Dublin Marathon 2009 Thread - NO NUMBER SWAPS HERE

TFBubendorfer

toomuchdetail wrote: »

Thanks Amadeus for been straight , you held back on the sugar coating which was good. Probably made me more stubborn though
I think there is a lot of guys who unless looking for sub 3:30 are only getting 15/18miles now.
Might suck it and see til Sunday and await further feedback but I am 51/49 in leaving it for 2010.

You're quite right of course.
Every year there are loads of muppets who ask how to train for the marathon with less than 4 weeks to go, and how good an idea it is to run it woefully under-prepared.

Woddle

SUB 2'50"
tunguska 2'34 balls on chopping block

SUB 3'00"
Lex Luther 2:58.59
Abhainn (2:59:59 will do for now)
TFBubendorfer (2:59:59 will do nicely for me, too)
aero2k (2:59:59 for me)
SUB 3'11" BOSTON QUAL
christeb (very optimistic this early on...) 3:10:59 (Peckham Pacer)
MCOS 3'10'59" Feic it may as well go for it

SUB 3'15"
Killerz 3'14'59"
Ciaran15 3'13'00''

SUB 3'21" BOSTON QUAL
AndrewDhuey (join me, anyone? I BQed last April for next year; this would be for 2011).
figs 3:20:00 - always the optimist!
Earlyevening 3:15

SUB 3'30"
MrCreosote 3:29:59
Plodder 3:29:59.5
Potsy11 3:26:00
ULstudent 3:25 or there abouts
WhitestBoyAlive Finally plunging
Bobby04 3:29:59

SUB 3'45"
Woddle 3:36
ManFromAtlantis 3:39
Izoard 3:44
nutzzz123 3:44:59
Eliwallach (with the help of HM)
Louthandproud (this is roughly where McMillian puts me)
Dundalk
Master of Nothing (training going very well, think i can edge out MacMillan guesstimate time of 3:47)
kennyb3 3.40 will do nicely please
Raging_Hull 3:44:59
Roadpounder 3.35

SUB 4'00"
osnola ivax 3:59:59 (amadeus allstars)
RacoonQueen - as close as possible to 3:45 (Peckhams Pacers)
menoscemo 3:59:30
nomadic (for now , maybe 3.45)
hawkwing 3:59:59
Oisin11178 3:59:59 (maybe lower)
jrar (out loud time) 3:54:59 - dreamland time - 3:44:59
Sharktale 3:53:59
actwithoutwords officially 3:59:59, but would love to get close to 3:45
Krusty_Clown - pacer - 3:59:59 - If you see me go past you, then you're not SUB 4'00" any more.
How Strange 3.58.57 According to my 10m finish time on mcmillan
macinalli 3.59 will do very nicely
Scampwolf 3:55 On a Wing and a Pacer

SUB 4'30"
Hardy Eustace 3:59:59 - changed to a more realistic 4:15 very, very, very, very good day with wind behind me, 4:30 will be very happy with
Sub430 (what's in a name?) Also amadeus allstars
Rainbow Kirby (amadeus allstars - 4:30 is my inner child goal, 4:45 is probably more realistic)
Munster_Gal (Amadeus All Stars)
Spaceylou 4:29:59 or below will make me happy - actually just finishing will make me happy but I need a target!
IronTractorBoy 4:29:59
Blueskye (maybe a bit ambitious)
poppy08 (or nearest offer)
Chez-moi hopefully sub 4:10
Gerard65 4:20 (10min/ml)

SUB 5'00"
Racheljev - all on me ownio
Bally8 (just want to finish but 4:59:59 would be nice)
Oryx just wants to finish


Decided to change my predicted time from sub 3'30 to sub 3'37, which would be a 1 min PB which if I'm being honest I would bite your arm off for.
Can't wait, Decided I'm going to concentrate on pick up runs from now till race day starting today with a 10 miler, first 2 miles at 8'15 pace, then 8'00, then 7'45, 7'30 and 7'15. I'm sick of struggling at the end of a marathon so I'm trying sth different. Any thoughts or other suggested sessions that may help to counteract the drop in pace for the last few miles of race day?

sideswipe

Quote:
Originally Posted by toomuchdetail
Thanks Amadeus for been straight , you held back on the sugar coating which was good. Probably made me more stubborn though
I think there is a lot of guys who unless looking for sub 3:30 are only getting 15/18miles now.
Might suck it and see til Sunday and await further feedback but I am 51/49 in leaving it for 2010.

You're quite right of course.
Every year there are loads of muppets who ask how to train for the marathon with less than 4 weeks to go, and how good an idea it is to run it woefully under-prepared.

Here's some muppets deciding to RUN

How Strange

SUB 2'50"
[/COLOR][/B]tunguska 2'34 balls on chopping block [/I]

SUB 3'00"
Lex Luther 2:58.59
Abhainn (2:59:59 will do for now)
TFBubendorfer (2:59:59 will do nicely for me, too)
aero2k (2:59:59 for me)
SUB 3'11" BOSTON QUAL
christeb (very optimistic this early on...) 3:10:59 (Peckham Pacer)
MCOS 3'10'59" Feic it may as well go for it

SUB 3'15"
Killerz 3'14'59"
Ciaran15 3'13'00''

SUB 3'21" BOSTON QUAL
AndrewDhuey (join me, anyone? I BQed last April for next year; this would be for 2011).
figs 3:20:00 - always the optimist!
Earlyevening 3:15

SUB 3'30"
MrCreosote 3:29:59
Plodder 3:29:59.5
Potsy11 3:26:00
ULstudent 3:25 or there abouts
WhitestBoyAlive Finally plunging
Bobby04 3:29:59

SUB 3'45"
Woddle 3:36
ManFromAtlantis 3:39
Izoard 3:44
nutzzz123 3:44:59
Eliwallach (with the help of HM)
Louthandproud (this is roughly where McMillian puts me)
Dundalk
Master of Nothing (training going very well, think i can edge out MacMillan guesstimate time of 3:47)
kennyb3 3.40 will do nicely please
Raging_Hull 3:44:59
Roadpounder 3.35

SUB 4'00"
osnola ivax 3:59:59 (amadeus allstars)
RacoonQueen - as close as possible to 3:45 (Peckhams Pacers)
menoscemo 3:59:30
nomadic (for now , maybe 3.45)
hawkwing 3:59:59
Oisin11178 3:59:59 (maybe lower)
jrar (out loud time) 3:54:59 - dreamland time - 3:44:59
Sharktale 3:53:59
actwithoutwords officially 3:59:59, but would love to get close to 3:45
Krusty_Clown - pacer - 3:59:59 - If you see me go past you, then you're not SUB 4'00" any more.
How Strange 3.58.57 According to my 10m finish time on mcmillan
macinalli 3.59 will do very nicely
Scampwolf 3:55 On a Wing and a Pacer

SUB 4'30"
Hardy Eustace 3:59:59 - changed to a more realistic 4:15 very, very, very, very good day with wind behind me, 4:30 will be very happy with
Sub430 (what's in a name?) Also amadeus allstars
Rainbow Kirby (amadeus allstars - 4:30 is my inner child goal, 4:45 is probably more realistic)
Munster_Gal (Amadeus All Stars)
Spaceylou 4:29:59 or below will make me happy - actually just finishing will make me happy but I need a target!
IronTractorBoy 4:29:59
Blueskye (maybe a bit ambitious)
poppy08 (or nearest offer)
Chez-moi hopefully sub 4:10
Gerard65 4:20 (10min/ml)

SUB 5'00"
Racheljev - all on me ownio
Bally8 (just want to finish but 4:59:59 would be nice)
Oryx just wants to finish

I'm bowing out for Dublin. I didn't do as much training in Sept as I should've have and while I could have recouped that over these final three weeks and I am confident of my fitness, I've been sick all this week with a chest infection and I know I'll be wiped next week so it would be madness to do the marathon.

I'll consider a spring marathon.

I'll definitely be there on the day cheering my OH and any identifiable boardsies on.

MCOS

SUB 2'50"
[/color][/b]tunguska 2'34 balls on chopping block [/i]

SUB 3'00"
Lex Luther 2:58.59
Abhainn (2:59:59 will do for now)
TFBubendorfer (2:59:59 will do nicely for me, too)
aero2k (2:59:59 for me)
SUB 3'11" BOSTON QUAL
christeb (very optimistic this early on...) 3:10:59 (Peckham Pacer)
MCOS 3'10'59" Feic it may as well go for it

SUB 3'15"
Killerz 3'14'59"
Ciaran15 3'13'00''

SUB 3'21" BOSTON QUAL
AndrewDhuey (join me, anyone? I BQed last April for next year; this would be for 2011).
figs 3:20:00 - always the optimist!
Earlyevening 3:15

SUB 3'30"
MrCreosote 3:29:59
Plodder 3:29:59.5
Potsy11 3:26:00
ULstudent 3:25 or there abouts
WhitestBoyAlive Finally plunging
Bobby04 3:29:59

SUB 3'45"
Woddle 3:36
ManFromAtlantis 3:39
Izoard 3:44
nutzzz123 3:44:59
Eliwallach (with the help of HM)
Louthandproud (this is roughly where McMillian puts me)
Dundalk
Master of Nothing (training going very well, think i can edge out MacMillan guesstimate time of 3:47)
kennyb3 3.40 will do nicely please
Raging_Hull 3:44:59
Roadpounder 3.35

SUB 4'00"
osnola ivax 3:59:59 (amadeus allstars)
RacoonQueen - as close as possible to 3:45 (Peckhams Pacers)
menoscemo 3:59:30
nomadic (for now , maybe 3.45)
hawkwing 3:59:59
Oisin11178 3:59:59 (maybe lower)
jrar (out loud time) 3:54:59 - dreamland time - 3:44:59
Sharktale 3:53:59
actwithoutwords officially 3:59:59, but would love to get close to 3:45
Krusty_Clown - pacer - 3:59:59 - If you see me go past you, then you're not SUB 4'00" any more.
How Strange 3.58.57 According to my 10m finish time on mcmillan
macinalli 3.59 will do very nicely
Scampwolf 3:55 On a Wing and a Pacer

SUB 4'30"
Hardy Eustace 3:59:59 - changed to a more realistic 4:15 very, very, very, very good day with wind behind me, 4:30 will be very happy with
Sub430 (what's in a name?) Also amadeus allstars
Rainbow Kirby (amadeus allstars - 4:30 is my inner child goal, 4:45 is probably more realistic)
Munster_Gal (Amadeus All Stars)
Spaceylou 4:29:59 or below will make me happy - actually just finishing will make me happy but I need a target!
IronTractorBoy 4:29:59
Blueskye (maybe a bit ambitious)
poppy08 (or nearest offer)
Chez-moi hopefully sub 4:10
Gerard65 4:20 (10min/ml)

SUB 5'00"
Racheljev - all on me ownio
Bally8 (just want to finish but 4:59:59 would be nice)
Oryx just wants to finish


Also out... Injured and zero long runs done. If injury clear and I'm feeling energetic I might trot along with KC --amadeus-- and the 3:59:59 gang but most unlikely.... easy jogging and swimming for me for a while

--amadeus--

SUB 2'50"
tunguska 2'34 balls on chopping block

SUB 3'00"
Lex Luther 2:58.59
Abhainn (2:59:59 will do for now)
TFBubendorfer (2:59:59 will do nicely for me, too)
aero2k (2:59:59 for me)
SUB 3'11" BOSTON QUAL
christeb (very optimistic this early on...) 3:10:59 (Peckham Pacer)
MCOS 3'10'59" Feic it may as well go for it

SUB 3'15"
Killerz 3'14'59"
Ciaran15 3'13'00''

SUB 3'21" BOSTON QUAL
AndrewDhuey (join me, anyone? I BQed last April for next year; this would be for 2011).
figs 3:20:00 - always the optimist!
Earlyevening 3:15

SUB 3'30"
MrCreosote 3:29:59
Plodder 3:29:59.5
Potsy11 3:26:00
ULstudent 3:25 or there abouts
WhitestBoyAlive Finally plunging
Bobby04 3:29:59

SUB 3'45"
Woddle 3:36
ManFromAtlantis 3:39
Izoard 3:44
nutzzz123 3:44:59
Eliwallach (with the help of HM)
Louthandproud (this is roughly where McMillian puts me)
Dundalk
Master of Nothing (training going very well, think i can edge out MacMillan guesstimate time of 3:47)
kennyb3 3.40 will do nicely please
Raging_Hull 3:44:59
Roadpounder 3.35

SUB 4'00"
osnola ivax 3:59:59 (amadeus allstars)
RacoonQueen - as close as possible to 3:45 (Peckhams Pacers)
menoscemo 3:59:30
nomadic (for now , maybe 3.45)
hawkwing 3:59:59
Oisin11178 3:59:59 (maybe lower)
jrar (out loud time) 3:54:59 - dreamland time - 3:44:59
Sharktale 3:53:59
actwithoutwords officially 3:59:59, but would love to get close to 3:45
Krusty_Clown - pacer - 3:59:59 - If you see me go past you, then you're not SUB 4'00" any more.
How Strange 3.58.57 According to my 10m finish time on mcmillan
macinalli 3.59 will do very nicely
Scampwolf 3:55 On a Wing and a Pacer
Amadeus - Pacer - 3:59:xx

SUB 4'30"
Hardy Eustace 3:59:59 - changed to a more realistic 4:15 very, very, very, very good day with wind behind me, 4:30 will be very happy with
Sub430 (what's in a name?) Also amadeus allstars
Rainbow Kirby (amadeus allstars - 4:30 is my inner child goal, 4:45 is probably more realistic)
Munster_Gal (Amadeus All Stars)
Spaceylou 4:29:59 or below will make me happy - actually just finishing will make me happy but I need a target!
IronTractorBoy 4:29:59
Blueskye (maybe a bit ambitious)
poppy08 (or nearest offer)
Chez-moi hopefully sub 4:10
Gerard65 4:20 (10min/ml)

SUB 5'00"
Racheljev - all on me ownio
Bally8 (just want to finish but 4:59:59 would be nice)
Oryx just wants to finish

(I got lost in the updates so adding myself back in)

MCOS - Sorry to hear that but it sounds like the right decision. I was going to suggest tagging along with teh 4 hr group for the craic when you first mentioned that you were carrying a knock. It'll be a giggle and we can have pints afterwards

toomuchdetail

appreciate the feedback , still unsure ,will wait til after the half in Galway Sat .
Up to about from May to mid Sept been averaging 35-40k weekly but this was all for tri's and adventure races(also avge 30k on bike). 13-15miles would not bother me too much at moment .
Not too concerned about enjoying it as a I know I would , would also expect a 3:50-4hr (in an ideal world)..which doesn't exist
Concerned on long term damage , been unable to run/walk/cycle for months,Knee damage (i am 108kg!!) and as I am currently constantly tired getting in only 1-2 18m in a short term while not a large jump from where I am its a significant drain on limited resources as is.

--amadeus--

I've just checked the Conrad Hotel website - the one that the pace group have a room to shower in after the race and the one I have been glibly suggesting as a good spot for a few post race beers.

Having mooched through the site though it looks a bit posh. I'm not that bothered either way but maybe someone has an alternative?

[edit] I've looked through and they do have a pub



so maybe it's not as bad as I thought. You can stop panicking now...

Aimman

SUB 2'50"
tunguska 2'34 balls on chopping block

SUB 3'00"
Lex Luther 2:58.59
Abhainn (2:59:59 will do for now)
TFBubendorfer (2:59:59 will do nicely for me, too)
aero2k (2:59:59 for me)
SUB 3'11" BOSTON QUAL
christeb (very optimistic this early on...) 3:10:59 (Peckham Pacer)
MCOS 3'10'59" Feic it may as well go for it

SUB 3'15"
Killerz 3'14'59"
Ciaran15 3'13'00''

SUB 3'21" BOSTON QUAL
AndrewDhuey (join me, anyone? I BQed last April for next year; this would be for 2011).
figs 3:20:00 - always the optimist!
Earlyevening 3:15

SUB 3'30"
MrCreosote 3:29:59
Plodder 3:29:59.5
Potsy11 3:26:00
ULstudent 3:25 or there abouts
WhitestBoyAlive Finally plunging
Bobby04 3:29:59

SUB 3'45"
Woddle 3:36
ManFromAtlantis 3:39
Izoard 3:44
nutzzz123 3:44:59
Eliwallach (with the help of HM)
Louthandproud (this is roughly where McMillian puts me)
Dundalk
Master of Nothing (training going very well, think i can edge out MacMillan guesstimate time of 3:47)
kennyb3 3.40 will do nicely please
Raging_Hull 3:44:59
Roadpounder 3.35
Aimman - 3:44 - After Donegal full and Tarmonbarry half within 4 weeks before it, I better do good :rolleyes:

SUB 4'00"
osnola ivax 3:59:59 (amadeus allstars)
RacoonQueen - as close as possible to 3:45 (Peckhams Pacers)
menoscemo 3:59:30
nomadic (for now , maybe 3.45)
hawkwing 3:59:59
Oisin11178 3:59:59 (maybe lower)
jrar (out loud time) 3:54:59 - dreamland time - 3:44:59
Sharktale 3:53:59
actwithoutwords officially 3:59:59, but would love to get close to 3:45
Krusty_Clown - pacer - 3:59:59 - If you see me go past you, then you're not SUB 4'00" any more.
How Strange 3.58.57 According to my 10m finish time on mcmillan
macinalli 3.59 will do very nicely
Scampwolf 3:55 On a Wing and a Pacer
Amadeus - Pacer - 3:59:xx


SUB 4'30"
Hardy Eustace 3:59:59 - changed to a more realistic 4:15 very, very, very, very good day with wind behind me, 4:30 will be very happy with
Sub430 (what's in a name?) Also amadeus allstars
Rainbow Kirby (amadeus allstars - 4:30 is my inner child goal, 4:45 is probably more realistic)
Munster_Gal (Amadeus All Stars)
Spaceylou 4:29:59 or below will make me happy - actually just finishing will make me happy but I need a target!
IronTractorBoy 4:29:59
Blueskye (maybe a bit ambitious)
poppy08 (or nearest offer)
Chez-moi hopefully sub 4:10
Gerard65 4:20 (10min/ml)

SUB 5'00"
Racheljev - all on me ownio
Bally8 (just want to finish but 4:59:59 would be nice)
Oryx just wants to finish

WhitestBoyAlive

SUB 2'50"
tunguska 2'34 balls on chopping block

SUB 3'00"
Lex Luther 2:58.59
Abhainn (2:59:59 will do for now)
TFBubendorfer (2:59:59 will do nicely for me, too)
aero2k (2:59:59 for me)

SUB 3'11" BOSTON QUAL
christeb (very optimistic this early on...) 3:10:59 (Peckham Pacer)

SUB 3'15"
Killerz 3'14'59"
Ciaran15 3'13'00''

SUB 3'21" BOSTON QUAL
AndrewDhuey (join me, anyone? I BQed last April for next year; this would be for 2011).
figs 3:20:00 - always the optimist!
Earlyevening 3:15

SUB 3'30"
MrCreosote 3:29:59
Plodder 3:29:59.5
Potsy11 3:26:00
ULstudent 3:25 or there abouts
Bobby04 3:29:59

SUB 3'45"
WhitestBoyAlive 3.35
Roadpounder 3.35
Woddle 3:36
ManFromAtlantis 3:39
Izoard 3:44
nutzzz123 3:44:59
Eliwallach (with the help of HM)
Louthandproud (this is roughly where McMillian puts me)
Dundalk
kennyb3 3.40 will do nicely please
Raging_Hull 3:44:59
Aimman - 3:44 - - After Donegal full and Tarmonbarry half within 4 weeks before it, I better do good
Master of Nothing 3:47 - (training going very well, think i can edge out MacMillan guesstimate time of 3:47)

SUB 4'00"
osnola ivax 3:59:59 (amadeus allstars)
RacoonQueen - as close as possible to 3:45 (Peckhams Pacers)
menoscemo 3:59:30
nomadic (for now , maybe 3.45)
hawkwing 3:59:59
Oisin11178 3:59:59 (maybe lower)
jrar (out loud time) 3:54:59 - dreamland time - 3:44:59
Sharktale 3:53:59
actwithoutwords officially 3:59:59, but would love to get close to 3:45
Krusty_Clown - pacer - 3:59:59 - If you see me go past you, then you're not SUB 4'00" any more.
macinalli 3.59 will do very nicely
Scampwolf 3:55 On a Wing and a Pacer
Amadeus - Pacer - 3:59:xx


SUB 4'30"
Hardy Eustace 3:59:59 - changed to a more realistic 4:15 very, very, very, very good day with wind behind me, 4:30 will be very happy with
Sub430 (what's in a name?) Also amadeus allstars
Rainbow Kirby (amadeus allstars - 4:30 is my inner child goal, 4:45 is probably more realistic)
Munster_Gal (Amadeus All Stars)
Spaceylou 4:29:59 or below will make me happy - actually just finishing will make me happy but I need a target!
IronTractorBoy 4:29:59
Blueskye (maybe a bit ambitious)
poppy08 (or nearest offer)
Chez-moi hopefully sub 4:10
Gerard65 4:20 (10min/ml)

SUB 5'00"
Racheljev
Bally8 (just want to finish but 4:59:59 would be nice)
Oryx just wants to finish

Roadpounder

WhitestBoyAlive wrote: »

SUB 2'50"
tunguska 2'34 balls on chopping block

SUB 3'00"
Lex Luther 2:58.59
Abhainn (2:59:59 will do for now)
TFBubendorfer (2:59:59 will do nicely for me, too)
aero2k (2:59:59 for me)

SUB 3'11" BOSTON QUAL
christeb (very optimistic this early on...) 3:10:59 (Peckham Pacer)

SUB 3'15"
Killerz 3'14'59"
Ciaran15 3'13'00''

SUB 3'21" BOSTON QUAL
AndrewDhuey (join me, anyone? I BQed last April for next year; this would be for 2011).
figs 3:20:00 - always the optimist!
Earlyevening 3:15

SUB 3'30"
MrCreosote 3:29:59
Plodder 3:29:59.5
Potsy11 3:26:00
ULstudent 3:25 or there abouts
Bobby04 3:29:59

SUB 3'45"
WhitestBoyAlive 3.35
Roadpounder 3.35
Woddle 3:36
ManFromAtlantis 3:39
Izoard 3:44
nutzzz123 3:44:59
Eliwallach (with the help of HM)
Louthandproud (this is roughly where McMillian puts me)
Dundalk
kennyb3 3.40 will do nicely please
Raging_Hull 3:44:59
Roadpounder 3.35.00
Aimman - 3:44 - - After Donegal full and Tarmonbarry half within 4 weeks before it, I better do good
Master of Nothing 3:47 - (training going very well, think i can edge out MacMillan guesstimate time of 3:47)

SUB 4'00"
osnola ivax 3:59:59 (amadeus allstars)
RacoonQueen - as close as possible to 3:45 (Peckhams Pacers)
menoscemo 3:59:30
nomadic (for now , maybe 3.45)
hawkwing 3:59:59
Oisin11178 3:59:59 (maybe lower)
jrar (out loud time) 3:54:59 - dreamland time - 3:44:59
Sharktale 3:53:59
actwithoutwords officially 3:59:59, but would love to get close to 3:45
Krusty_Clown - pacer - 3:59:59 - If you see me go past you, then you're not SUB 4'00" any more.
macinalli 3.59 will do very nicely
Scampwolf 3:55 On a Wing and a Pacer
Amadeus - Pacer - 3:59:xx


SUB 4'30"
Hardy Eustace 3:59:59 - changed to a more realistic 4:15 very, very, very, very good day with wind behind me, 4:30 will be very happy with
Sub430 (what's in a name?) Also amadeus allstars
Rainbow Kirby (amadeus allstars - 4:30 is my inner child goal, 4:45 is probably more realistic)
Munster_Gal (Amadeus All Stars)
Spaceylou 4:29:59 or below will make me happy - actually just finishing will make me happy but I need a target!
IronTractorBoy 4:29:59
Blueskye (maybe a bit ambitious)
poppy08 (or nearest offer)
Chez-moi hopefully sub 4:10
Gerard65 4:20 (10min/ml)

SUB 5'00"
Racheljev
Bally8 (just want to finish but 4:59:59 would be nice)
Oryx just wants to finish

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Jenfer

WhitestBoyAlive wrote: »

SUB 2'50"
tunguska 2'34 balls on chopping block

SUB 3'00"
Lex Luther 2:58.59
Abhainn (2:59:59 will do for now)
TFBubendorfer (2:59:59 will do nicely for me, too)
aero2k (2:59:59 for me)

SUB 3'11" BOSTON QUAL
christeb (very optimistic this early on...) 3:10:59 (Peckham Pacer)

SUB 3'15"
Killerz 3'14'59"
Ciaran15 3'13'00''

SUB 3'21" BOSTON QUAL
AndrewDhuey (join me, anyone? I BQed last April for next year; this would be for 2011).
figs 3:20:00 - always the optimist!
Earlyevening 3:15

SUB 3'30"
MrCreosote 3:29:59
Plodder 3:29:59.5
Potsy11 3:26:00
ULstudent 3:25 or there abouts
Bobby04 3:29:59

SUB 3'45"
WhitestBoyAlive 3.35
Roadpounder 3.35
Woddle 3:36
ManFromAtlantis 3:39
Izoard 3:44
nutzzz123 3:44:59
Eliwallach (with the help of HM)
Louthandproud (this is roughly where McMillian puts me)
Dundalk
kennyb3 3.40 will do nicely please
Raging_Hull 3:44:59
Aimman - 3:44 - - After Donegal full and Tarmonbarry half within 4 weeks before it, I better do good
Master of Nothing 3:47 - (training going very well, think i can edge out MacMillan guesstimate time of 3:47)

SUB 4'00"
osnola ivax 3:59:59 (amadeus allstars)
RacoonQueen - as close as possible to 3:45 (Peckhams Pacers)
menoscemo 3:59:30
nomadic (for now , maybe 3.45)
hawkwing 3:59:59
Oisin11178 3:59:59 (maybe lower)
jrar (out loud time) 3:54:59 - dreamland time - 3:44:59
Sharktale 3:53:59
actwithoutwords officially 3:59:59, but would love to get close to 3:45
Krusty_Clown - pacer - 3:59:59 - If you see me go past you, then you're not SUB 4'00" any more.
macinalli 3.59 will do very nicely
Scampwolf 3:55 On a Wing and a Pacer
Amadeus - Pacer - 3:59:xx


SUB 4'30"
Hardy Eustace 3:59:59 - changed to a more realistic 4:15 very, very, very, very good day with wind behind me, 4:30 will be very happy with
Sub430 (what's in a name?) Also amadeus allstars
Rainbow Kirby (amadeus allstars - 4:30 is my inner child goal, 4:45 is probably more realistic)
Munster_Gal (Amadeus All Stars)
Spaceylou 4:29:59 or below will make me happy - actually just finishing will make me happy but I need a target!
IronTractorBoy 4:29:59
Blueskye (maybe a bit ambitious)
poppy08 (or nearest offer)
Chez-moi hopefully sub 4:10
Gerard65 4:20 (10min/ml)
Jenfer - a sub 4.15 would be a great

SUB 5'00"
Racheljev
Bally8 (just want to finish but 4:59:59 would be nice)
Oryx just wants to finish

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village runner

Decided to change my predicted time from sub 3'30 to sub 3'37, which would be a 1 min PB which if I'm being honest I would bite your arm off for.
Can't wait, Decided I'm going to concentrate on pick up runs from now till race day starting today with a 10 miler, first 2 miles at 8'15 pace, then 8'00, then 7'45, 7'30 and 7'15. I'm sick of struggling at the end of a marathon so I'm trying sth different. Any thoughts or other suggested sessions that may help to counteract the drop in pace for the last few miles of race day?[/quote]

Whats your recovery like after berlin ? A 10 miler like that wont do anything for stamina. Only my opinion.
Try a 20 miler this week with 10 miles at 9 min miles and 10 miles at 8 min a mile. They get me negative splits anyway. If you have to use the loo go before you start............

hawkwing

Just back from my second and last 22m LSR in the park and must say it was tough,but it's done now :)Have been used to running in calm conditions for the last few weeks and a bit of wind takes it out of me.Best of luck to the many doing similar LSR's tomorrow as the weather forecast is not good :
Tonight
Very windy tonight with rain becoming more widespread. Strong westerly winds will gust 80 to 100 km/h in exposed parts of the north and west. Lowest temperatures of 10 C to 12 C.
Tomorrow
Very windy tomorrow morning with some severe gusts in the North. Rain will clear Southwards to sunny spells and scattered showers. Strong and gusty west to northwest winds will moderate in the afternoon

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Lets hope it improves again for the big day.

Raging_Hull

hawkwing wrote: »

Tomorrow
Very windy tomorrow morning with some severe gusts in the North. Rain will clear Southwards to sunny spells and scattered showers. Strong and gusty west to northwest winds will moderate in the afternoon

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GULP!

goofygirl

No sympathy here. I have to do my LSR (20 miles) tomorrow here in Canada where the forecast is minus 4 and snowing....

demon83

Am in training for my first Marathon the DCM, longest run so far has been 15 but plan on doing 20 tomorrow, how long after it would I need to recover for next long run?

Woddle

village runner wrote: »

Whats your recovery like after berlin ? A 10 miler like that wont do anything for stamina. Only my opinion.
Try a 20 miler this week with 10 miles at 9 min miles and 10 miles at 8 min a mile. They get me negative splits anyway. If you have to use the loo go before you start............

Cheers VR, the 10 miler is to get me mentally ready for Tuesday 15-18 when I'll try the same tactic again but with longer reps, the reps shouldn't be too taxing bar the last but I'm hoping that with such a short amount of time before Dublin that it may help my mental approach, it's not really a physical change I'm looking for.

Regarding going toilet before hand I always do, I go once the night before and then probably 2/3 times that morning before leaving the house :eek: but I've made a few changes to the diet the night before and it appeared to work for the half.

Thanks for the input and although the target is 3'36 I might still be trying to keep an eye out for where you are.

Killerz

I'll probably regret saying this, but bring on the windy conditions! Reading Dean Karnazes' book Ultra Marathon Man, which quite honestly is inspirational, I feel I can face anything .

LSR tomorrow (22 miles) in advance of DCM.

Diggy78

Can I ask an honest question. Is anyone else getting sick of running? I hate saying that on this thread but it's just drivin me mad now. Was supposed to do 20 miles this mornin and packed it in after 4 miles. Rain and wind were horrible but I just felt brutal anyway and think I may have sickened myself a bit with the running over the last few months. Has anyone else gone through this when training for a marathon? Cheers and sorry if I inadvertantly bum a few people out!

Sub430

Hope this doesn't sound preachy but I'm going for my first run in three weeks since injury. It could be a walk/run but looking forward to just being able to do it. When I was injury free I did have similar feelings to you at some stages but hopefully back on track now and just thankful for that.

Taper from now on in so you're nearly there

Sara83

Sorry to hear that Diggy78, but maybe try to add some variation to your runing route to keep things interesting, Ive hound that helped me stave off boredom. If you always run in one place then find somewhere ad different as possible, maybe go to mapmyrun and work out a new route.

Do you run with mujsic? if not maybe try it or if you do try changing your music mix or if possibley listen to a radio program.

I run with a friend so even if I do get bored I wouldn't dare stop early (she says the same!).

keep it up, we're almost there! Just over 3 weeks!

Sara

Wilbury

Diggy78 wrote: »

Can I ask an honest question. Is anyone else getting sick of running? I hate saying that on this thread but it's just drivin me mad now. Was supposed to do 20 miles this mornin and packed it in after 4 miles. Rain and wind were horrible but I just felt brutal anyway and think I may have sickened myself a bit with the running over the last few months. Has anyone else gone through this when training for a marathon? Cheers and sorry if I inadvertantly bum a few people out!

Been there, done that....
With some of my training, (which is'nt too scientific!) I am just on automatic pilot and just clock up miles.
Other times (rarely enough), I feel as though I'm flying and want to chase a P.B.
The worst ones are where you just have to hang in and grind it out, but when you do it you feel so glad you didn't quit.
With the long runs you get a combination of emotions and it is a matter of not letting the negative ones control you, so you need to devise a few tricks to keep you going.
When I feel like quitting I try to think to myself how I'd feel in two hours time, knowing that I could have had my run completed instead of sitting around scratching my ar$e.
You are not going to stop after 4 miles on the 26th are you? Had you kept going, the chances are you would have gradually felt better (assuming you are not injured), and you would have completed your session.Have another go at it tomorrow if you feel up to it.
It will get easier from here on... Good luck with the rest of your training

ultraman1

think of the DCM as your last day of skool,then your on your holliers:D

Dundalk

I agree that sometimes it gets hard but you just gotta keep plugging away. I was in a similar situation today around 6 miles where i was running up a long hill with the wind in my face. I felt like just stopping and walking up the hill but i kept at it and eventually got to the top, another half a mile or so i turned a corner and and the wind wasn't facing me any more, I got into a rhythm, felt good and done my 20 miles.

I think its more mental then anything

entropi

Another good thing to do is what i would do on tired days but know i have to train...use some music, set up a playlist and once it plays a certain song, go on autopilot until the end of the run:D It has worked a treat for me in the 6 months i've been running and i'll be doing the same in the DCM;)

Aimman

Killerz wrote: »

I'll probably regret saying this, but bring on the windy conditions! Reading Dean Karnazes' book Ultra Marathon Man, which quite honestly is inspirational, I feel I can face anything .

LSR tomorrow (22 miles) in advance of DCM.

I read that book too, the guy is an animal. Still cant understand how he ate a whole pizza, cheesecake and a large coffee on the go as part of a 130 mile run.

Still, the guy inspires me, and leaves me wondering how far I can can go too. But thats another story for 2010....

Lets worry about DCM first. Had to buy a new pair of runners today and need to break them in before the big run, I bought two pairs a while back, and alternated them for training and races, but they are as flat as a pancake now, no bounce in them, can feel it on the spine. Dont think they'll hold out for another 3 weeks. Have an 18M do to on Monday as my last LSR, but not sure if its a good idea in the new kit, despite doing a few miles tomorrow with the Rathfarnham 5K in the middle of it.

Krusty_Clown

DCM Registration closing @5 pm on Monday. You have been warned!

RacoonQueen

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

DCM Registration closing @5 pm on Monday. You have been warned!

You mean, you can't just turn up on the day. :eek:

Aimman

I have the perfect warm up routine before the race starts on the day. If we try now, we could get enought practice before the race starts. Think all the major muscle areas get a work out in this one. lol :-) Keep watching it

http://www.oprah.com/article/oprahshow/20090908-tows-flash-mob-dance

I wonder how many of us will have this song on their ipod for the tough times in the race