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The SFIV count down thread!
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Yes but I'm holding out for the PC version.right well a few more games into it now. Still haven't managed to pull off an ultra in a ranked match, and my constant trying just makes me lose faster
2 questions:
1. My controller has turbo, is there any reason I should use it in SFIV?
2. How do you knock the other person out for a few seconds, where birds fly around their head? I've noticed online the person I'm against tends to do it, and then use that time to pull off an ultra when I'm disabled.0 -
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1. I wouldn't. The only time you need it is for something like the 100 handslap but I find just hammering the button does just as well. It's probably just so you can use it in other games like shmups.
2. You have to keep landing blows against your opponent in quick succession. SF3 had a dizzy meter but it's been removed in this one. Characters take different amounts of punishment before being dizzied so Akuma would only take a few smacks while Zangief would take a whole lot.
If you want to pull off an easy ultra I recommend Chun Li. I usually have no problem with her ultra and since it's not similar to any of her moves she won't pull off an EX special if you fail. Only problem is if you are playing agianst a defensive player, you will have to go on the offense and throw it into a combo or after a jump attack. She's a great character as well. Other characters like Blanka and that which have the same movement are a good choice as well. Thats with a ****ty 360 pad so it's probably easier with a madcatz pad.
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Hell yes, getting it for the PS3right well a few more games into it now. Still haven't managed to pull off an ultra in a ranked match, and my constant trying just makes me lose faster
2 questions:
1. My controller has turbo, is there any reason I should use it in SFIV?
2. How do you knock the other person out for a few seconds, where birds fly around their head? I've noticed online the person I'm against tends to do it, and then use that time to pull off an ultra when I'm disabled.
You don't need to use ultra's, they're extremely unsafe and some characters have better ultra's than others.
Only time you should even try using an ultra is after a level 3 focus then dash cancel or if your opponent is dizzy.
Turbo isn't really needed at all in SFIV, they have made moves like Blanka's electricity and Chun's lighting legs alot easier to execute without having to mash as hard as before.
Each character has a stun bar so when that reaches it's limit, your character will get dizzied for a few secs. You should work on your defence if you're getting dizzied mid way through a match.0 -
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Dreddybajs wrote: »I'm pretty sure she can only really combo it off EX legs in the corner, maybe a deep j.rh too? A great way to land her ultra is wait for them to fire a fireball at you, you'll go through it and hit from almost fullscreen if you get it out fast enough.
Well I'm not that good yet
. I keep getting hit by fireballs when I try that, haven't got the timing down yet. Can you do it with a super as well?
I didn't know you couldn't combo into it, I'll have practice my focus attacks instead.
Is there a way to counter Zangiefs piledriver and the super/ultra versions from just when you get up off the ground. Seems like a really good tactic to jump forward and unleash a ultra just as the player gets up off the ground?
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Hell yes, getting it for the PS3Retr0gamer wrote: »Well I'm not that good yet. I keep getting hit by fireballs when I try that, haven't got the timing down yet. Can you do it with a super as well?
I didn't know you couldn't combo into it, I'll have practice my focus attacks instead.
Is there a way to counter Zangiefs piledriver and the super/ultra versions from just when you get up off the ground. Seems like a really good tactic to jump forward and unleash a ultra just as the player gets up off the ground?
If you do Zangief's ultra when they're just recovering from a knockdown they can jump straight up or jump back just as you're doing it so it's not good to do it then unless they press something, then it will connect.
Reversals like a shoryuken will beat out Zangief's SPD.0 -
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Retr0gamer wrote: »Well I'm not that good yet. I keep getting hit by fireballs when I try that, haven't got the timing down yet. Can you do it with a super as well?
I didn't know you couldn't combo into it, I'll have practice my focus attacks instead.
Is there a way to counter Zangiefs piledriver and the super/ultra versions from just when you get up off the ground. Seems like a really good tactic to jump forward and unleash a ultra just as the player gets up off the ground?
No idea if you can do it with the super, sorry.
And yeah, backdashing on wakeup should work to avoid that.
edit:Gummy Panda wrote: »Anyone recommend a beginners character for a really bad player?
I seriously suck at doing dragon punches and most supers/ultras
Blanka's a good character to pick up the basics with, and he's a charge character so the DP thing shouldn't be a problem.0 -
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So then whats the best way of using a spinning piledriver against experienced players? Right from a focus counter or attack since you can't combo it anymore? I think I'll be using him a lot more since he's a great character. Just have to renew my live subscription first. can't seem to do a SPD from standing, i always end up jumping.
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Yes but I'm holding out for the PC version.
Not easy but Akuma has countered me with the weak shoryuken before, that was on the hardest difficulty though, I was like "WTF just happened?"wondering this also. Its happened a few times online, I'll be against zangief, get caught in a corner and then he'll do is piledriver and I can't block it, is there any easy way out of it?
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Yes but I'm holding out for the PC version.Cunny-Funt wrote: »
yeah don't even have a clue how they managed to pull that ultra off :eek:
Quick question... why is akumas super and ultra so crap. I finally unlocked him and don't know if I'll be keeping him as my main player now. I like being able to fall back on the supers and ultras if needed, but his are absolutely rubbish and easily avoided. I mean I was playing against a guy yesterday, who was pretty good as Akuma, but I was able to block his ultra by just jumping back and doing a LK when he got near me. He must of tried it in every round of every match I played against him and he didn't land it once.
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Hell yes, getting it for the PS3Quick question... why is akumas super and ultra so crap.
His Raging Demons are so difficult to land because the ultra is both, the most powerful and, the coolest.
I really haven't played much of the game but I managed to land has ultra in a ranked match against Zangief. I was sucking so badly my opponent was comfortable enough with breaking out The Red Cyclone's 'lumber across the screen and grab move so I caught him during that.
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Yes but I'm holding out for the PC version.we really need a fighting forum. Trying to talk about everything in just a few threads is a pain. Maybe if we flood the games forum with fighting game threads they'll see the need, lol.You got any voice coms sorted yet Leimrod?
I've got a bluetooth headset for my PS3, but it won't help if you are on vent My PC is on the other side of the room, and my mic is standalone and wired so its not attached to my headphones. Do you have a bluetooth headset for the PS3?
I could try working something out but it would require shouting across the room at my mic, lol.0 -
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Yes but I'm holding out for the PC version.
The raging demons only work against newbies who doesn't know what to do and tries to block an incoming Akuma. Most Akumas I fought against will try to use it once, I jump away and punish him and he won't do it again in the same match.His Raging Demons are so difficult to land because the ultra is both, the most powerful and, the coolest.
At least you can do his ultra. I am learning vega at the moment and I find his super/ultra motion impossible to do on the ps3 controller even in training mode so I never use them. Maybe things will change when I get my hands on a madcatz pad.0 -
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I'm finding characters with that motion for their ultras and supers very difficult to master. I had an awful time trying to beat the single player with guile, had to reduce it to the easiest setting to beat my rival and seth since I could pull off an ultra maybe 1 in 20 times in training let alone under pressure.
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Yes but I'm holding out for the PC version.we really need a fighting forum. Trying to talk about everything in just a few threads is a pain.
yes we seriously need a ****ing fighting game forum but I dunno who it is that decides it but they're ignoring all reason for it. I mean what if we made poll? Would that work? Last thread the guy said nothing will be done till the forum is re-done then after that he just ignored us.
A lot of important stuff about the game as been said in other pages on this thread and yet someone getting into it now isnt going to wanna ****ing trawl through the whole thing to read it all.
Plus theres so much stuff I wanna talk about but can't with out flooding the game section.
Also it would provide a matching making place where we could chat together about matches we had. BAH!
Maybe if the original thread wasnt started by someone with the name 'cunny-funt' or was started by someone with a higher post count it wouldn't be dismissed as much
Anyway, akumas demon.
General way to land it is to trick people into trying to hit you, you can do a demon flip over them and cancel it into a raging demon.
You can teleport into the demon but I find this a lot harder to do then in 3s.
Focas attack into demon is possible but you have to be really fast. And lastly punishing ultras is another way but you have to be really fast AND make sure not to hit them with the jabs.
wake up demon is another way but that worked better in 3s. But if a guy is constantly attacking as your getting up you can get them this way.
Then theres more advanced stuff like Kara=demons but thats way over my level. There may be other ways of landing the demon in sfiv that I've not seen yet, there probably is.
Other then that. Twice I've had some guy do a demon while I'm on the ground, so I'd be tapping up and yet he still landed it on me. leading me to think theres a way to time it just perfectly to get them on wake up, but when I tried in training mode I couldn't get it going so maybe it was just delay/lag.
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But akumas so powerful that your better off landing a combo on a guy most times instead of trying a demon.
Give me a shout on PSN and I'll show you my akuma as a lot of people on SF4 are playing him wrong (flowchart akuma) and so many people are all "monkey see monkey" do and thus most akumas are copying each other and making a total mockery of how the character is meant to be played. Akumas not supposed to run away like a pussy he's for getting in and utterly destroying you lol.
3s akuma was so much more badass than SFIV akuma though.
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