set ie7 javascript hacks to fix browser compatibility issues, it might be worth a try. although if your trouble is with tables I'd agree that you're best off ditching them and using CSS...


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    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    ShoulderChip wrote: »
    Hi,
    So I've been designing a website for a company and just found out that they run Internet Exploere 6 exclusively, and that a lot of my site looks crap on that, specificaly tables...
    Specifically, what table issues are you having?
    (Not) stretching, widths, padding? Are you using any CSS at all?


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    John_Mc
    Registered Users Posts: 2,791 ✭✭✭John_Mc


    I use Multiple IE to work through cross browser problems with my CSS. I can only imagine how hard it'd be to fix using tables and no css!


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    CuLT
    Subscribers Posts: 9,716 ✭✭✭CuLT


    John_Mc wrote: »
    I use Multiple IE to work through cross browser problems with my CSS. I can only imagine how hard it'd be to fix using tables and no css!
    +1 for Multiple IE, handy tool, don't know if it works on Vista though.


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    Goodshape
    Registered Users Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    CuLT wrote: »
    +1 for Multiple IE, handy tool, don't know if it works on Vista though.

    Nope. You'll need the disc image p linked to to get ie6 working in vista. Pain in the hole.


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    devildriver
    Registered Users Posts: 874 ✭✭✭devildriver


    I think the first thing to do is explain to your client that they should upgrade their browsers for security and performance reasons.

    However that doesn't really leave you off the hook in that unless you stipulated in your contract that your base level of IE compatibility is IE7 then you need to make it work with IE6 which is arguably the most troublesome browser to work with in terns of css compatibility.

    In my own experience IE6 usage is declining very quickly but it still repersents a large number of internet users, too large to ignore at this point.

    On one of my client's sites (business oriented) the usage of IE is at 66.8% and within that IE6 is at 22.3% which is a big decline from 3 months ago.

    In terms of testing there are plenty of options as mentioned above. Another one is Litmus which is a paid services but they are now offering free access at the weekends if you want to burn the midnight oil.

    http://litmusapp.com/blog/free-weekends-february


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    squibs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 975 ✭✭✭squibs


    Nope. You'll need the disc image p linked to to get ie6 working in vista. Pain in the hole.
    Try this:
    http://www.my-debugbar.com/wiki/IETester/HomePage

    It's vista compatible. I just heard about it today, so I haven't played with it much yet.


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    Goodshape
    Registered Users Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    squibs wrote: »
    Try this:
    http://www.my-debugbar.com/wiki/IETester/HomePage
    Awesome! Thanks very much for that.


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    #16
    jmcc
    Registered Users Posts: 7,412 ✭✭✭jmcc


    heggie wrote: »
    learn good practices, ditch the tables and test, fix, test, fix, test some more
    Sometimes tables can be the most efficient and most compatible solution. Perhaps when the Grids in IE8 become more standardised it will be time to drop tables completely.

    Regards...jmcc


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    p
    Registered Users Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭p


    jmcc wrote: »
    Sometimes tables can be the most efficient and most compatible solution. Perhaps when the Grids in IE8 become more standardised it will be time to drop tables completely.
    Regards...jmcc
    That statement hasn't really been true for a few years now.


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    #18
    squibs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 975 ✭✭✭squibs


    Tables are great for tabular data! :)

    Regarding, that ietester thing I linked to earlier, it seems to be using ie8 beta 2 as the rendering engine, and that seems to be very different to the RC1 rendering engine as featured on http://ipinfo.info/netrenderer/

    Testing a few of my sites, they look fine on net renderer, but come over all Andy Warhol with IE tester. Can anybody verify big differences between the two? I'm either going to be very busy or very quiet when IE8 hits...


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