Will Rafa ever win the Premier League with Liverpool?

L'prof

I was just reading the Liverpool thread and a couple of lads were arguing about it in there and just the other day, I was thinking about the very same thing and I don't think that he will! So, what do you think?

therecklessone

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mike65

How long does he have and how much money?

L'prof

therecklessone wrote: »

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There's a question here that's best discussed away from the Liverpool superthread, but if thread descends into another slagging match, it will be closed and posters will be dealt with accordingly.

Noted. I don't want anything like that to happen, I just want to see what the general consensus is around here!

Samurai

nope, he wont

L'prof

mike65 wrote: »

How long does he have and how much money?

He has until he leaves Liverpool, I can't decide how much money he's going to be given, but he's had quite a bit so far!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

If given the control he wants with the transfers, then yes, I believe he will. If not, I lean towards no.

Liverpool need another attacking midfielder. Common knowledge, really. He tried to bring in Barry, move was blocked. The Keane saga is well known but I don't think Rafa would have paid twenty mill for him if it meant missing out on Barry.

destroyer

Eh , the answer to your question is no.

_blank_

I don't think he will.

L'prof

Aquos76 wrote: »

Why single out United fans in the poll ,why should there opinion differ from other supporters of clubs with in the PL.

Because I wanted to see exactly where Liverpool fans lie on this one and where the rest of the leagues fans lie and with United being one of their big rivals and there being a lot of United fans here, I gave them a separate option too!

Boggles

He is off to Coach Madrid in the summer, so if he doesn't win it in the next few months that's a definate no.

L'prof

Melion wrote: »

I have to agree, why did United fans get a seperate option? Just asking for trouble really.

I don't see it that way, we'll just see how the voting pans out! I would expect most of the yes votes to come from Liverpool fans and most of the no votes coming from United fans and I think the rest will be mostly no too, but I just wanted to check!

therecklessone

jasonorr wrote: »

I don't see it that way, we'll just see how the voting pans out! I would expect most of the yes votes to come from Liverpool fans and most of the no votes coming from United fans and I think the rest will be mostly no too, but I just wanted to check!

The poll is as it is. It won't be changing. If anyone has a problem with that, discuss with me via PM.

colly10

Boggles wrote: »

He is off to Coach Madrid in the summer, so if he doesn't win it in the next few months that's a definate no.

Where are you getting your "facts" from boggles. Don't see why he would choose to go this year when he didn't before.
@the OP - The poll options are too black and white, a maybe or something along those lines wouldn't go astray

The Hustler

Leeds fan here.......we've won the league more recently than Liverpool, and I'm pretty certain we'll win it again before they do

Boggles

colly10 wrote: »

Where are you getting your "facts" from boggles. Don't see why he would choose to go this year when he didn't before.
@the OP - The poll options are too black and white, a maybe or something along those lines wouldn't go astray

3 main reasons

1. he rejected his contract
2. he quit his last club because of a carbon copy power struggle over purchasing players
3. He supported Real Madrid growing up.

colly10

The Hustler wrote: »

Leeds fan here.......we've won the league more recently than Liverpool, and I'm pretty certain we'll win it again before they do

Id be fairly certain that you won't be seeing the premiership again so that would be impossible

The Hustler

colly10 wrote: »

Id be fairly certain that you won't be seeing the premiership again so that would be impossible

You keep believing that

SWAR

The Hustler wrote: »

Leeds fan here.......we've won the league more recently than Liverpool, and I'm pretty certain we'll win it again before they do

League 1 maybe!!

I'm a Liverpool fan and I regretfully don't think we'll win the league under Rafa, but would obviously love to be proved wrong as I do have a lot of respect for him and he comes across as a nice guy. His defensive mentality will always be one of his downfalls IMO and although he has bought some good players, he has also bought too much crap.

Frisbee

I don't think he ever will

colly10

The Hustler wrote: »

You keep believing that

If you honestly believe our own prediction you should make the trek down to paddy power, im sure he'll give you great odds on it

kryogen

its not that black and white, but short answer is no i guess

The Hustler

colly10 wrote: »

If you honestly believe our own prediction you should make the trek down to paddy power, im sure he'll give you great odds on it

Probably not in my lifetime, so who'll collect? :-PAs it stands, I'll take the League One title over the Prem

cournioni

I personally think he is too erratic and inconsistant to manage any Liverpool side to the Premiership. I think his current squad are years and years away from being good enough. Far too dependant on Torres and Gerrard (yes I am aware that they beat United without these two).

PiE

Boggles wrote: »

He is off to Coach Madrid in the summer, so if he doesn't win it in the next few months that's a definate no.

Yea Benitez and Ronaldo will prove a great partnership.

Benitez will win the league assuming boardroom antics don't sabotage his efforts.

And it will be so, so sweet when he does.

Carroller16

NO .. UNited are just too good

spockety

What ludicrous options.

Surely it should be, "Is Rafa Benitez a manager capable of winning the Premier League, if given the resources required?".

pvt.joker

spockety wrote: »

What ludicrous options.

Surely it should be, "Is Rafa Benitez a manager capable of winning the Premier League, if given the resources required?".

come off it. Stop making excuses for the man. He's had one of the largest transfer kittys in the PL in the last 5 seasons, and has squandered on mediocre players.

PiE

Sigh. Here we go again.

therecklessone

What part of this was hard to understand?

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Ardent

No for me as well. I was a big fan of Benitez in his first couple of seasons at Liverpool but...

Some continental managers are just patently unable to adapt to the English game and unfortunately Benitez is one of those managers. He has shown this over almost 5 disappointing Premiership campaigns.