Dubstep

Zascar · 19-02-2009 4:28pm #1

So I'm hearing loads about this lately, that its the new thing etc etc - but any I have heard just does not do it for me... Perhaps I'm listening to the wrong stuff so anyone who is into it can you recommend a decent set of good dubstep? I want to at least give it a chance....

Ta

Jev/N · 19-02-2009 7:56pm

Benga - Diary of an Afrowarrior

Skream - Skream!

Look for sets by Benga, Mala, Skream as well, they're all kinda mainstream dubstep

KevinH · 19-02-2009 9:30pm

The Widdler
The last two tracks are by Nero and Babylon Systems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqd513yo6IQ

Scubadevils · 19-02-2009 10:48pm

I really like some dubstep. Some examples of tracks/albums I've picked up...

2562 - Morvern

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_dMoHo6I6Y

2562 - Moog Dub

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5toXOdZJ_h4

Both taken from the album 'Aerial'

Headhunter - Prototype (love this track)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CoBwM7iE48

Headhunter - Technopolis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnT53tbh8eo

Both taken from 'Nomad'

Scuba - Suck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-Ly0M-B9Fw

Scuba - The Upside

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGIbPdZF-4E

Taken from the amazing album 'A Mutual Antipathy'

And finally which I also posted in new releases, the new album from Harmonic 313, couple of tracks...

Harmonic 313 - Dirtbox

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzmawqmPX-E

Harmonic 313 - Quadrant 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeB8CMD3RgA

Both from the excellent 'When Machines Exceed Human Intelligence'

Thats a few anyway that I have loved over the last while. Great music for the car! And I'm sure clubs too, if I ever get round to them again...

Scubadevils · 19-02-2009 10:51pm

Oh and some mixes on the Hot Flush website... the man behind Scuba is also behind this label...

http://www.hotflushrecordings.com/download.html

Scubadevils · 19-02-2009 10:57pm

And even more mixes and performances here

Some really good stuff there actually across numerous genres.

jtsuited · 19-02-2009 11:18pm

I feel pretty meh about dubstep. Can see it's charm but I get bored of it quite easily.

Executive Steve · 20-02-2009 2:52pm

well as a long time jungle and dnb head it's about the only music at that sort of tempo that doesn't bore the pants off me

it's like all the good bits of house and detroit techno without the mind-numbing tedium, plus the tunes actually have basslines!

win win situation really!

Eric Cartman · 21-02-2009 12:50am

caspa & rusko , most of the Fabriclive.37 album

jimi_t · 23-02-2009 3:51am

jtsuited wrote: »

I feel pretty meh about dubstep. Can see it's charm but I get bored of it quite easily.

True that. Skream was the most interesting for me, stuff like Bawl Fwd and Midnight Request Line were just stomping tunes, regardless of genre. Now it seems that everyone who produced ambient/downtempo/leftfield is throwing an LFO on their basslines and jumping on the bandwagon.

Also, what's the deal with the obligatory sci-fi vocal sample in dubstep? I was working the Meerka (sp?) bar at the picnic and I swear to god over the course of the saturday I heard most of the dialogue from Fear and Loathing with added wobble :rolleyes:

Dragan · 23-02-2009 11:15am

Four 10 Minute Dubstep mixed from my mate, Dubthc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRYwNBhIl94

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FMNnQhkCUs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID42wHK164Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvMpCAZfBAw

The fourth is my own personal favourite.

List of Random people to check out : Benga, Coki, Mala, Loefah, Caspa, Rusko, Skream, Ramadanman, Unitz, Kromestar, Kode9, D1, Cotti, Babylon System, Noah D, Martyn, Intalex

Dragan · 23-02-2009 11:18am

jimi_t wrote: »

Also, what's the deal with the obligatory sci-fi vocal sample in dubstep? I was working the Meerka (sp?) bar at the picnic and I swear to god over the course of the saturday I heard most of the dialogue from Fear and Loathing with added wobble :rolleyes:

That goes back. In the early days, as it really started around Bristol and those boys are "England till they die", they started working in various samples from English gangster and social drama films and it all went from there.

Executive Steve · 23-02-2009 12:02pm

Dragan wrote: »

That goes back. In the early days, as it really started around Bristol and those boys are "England till they die", they started working in various samples from English gangster and social drama films and it all went from there.

It started in Croydon, actually... As for the samples, Dubstep is basically another step in the lineage of Hip Hop, Hardcore, Jungle, DnB, Garage - it's sample based music at it's core - hence the use of samples; it's certainly not as if all of a sudden they started to put samples in because they're "England till they die" (wtf?)

But yeah, there's the boring wobbly student night dubstep and there's the quality gear...

Pangaea,
Spherix,
Synkro,
2562,
Martyn, (released some tasty dnb on Dublin's Bassbin label)
Silkie,
Mala,
Quest,
Loefah,
Breakage, (another long time dnb head who came up the ranks thanks to Bassbin)
TRG,
Joker,
Starkey,
Scuba,
Vaccine,

Dragan · 23-02-2009 12:10pm

[cm]tyranny wrote: »

It started in Croydon, actually... As for the samples, Dubstep is basically another step in the lineage of Hip Hop, Hardcore, Jungle, DnB, Garage - it's sample based music at it's core - hence the use of samples; it's certainly not as if all of a sudden they started to put samples in because they're "England till they die" (wtf?)

*grins* This is why i rarely talk about music on the internet.:D

I meant that they English based Dubstep folk tend to like promoting other parts of English culture in their music. You won't really find samples and dialogue from American films in the work of Caspa and Rusko for example.

That's about it. I wasn't talking about WHY there were using samples in general, just the very specific type of samples mentioned.

Executive Steve · 23-02-2009 12:32pm

Dragan wrote: »

*grins* This is why i rarely talk about music on the internet.:D

I meant that they English based Dubstep folk tend to like promoting other parts of English culture in their music. You won't really find samples and dialogue from American films in the work of Caspa and Rusko for example.

That's about it. I wasn't talking about WHY there were using samples in general, just the very specific type of samples mentioned.

That would certainly explain all the Reggae samples then

:pac:

But you have a point to a cetain degree - the whole idea behind sample based music is that you take something from outside a genre that HASN'T been pillaged already and used by someone else and you rework it to fit with what you have...

I can't really comment on Caspa and Rusko mind you because i'm not particularly familiar with their work...

Dragan · 23-02-2009 12:57pm

[cm]tyranny wrote: »

That would certainly explain all the Reggae samples then

:pac:

Actually, this is something that comes up a LOT but Reggae really was accepted by the English as a form of music and it found a great and very comfortable home there!!

Mostly though, people just like Reggae, or think they should, because it's Reggae! Well, i have found.

But you have a point to a cetain degree - the whole idea behind sample based music is that you take something from outside a genre that HASN'T been pillaged already and used by someone else and you rework it to fit with what you have...

I can't really comment on Caspa and Rusko mind you because i'm not particularly familiar with their work...

Completely agree with you on the drive behind sample based music alright...it's part of the reason why i like it so much.

Caspa and Rusko are decent, but then again i have a very certain type of Dubstep that i really like and they match up to it.

Executive Steve · 23-02-2009 2:14pm

Dragan wrote: »

Actually, this is something that comes up a LOT but Reggae really was accepted by the English as a form of music and it found a great and very comfortable home there!!

Mostly though, people just like Reggae, or think they should, because it's Reggae! Well, i have found.

Completely agree with you on the drive behind sample based music alright...it's part of the reason why i like it so much.

Caspa and Rusko are decent, but then again i have a very certain type of Dubstep that i really like and they match up to it.

Well agree 100% on the reggae thing obviously - people forget how crucial the infrastructure of the reggae subculture was to the development of UK dance music...

Put it this way - as soon as acid house blew up in 88 and people started to want to make and release their own uk dance music they would have had to deal with teh only cheap and reliable experts in pressing up limited runs of well mastered vinyl in the UK (by and large these were nearly 100% reggae mastering and cutting houses) and if they wanted to play the on air they were basically beholden to the Reggae pirate station culture!

Hence why UK dance music is essentially always based around sub bass, soundsystems, mc's, limited press vinyl records and pirate radio; from uk digital dancehall to hardcore to jungle to garage to dubstep the essential mechanisms of delivering music have been essentially the same...

liked that last caspa thing on digital soundboy, much of his output is a bit too "skinny jeans neon hoody" for me though...

Dragan · 23-02-2009 2:36pm

[cm]tyranny wrote: »

Well agree 100% on the reggae thing obviously - people forget how crucial the infrastructure of the reggae subculture was to the development of UK dance music...

Put it this way - as soon as acid house blew up in 88 and people started to want to make and release their own uk dance music they would have had to deal with teh only cheap and reliable experts in pressing up limited runs of well mastered vinyl in the UK (by and large these were nearly 100% reggae mastering and cutting houses) and if they wanted to play the on air they were basically beholden to the Reggae pirate station culture!

Hence why UK dance music is essentially always based around sub bass, soundsystems, mc's, limited press vinyl records and pirate radio; from uk digital dancehall to hardcore to jungle to garage to dubstep the essential mechanisms of delivering music have been essentially the same...

liked that last caspa thing on digital soundboy, much of his output is a bit too "skinny jeans neon hoody" for me though...

Yeah, certain underground scenes ( that is to say, most of em! ) are definitely beholden to the Raggae traditions alright, even if it doesn't directly influence the music.

As for Caspa, this is one of my favourite tracks of his.....not his normal tack, and not what most people would see as Dubstep but **** it many, a sunny morning, a nice stroll and a spliff and this is perfect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mikpJZH8PwA

christroy · 24-02-2009 4:23pm

the Twisted Pepper on fridays is usually a pretty good place for Dubstep and DnB. I would recommend it. the likes of Benga, 2562 and RSD have played there. Skream was meant to play there last friday, but he canceled due to his best mate committing suicide or something. Hopefully he will organize to play again.

Executive Steve · 24-02-2009 9:25pm

christroy wrote: »

the Twisted Pepper on fridays is usually a pretty good place for Dubstep and DnB. I would recommend it. the likes of Benga, 2562 and RSD have played there. Skream was meant to play there last friday, but he canceled due to his best mate committing suicide or something. Hopefully he will organize to play again.

yeah - we (REACH) run a night in there on the fridays once a month (we brought benga and 2562 over) and we share the friday nights with the likes of kaboogie!, wobble, assquake and 174 who all do more or less similar stuff; fridays in the twisted pepper are basically the place to go if you like your beats broken and bass rumbling

also, if you're curious about dubstep you could do worse than check out DISTANCE (chestplate, planet mu, UK) down in kennedy's on the 28th, support from conan and myself...

there's a few decent irish labels and producers as well, and there's a nice forum over at www.irishdubstep.com

zega · 01-03-2009 4:58pm

Im a DNB head at the core,but im quite a fan of dubstep aswell,people should check out the essential mixes from bbc radio 1 done by skream! and rusko they are great introduction and will give you a feel for what the the whole genre is about.Can be downloaded here:
http://www.newmixes.com/rusko-essential_mix-sat-12-13-2008.html

http://www.newmixes.com/skream_-_essential_mix-sat-06-17-2007.html

jimmychin · 01-03-2009 5:55pm

wrote:

Hence why UK dance music is essentially always based around sub bass, soundsystems, mc's, limited press vinyl records and pirate radio; from uk digital dancehall to hardcore to jungle to garage to dubstep the essential mechanisms of delivering music have been essentially the same...

think that should read "hence why UK dance music is essentially always based around underground black music..."

its dem riddims, dem bass, and the urban culture that forces them to underground pirates. please dont berate me for saying this, its only my opinion

but yeah dubstep has a fresh sound, thats the great thing about these evolving genres; when you hear something that doesn't sound like anything before it.

saw benga at sibin last year where i thought he was heavy (even if the spin backs were tedious) - was a little less impressed with him at the twisted pepper but maybe thats the level of my attention span.

Code · 06-03-2009 10:02pm

Felixdhc wrote: »

I really like some dubstep. Some examples of tracks/albums I've picked up...

2562 - Morvern

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_dMoHo6I6Y

2562 - Moog Dub

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5toXOdZJ_h4

Both taken from the album 'Aerial'

Headhunter - Prototype (love this track)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CoBwM7iE48

Headhunter - Technopolis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnT53tbh8eo

Both taken from 'Nomad'

Scuba - Suck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-Ly0M-B9Fw

Scuba - The Upside

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGIbPdZF-4E

Taken from the amazing album 'A Mutual Antipathy'

And finally which I also posted in new releases, the new album from Harmonic 313, couple of tracks...

Harmonic 313 - Dirtbox

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzmawqmPX-E

Harmonic 313 - Quadrant 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeB8CMD3RgA

Both from the excellent 'When Machines Exceed Human Intelligence'

Thats a few anyway that I have loved over the last while. Great music for the car! And I'm sure clubs too, if I ever get round to them again...

this is the kinda dubstep sound I'm digging aswell

also, most of the stuff Tyranny listed :

" Pangaea,
Spherix,
Synkro,
2562,
Martyn,
Silkie,
Mala,
Quest,
Loefah,
Breakage,
TRG,
Joker,
Starkey,
Scuba,
Vaccine "

add :

Untold
Kontext
Ramadanman
South3rn
some of Boxcutter's stuff is dubsteppy too - either way, it's good.
Distance
Pinch
Peverelist
Appleblim
Shackleton
Geiom
Kode9
Intex Systems

and there's probably more, but there's plenty to check there anyway !

circadian · 07-03-2009 8:23pm

Grabbed myself some Geoim and Ramadanman last week, great stuff.

Also, check out Milanese, Boxcutter, Vex'd, Toasty and MRK 1.

g5fd6ow0hseima · 10-03-2009 2:37am

check out Boxcutter, he seems to be flying the flag for Irish dubstep. He's already released two albums but he's a tad different from mainstream dubstep. He's more electronically rooted than the likes of Benga and co.

He's on Planet Mu.