Who is/was the best free kick taker

titan18

redout wrote: »

Shouldnt be much of an argument as Becks has scored about 60 in his pro career and the other two probably couldnt muster more than 20 between them.

Ronaldinho has scored a lot, over 50 I'd say.Pirlo, I'd say around 20

besty

Ronald Koeman

titan18 wrote: »

Ronaldinho has scored a lot, over 50 I'd say.Pirlo, I'd say around 20

I wonder how many Juninho of Lyon has scored in that case...

Edit: According to Wikipedia, he's scored 42 direct free kicks for Lyon as of 1/2/2009

titan18

Nakamura

besty wrote: »

I wonder how many Juninho of Lyon has scored in that case...

42 for Lyon, according to Wiki.So with his other clubs and with Brazil, I'm saying over 70

LuckyLloyd

Chilavert

Raskolnikov wrote: »

Poor game. Milan are dreadful.

wat

This game has been fantastic!!

redout

Chilavert

titan18 wrote: »

Ronaldinho has scored a lot, over 50 I'd say.Pirlo, I'd say around 20

Not a chance there brother. Absolutely nowhere near 50 for that chap.

Inzaghi is still class aint that right lads.

LuckyLloyd

Chilavert

redout wrote: »

Not a chance there brother. Absolutely nowhere near 50 for that chap.

I'd love to see some actual stats on any of the players discussed. Tis all speculation without them...

titan18

Nakamura

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I'd love to see some actual stats on any of the players discussed. Tis all speculation without them...

So would I, I've got this stuff off Wiki and YahooAnswers.Juninho at 42 for Lyon, Becham has 54, and Ronaldinho has 55.But I can guarantee that Ronaldinho and Pirlo have more than 20 between them.

leninbenjamin

Chilavert

titan18 wrote: »

So would I, I've got this stuff off Wiki and YahooAnswers.Juninho at 42 for Lyon, Becham has 54, and Ronaldinho has 55.But I can guarantee that Ronaldinho and Pirlo have more than 20 between them.

but Ronny only has about 130 career goals... would nearly 1 out of every 2 goals he scores be from a freekick?

Beckham would demolish them all in terms of assists from set pieces though.

titan18

Nakamura

leninbenjamin wrote: »

but Ronny only has about 130 career goals... would nearly 1 out of every 2 goals he scores be from a freekick?

Beckham would demolish them all in terms of assists from set pieces though.

And Beckham has even less career goals.Its hard to find the goals from free kicks so there's no point speculating on the assists

redout

Chilavert

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I'd love to see some actual stats on any of the players discussed. Tis all speculation without them...

Becks aint speculation. Was a discussion on here before Xmas and we worked out that he had at least over 50 for Man Utd, Real Madrid and LA Galaxy. I know Ronaldinho has nowhere near 50 as he is not even prolific !Where did Ronaldinho score all these free-kicks as I can tell you now he didnt score a huge amount for Barca.

redout

Chilavert

titan18 wrote: »

And Beckham has even less career goals.Its hard to find the goals from free kicks so there's no point speculating on the assists

What you are saying is bollox. As the other poster above said no way has nearly 1 in 2 of all his goals been free-kicks absolutely not.

titan18

Nakamura

redout wrote: »

What you are saying is bollox. As the other poster above said no way has nearly 1 in 2 of all his goals been free-kicks absolutely not.

What, its true that Beckham has less goals than Ronaldinho, and its true that Ronaldinho and Pirlo have more than 20 goals between them, which was your first stupid statement.

You're saying that Ronaldinho can't have nearly 1 in 2 goals scored being free kicks and Beckham has more than 1 in 2.

redout

Chilavert

Beckham according to stats has 114 goals and we know he has more than 50 free-kicks. Where does your Ronaldinho 50 odd free kicks come from ? Your talking bollox, go prove it ? There is a video on youtube of Beckham scoring 50 something different free kicks for Utd, Madrid, Galaxy and England claiming to be all his free kicks up to about about a year ago. Now since then we know he scored another for AC Milan about two weeks ago and most likely a couple for the Galaxy in the past year no doubt. I watch Barca every bloody week and have done so the past 3-4 years and your talking through your hoop brother because he probably averaged about 3-4 free kicks a season and no more. He is not even prolific at then ffs and has an over-hyped rep like Roberto Carlos did after scoring some crackers.

eZe^

Nakamura

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lLk-2_r-wE

Laughable to call Ronaldinho not prolific at free kicks. Impeccable technique.



Not sure how reliable wiki answers is, but it has Ronaldinho on 55 free kicks scored, and Beckham on 54 after the one against Genoa. And considering Ronnie is 5 years younger, I think we can rubbish the argument that Ronaldinho was anywhere NEAR as overhyped as Roberto fcuking Carlos from free kicks.

titan18

Nakamura

redout wrote: »

Beckham according to stats has 114 goals and we know he has more than 50 free-kicks. Where does your Ronaldinho 50 odd free kicks come from ? Your talking bollox, go prove it ? There is a video on youtube of Beckham scoring 50 something different free kicks for Utd, Madrid, Galaxy and England claiming to be all his free kicks up to about about a year ago. Now since then we know he scored another for AC Milan about two weeks ago and most likely a couple for the Galaxy in the past year no doubt. I watch Barca every bloody week and have done so the past 3-4 years and your talking through your hoop brother because he probably averaged about 3-4 free kicks a season and no more. He is not even prolific at then ffs and has an over-hyped rep like Roberto Carlos did after scoring some crackers.

Where did you get that Pirlo and Ronaldinho havent scored 20 free kicks between them.Stupidest comment I've ever read(may not be true).

kinaldo

Zico

In fairness R. Carlos scored over 70 goals for Madrid alone, and I'd say over half of them were free kicks. He must be an underrated free kick taker because everyone thinks he's overrated, only because he used to blast the wall so often and try the outrageous, while English commentators would only ever mention the goal against France. I've followed Madrid closely since before his time there and I'm sure he averaged at least 4 a season, which ain't bad!

eagle eye

Mihajlovic

I was reading another thread and this started to take over the discussion.

Rather than keep it going there I thought it better to start a new thread.

We all know how classy a free kick taker David Beckham is.

I remember Ronaldinho being very prolific at Barcelona from them.

Zizou was another excellent free kick taker although he didn't take them too often as he had Del Piero or Beckham with him for a lot of his club career.

Del Piero was also a magnificent free kick specialist but I don't think he has been as good as he was for quite some time.

You also have Pirlo at Milan who has been their no.1 free kick expert for many years now.

Juninho Pernambucano is considered by many as the greatest free kick taker of them all.

Mijailovic is another who must be considered.

For me personally Maradona is no. 1.

Whats your thoughts?

I could start a poll but we'll see who should be in it first.

eagle eye

Mihajlovic

I couldn't fiind any stats for this argument, but I started a thread on it.

titan18

Nakamura

Well, if we're going all time, Mihalhjovic and Ronald Koeman are the two I'd say are the best.Platini would be worth a shout too

Charlie

Nakamura

D-Becks from around 98-2002 was untouchable, seemed like every time he stepped up to the plate he put it away. Perhaps what was more impressive was the range of kick he had, keepers were always left guessing as to which way he would go, whether he would smack it or bend it etc.

However, if there was one man who over the length of his career could top D-Becks, it would be Siniša Mihajlović . He literally perfected the art of free kick taking, and won games single handily with them.

Anyone who says Roberto Carlos should be shot immediately.

Neil3030

How could you not mention Dinis!!

Bounty Hunter

Chilavert

id probably be most worried about Beckham lining up to hit a free kick just outside the box against a side i supported.

this thread needs this imo (esp for Charlie)

eZe^

Nakamura

Mihajlović was the best free kicker ever to live. Ever. Fact. Thread over.

Kinetic^

Take your pick from Juninho, Ronaldinho, Irwin-inho (:pac:), Becks, stoichkov, Del Piero, Nakamura.....probably more.....

eZe^

Nakamura

No seriously guys, Mihajlović. You can ACTUALLY lock the thread now.

Latchy

Maradona

Peter Lorimer ( leeds utd) had the record as the fastest and strongest free kicker of his generation . Would not have liked to have being in a wall when he was shooting

JPA

Ronald Koeman

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

id probably be most worried about Beckham lining up to hit a free kick just outside the box against a side i supported.

this thread needs this imo (esp for Charlie)

That goal was out of this world but he seemed to think he could do it every time after that, and I think everyone was expecting a repeat for years after.
But no it was a one off.

eagle eye

Mihajlovic

Ok so lets say we put up a list for the pole. Who else would people like to see in it?

Beckham
Chilavert
Hagi
Hassler
Juninho Pernambucano
Ronald Koeman
Le Tissier
Lorimer
Maradona
Mihajlovic
Nakamura
Platini
Ronaldinho
Stoichkov
Van Hooijdonk
Zico
Zidane

Latchy

Maradona

Kevin Sheedy ( Sheeds )

Xavi6

Jose Luis Chilavert :cool:

eagle eye

Mihajlovic

latchyco wrote: »

Kevin Sheedy ( Sheeds )

Well you can start another one for best Irish, I don't think so for this pole but you just reminded me the best Irish free taker who would be Ian Harte imo.

kinaldo

Zico

Ian Woan.

eagle eye

Mihajlovic

Xavi6 wrote: »

Jose Luis Chilavert :cool:

Good candidate.

ziggy

Ronald Koeman

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raven136

Nakamura

i thought i heard on sky sports over the past 2 seasons that Ronaldo was the best free kick taker ever.I remember them seeing Del Piero score one and saying he must have been watching Ronaldo.If it was said by Andy Gray or Richard Keys it must be true:D

kinaldo

Zico

I think Maradona is my favourite. There's something about his free kicks that the keeper never seems to move. And some crazy angles.

Recoba should get a mention.

I would say David Beckham and Juninho are the most prolific though.

Sinisa Mijhailovich was just unbelievable.

R.Carlos is the most underrated free kick taker ever. Not the best mind, but damn effective. And some of the most spectacular. One of his free kicks in his first season, 96/97 at the Bernabeu I think at home to Seville, I just remember thinking I'd never seen anything quite like it. Amazing what he could do.

ullu

Zidane

I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Zico.

ziggy

Ronald Koeman

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eagle eye

Mihajlovic

Hassler certainly deserves a mention.

Lol @ Ronaldo being considered that good at free kicks, he would be similar to Roberto Carlos in my books and thats way overrated at free kicks.

Latchy

Maradona

eagle eye wrote: »

Well you can start another one for best Irish, I don't think so for this pole but you just reminded me the best Irish free taker who would be Ian Harte imo.

Sheed's could put them round the wall ,very simular to Harte to .

Mr. Presentable

Del Piero is the finest currently, and probably one of the top three ever.

eagle eye

Mihajlovic

kinaldo wrote: »

I think Maradona is my favourite. There's something about his free kicks that the keeper never seems to move. And some crazy angles.

Recoba should get a mention.

I would say David Beckham and Juninho are the most prolific though.

Sinisa Mijhailovich was just unbelievable.

R.Carlos is the most underrated free kick taker ever. Not the best mind, but damn effective. And some of the most spectacular. One of his free kicks in his first season, 96/97 at the Bernabeu I think at home to Seville, I just remember thinking I'd never seen anything quite like it. Amazing what he could do.

I'd have to agree about Maradona, I put him in although nobody mentioned him. I have to admit I forgot about him when I started the thread. He would be the best I've ever seen and Stoichkov would be very high up as well.

ziggy

Ronald Koeman

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eagle eye

Mihajlovic

latchyco wrote: »

Sheed's could put them round the wall ,very simular to Harte to .

He didn't score that many though and his consistency was poor.

eagle eye

Mihajlovic

ziggy wrote: »

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Another good one.

kinaldo

Zico

Let's not forget Hagi!

Xavi6

Matthew Le Tissier

Latchy

Maradona

eagle eye wrote: »

He didn't score that many though and his consistency was poor.

Aye, ah that goal against Engurland .......memories

eagle eye

Mihajlovic

Right I think we have enough, the poll should be up shortly.

PHB

I think Juninho is the best currently

kinaldo

Zico

It should be decided by cold stats, not a poll.

Otherwise I'll vote for Ian Woan.