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'First Time Triathlete' - The Novice Thread
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Training is going well - an average of 2 swims, 2 runs, 1 core, 1 cycle & 2 karate classes a week.
Personally I'd ditch the karate. I used to do Silat but had to dump it as the knockes and bangs, while minor, impacted training.I am currently signed up for and ran my first 5k in the Galway 5k series on Tuesday night. This is happening for the next 5 weeks - 6 races in total. How should I slot these races in to my training schedule? I currently run loosely based on the FIRST program, 1 speed session and one tempo session.
I have been giving the LSD a miss of late. Should I try to add this race and keep doing my standard 2 per week or drop the tempo on for the 5 weeks and use the race as that? The reason I'm unsure what to do is that some of the tempo sessions can go for up to 9 miles - e.g. 1 mile warm up, 2 miles at ST (Short Tempo), 1 mile easy, 1 mile at ST, 1 mile easy, 2 miles at ST and 1 mile cool down. Any thoughts or comments on what to do with the running?
So basically you are only running hard? Bring back the long run, remember its not slow its easy. Ideally you'd be running three times minimum a week.I also know I need to get more miles on the bike and will be squeezing that in too from next week on. Cheers.
Thoughts or comments anyone? Cheers.
"Squeezing in the bike"???
While triathlon isn't about the bike you cannot run well off the bike regardless if you aren't bike fit. Get your ass in the saddle.0 -
Agree with Tunney on the Run and Bike bits
Disagree however with the suggestion to drop Karate. Perhaps tone it down from 2 classes per week to 1 while you are prepping for a Tri. I know that Karate is a way of life, more than just a hobby but a 'value' for some, indeed a family value for the likes of --amadeus--. Also if it is something that the heart enjoys or something you have put years of disciplined effort into, ditching it could be quite a sacrifice to participate in Triathlons.
'Squeezing' something in... what does that have to 'squeeze out' to fit?0 -
Agree with Tunney on the Run and Bike bits
Disagree however with the suggestion to drop Karate. Perhaps tone it down from 2 classes per week to 1 while you are prepping for a Tri. I know that Karate is a way of life, more than just a hobby but a 'value' for some, indeed a family value for the likes of --amadeus--. Also if it is something that the heart enjoys or something you have put years of disciplined effort into, ditching it could be quite a sacrifice to participate in Triathlons.
'Squeezing' something in... what does that have to 'squeeze out' to fit?
Never said to drop it - just said I dropped martial art I was doing as potential for injuries was huge.
As for "squeezing" things out - one of the biggest things I've learnt from triathlon is time effeciency, organisation and the importance of prepation. You don't have to give things up to fit more training in, just be more organised!0 -
Absolutely you have to get more organised the more you take on! Taking something new into your life does squeeze something out though, whether is be sitting in front of the TV or the 20 mins of snoozing in the morning.
pgibbo being an ex oarsman would get that! Well done on the 5k by the way 0 -
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While triathlon isn't about the bike you cannot run well off the bike regardless if you aren't bike fit. Get your ass in the saddle.
How much cycling should you be doing if training for an olympic tri? I try and do 3 rides a week, but sometimes only get two in. I try and get a ride of up to 60 - 80km in with the other rides a bit shorter depending on how late in the day I get onto the bike - cycling at night is not a safe option where I live. I've started also doing my second ride on a shorter route (30-35kms) but which has some big hills and really gets my legs hurting
I also swim three times a week and split my sessions into long slow swim of 2,500-3,000m and sessions of shorter distances at race pace (e.g. 100-200-300-200-100metres x twice or similar). I find if I don't do the three sessions a week my technique starts to suffer badly.
I also try and get three runs in a week - 10km x 2 and a 15km. However I've been neglecting the runs if a I have a time issue as I'm not too long out of my half marathon training and my run fitness is not too bad (for me anyway - 1.49.47 Wexford half marathon) so I prioritise cycling and swimming. I sometimes lump a cycle and a run together in a single session to use the tiem more efificiently.
Not looking for Tunney or MCOS times in my first Olympic, a sub 3hrs would be my goal.
It's easy to talk about managing time better, but when you have three kids under 5, a long commnute and a job that's going to get mental if the flu pandemic gets bad its pretty hard to do so.
Any advice / criticism appreciated.0 -
griffin100 wrote: »How much cycling should you be doing if training for an olympic tri? I try and do 3 rides a week, but sometimes only get two in. I try and get a ride of up to 60 - 80km in with the other rides a bit shorter depending on how late in the day I get onto the bike - cycling at night is not a safe option where I live. I've started also doing my second ride on a shorter route (30-35kms) but which has some big hills and really gets my legs hurting
I also swim three times a week and split my sessions into long slow swim of 2,500-3,000m and sessions of shorter distances at race pace (e.g. 100-200-300-200-100metres x twice or similar). I find if I don't do the three sessions a week my technique starts to suffer badly.
I also try and get three runs in a week - 10km x 2 and a 15km. However I've been neglecting the runs if a I have a time issue as I'm not too long out of my half marathon training and my run fitness is not too bad (for me anyway - 1.49.47 Wexford half marathon) so I prioritise cycling and swimming. I sometimes lump a cycle and a run together in a single session to use the tiem more efificiently.
It's easy to talk about managing time better, but when you have three kids under 5, a long commnute and a job that's going to get mental if the flu pandemic gets bad its pretty hard to do so.
Any advice / criticism appreciated.
Thats a perfect amount of cycling. Running too. You could even dial one of the runs down a little.
Respect for getting all that down and having three kids.0 -
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Agree with Tunney on the Run and Bike bits
'Squeezing' something in... what does that have to 'squeeze out' to fit?
Will be taking tunney's advice on board.
All I will be 'squeezing out' is my lazy ass from bed earlier in the mornings and the same lazy ass off the couch earlier at night.
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Will be taking tunney's advice on board.
All I will be 'squeezing out' is my lazy ass from bed earlier in the mornings and the same lazy ass off the couch earlier at night.
IMTalk podcast this week - bit about "First Reponse" and that your first reponse is normally the right one for you.
"Should I get up and swim?"
"Yes"
Then you start to make excuses
"But its cold"
Suggestion is to pre-empt the excuses to allow you listen to your first response. Interesting I thought.0 -
That's a loaded question.
You'll probably want a sprint triathlon (shortest there is)
check http://www.triathlonireland-server.com/Events/EventCalendar for triathlons around ireland.
Some triathlons use ActiveEurope to register. See what still has registration open http://www.activeeurope.com/Events/index.cfm?AC=EventAdvancedSearch&Searching=1&keyword=&sport=10&DateFrom=dd%2Fmm%2Fyyyy&DateTo=dd%2Fmm%2Fyyyy&Country=103&Region=0
As well as paying for registration, you'll need TI insurance (probably a 1 day license if you're only going to tackle 1 this year). More than 2-3 triathlons, you need a
You need to be able to swim 750m, run 5k and cycle 20km.
You'll need a bike & helmet, and a wetsuit if the swim is not in a pool, and runners(no, the ratty old pair in the back of the wardrobe won't do, unless you like getting injured).
Depending on level of fitness in each discipline, you should probably train at a minimum for 2 months to be able to do all those things comfortably.
As for losing some weight, running will take care of that for you
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griffin100 wrote: »How much cycling should you be doing if training for an olympic tri? I try and do 3 rides a week, but sometimes only get two in. I try and get a ride of up to 60 - 80km in with the other rides a bit shorter depending on how late in the day I get onto the bike - cycling at night is not a safe option where I live. I've started also doing my second ride on a shorter route (30-35kms) but which has some big hills and really gets my legs hurting
I also swim three times a week and split my sessions into long slow swim of 2,500-3,000m and sessions of shorter distances at race pace (e.g. 100-200-300-200-100metres x twice or similar). I find if I don't do the three sessions a week my technique starts to suffer badly.
I also try and get three runs in a week - 10km x 2 and a 15km. However I've been neglecting the runs if a I have a time issue as I'm not too long out of my half marathon training and my run fitness is not too bad (for me anyway - 1.49.47 Wexford half marathon) so I prioritise cycling and swimming. I sometimes lump a cycle and a run together in a single session to use the tiem more efificiently.
Not looking for Tunney or MCOS times in my first Olympic, a sub 3hrs would be my goal.
It's easy to talk about managing time better, but when you have three kids under 5, a long commnute and a job that's going to get mental if the flu pandemic gets bad its pretty hard to do so.
Any advice / criticism appreciated.
I've been reading this thread for a while now and this is the first time I've commented but I just had to say....
I'm impressed by how much you mange to fit in during the week, I have only done 3 sprints but have lined myself up for 2 olympic distances and 3 more sprints this year,
I have 3 kids (under 4) and all I can manage is- 3 morning swims (1hr) sessions about 2k each,
- 2 turbo (1.5 hr) sessions about 45k each (cannot cycle in dark)
- 3 running session, 1 hr of speed work (much needed), 10k run and 1 hr of brick intervals
- 1 long cycle 90k @ the weekend
and I thought I was doing well, and had an understanding family
And I think you will easily make sub 3 hrs if you are doing that amount of training or my goals are way out of whack.0 -
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griffin100 and ZZJ thats some going out of both of you!
Good luck to everyone doing Joey this weekend, lets hope the sun comes out
+1 on that! Particularly you first timers who've been working so hard the last while - well done for sticking with it and have a ball on the day! I'm jealous I'm not going to be there TBH
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