I challenge any Psychic on boards.ie

JimmyFloyd · 03-07-2009 1:28pm

This has been a very interesting thread, however, i haven't heard anything back from the offer(s) put forward.

It really shouldn't have rolled into a debate, it should've been a thread like this

1 - I challenge you.

2- I accept your challenge.

All other conversation is just side tracking.

I would be very interested in the outcome of this and if there are any psychics/mediums/whatever the term is i am more than happy to put myself forward as an impartial party and am willing to participate in a reading. I will be 100% truthful in whether the reading is accurate.

I find the lack of acceptance to the challenge very alarming.

03-07-2009 1:53pm

JimmyFloyd wrote: »

I find the lack of acceptance to the challenge very alarming.

Because if they psychics pass they will get "your" seal of approval ?

I am sure they have better things to do :rolleyes:

Oryx · 03-07-2009 2:01pm

JimmyFloyd wrote: »

I find the lack of acceptance to the challenge very alarming.

Why? Firstly, there are a very low percentage of psychics posting here, compared to 'regular people'. Secondly, the initial post smacked of a witch hunt (to me, anyway). And thirdly, an online forum is not the ideal place to do such a test. The post was a proposal, not a demand and people are free to ignore it without it being 'alarming'.

And anyway, someone has volunteered, to ntlbell.

JimmyFloyd · 03-07-2009 2:41pm

Oryx wrote: »

Why? Firstly, there are a very low percentage of psychics posting here, compared to 'regular people'. Secondly, the initial post smacked of a witch hunt (to me, anyway). And thirdly, an online forum is not the ideal place to do such a test. The post was a proposal, not a demand and people are free to ignore it without it being 'alarming'.

And anyway, someone has volunteered, to ntlbell.

I agree people are free to ignore it.

But if i was an expert in my field, and mine and others expertise was being questioned, i would want to stand up and prove that i am, in fact, an expert.

IMO, it's a challenge, and any talk of ideal places for tests and psychic to normal person ratio is irrelivant.

The ratio might be 50000:1, but that one should be able to prove their skills.

I am now participating in a debate i said was not needed earlier.

This is a simple challenge accepted or not accepted.

The challenge has been accepted, i can't wait to see how it turns out.

Oryx · 03-07-2009 3:27pm

JimmyFloyd wrote: »

But if i was an expert in my field, and mine and others expertise was being questioned, i would want to stand up and prove that i am, in fact, an expert.

Perhaps noone posting here at this time refers to themselves as an expert.

I am now participating in a debate i said was not needed earlier.

Welcome to boards.:p

JimmyFloyd · 03-07-2009 3:50pm

The use of the termexpert was used as a comparison only

mister gullible · 03-07-2009 8:47pm

I find the lack of acceptance to the challenge very alarming.[/quote]

Oh really... you must be very naive then. Why would a psychic respond to a genuine challenge when we all know that it's smoke and mirrors. Even the 'believers' must know deep down that it's only showbiz.

JimmyFloyd · 03-07-2009 9:13pm

mister gullible wrote: »

Oh really... you must be very naive then. Why would a psychic respond to a genuine challenge when we all know that it's smoke and mirrors. Even the 'believers' must know deep down that it's only showbiz.

I am not naive, you have failed to get the jist of my post.

mister gullible · 03-07-2009 10:49pm

JimmyFloyd wrote: »

I am not naive, you have failed to get the jist of my post.

JF, I was just being a bit sarky towards those that won't take up your challenge. Don't really mean you're naive. Apologies if you took it up that way.

04-07-2009 2:31am

mister gullible wrote: »

I find the lack of acceptance to the challenge very alarming.

Oh really... you must be very naive then. Why would a psychic respond to a genuine challenge when we all know that it's smoke and mirrors. Even the 'believers' must know deep down that it's only showbiz.[/quote]

How many psychics have you tested visited interviewed to come up with this smoke and mirrors theory ?

seimi · 04-07-2009 2:59am

I had the strangest feeling that no psychic would take the challenge. Not so much a feeling, more like a spirit channeled the information from a spirit type dimension of something.

Inter · 04-07-2009 10:47am

dvpower wrote: »

Now that's what I call a disclaimer - if you're skeptical about a psychic, then the reading won't work.

If you drive a diesel car, no point filling it with unleaded petrol

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philologos · 04-07-2009 10:52am

Inter wrote: »

If you drive a diesel car, no point filling it with unleaded petrol .

Ah come on, that isn't comparing like with like at all.

If one claims to have certain abilities surely they should be verifiable in some way?

Oryx · 04-07-2009 11:43am

Jakkass wrote: »

Ah come on, that isn't comparing like with like at all.

If one claims to have certain abilities surely they should be verifiable in some way?

To use a thread here as difinitive in deciding that psychics are all elusive fraudulent animals, is flawed. Anyone with a scientific brain should know this.

Anyone charging for their services should automatically have their abilities verified. Particularly those bloody phone lines which I think are insidious.

It is possible to see mediums work for free. Im sure if you search youll find a free psychic or two as well. Just cos they are holding their hands up here, does not mean they dont exist.

philologos · 04-07-2009 11:46am

Oryx wrote: »

To use a thread here as difinitive in deciding that psychics are all elusive fraudulent animals, is flawed. Anyone with a scientific brain should know this.

I don't consider all to be fradulent. I just do not believe that most if not all are capable of performing paranormal powers. I personally believe that there may be mediums or psychics but they are not anywhere near as common as people make them out to be. I do believe that there are such things as dark spirits, and other things which can affect how people behave. I've already mentioned that from what I have heard about ouija boards and their harm I do think there is something dark associated with them.

Oryx wrote: »

Anyone charging for their services should automatically have their abilities verified. Particularly those bloody phone lines which I think are insidious.

Totally agree.

Oryx wrote: »

It is possible to see mediums work for free. Im sure if you search youll find a free psychic or two as well. Just cos they are holding their hands up here, does not mean they dont exist.

I'm slightly dissapointed that more haven't taken the nuts to come forward on this thread. I mean they do exist on the Psychics and Mediums section right?

Oryx · 04-07-2009 11:56am

Jakkass wrote: »

I'm slightly dissapointed that more haven't taken the nuts to come forward on this thread. I mean they do exist on the Psychics and Mediums section right?

We agree more than we disagree, then.

There are far fewer people posting here as practicing mediums or psychics than you might think. Just look at the number of unanswered requests for readings. I moonlight as a medium, I know one other person on this board who is one of the best demonstrating mediums Ive ever seen. I know of one poster who does readings here, and maybe two others who do readings irl. Thats it.

mister gullible · 04-07-2009 8:01pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh really... you must be very naive then. Why would a psychic respond to a genuine challenge when we all know that it's smoke and mirrors. Even the 'believers' must know deep down that it's only showbiz.

How many psychics have you tested visited interviewed to come up with this smoke and mirrors theory ?[/quote]

c'mon .. it's bull, you don't need to test, visit or interview. Even Mr Gullible can see that it's nonsense, maybe entertaining nonsense for some but nonsense just the same.

getz · 04-07-2009 8:28pm

dlofnep wrote: »

Any Psychic on boards.ie - I challenge them to prove their claims to me, either in person or on the forum.

This is how it will work.

You will firstly state exactly what it is you can do, in what detail, and specify what information you require. I will then verify whether or not what you have said is valid information or simply, just subtle cold reading.

I doubt any psychics on here have the courage to actually back up their claims, but should you do - I am waiting to prove how much of a fraud you are.

i think you should change the word psychic,because it covers a big area, psychic-spiritual healing or psychic healing,the transmission of energy from or through a healer .may practice hand healing or absent healing,through prayer or meditation, so it must mean that if you have ever been to church to pray for a sick person ,you must believe in psychic healing ,in many ways i have had many unexplained experiences only yesterday when driving a high rise flat a flash came into my mind ,and i said to my wife,i would not like to live in those flats someone is going to die in a fire,last night there was a fire in the high rise flats[not the same one] and many died,you will say its just a coincidence,but it happens too many times to me to be just that,if i could predict by order i would win the loto

05-07-2009 6:04am

mister gullible wrote: »

c'mon .. it's bull, you don't need to test, visit or interview. Even Mr Gullible can see that it's nonsense, maybe entertaining nonsense for some but nonsense just the same.

question answered

mister gullible · 05-07-2009 2:14pm

Deleted User wrote: »

question answered

Well, glad you agree.:)

MrMojoRisin · 08-07-2009 8:03pm

mister gullible wrote: »

Why would a psychic respond to a genuine challenge when we all know that it's smoke and mirrors. Even the 'believers' must know deep down that it's only showbiz.

Of the small minority of people i know or who i have met who can demonstrate/have demonstrated psychic ability, i cant and couldnt see they had/have any connection wit showbusiness. One fella doesnt even own a TV and hardly has a bob to his name. Never charged anyone a cent

It's the 'celebrity psychics' that taint the reps of the proper ones who dont live in glitzy oppulance - like that annoying one Sally Morgan, Colin Fry, Tony Stockwell,John Edwards, and a few others. I have a bit of respect for Derek Acorah tho,even though he was a muppet on Most Haunted ('Sam? What was that,Sam??? Theres a man here,an old man'') and for Gordon Smith. Now, what ive never understood is why yer one Sharon Neill is at great pains to give herself the slogan 'Britain's only blind psychic/medium', like, what difference does that make if youre blind? That she can't cold read as well as she could (if she was that way inclined, like) if she had her full eyesight??

the_dark_side · 08-07-2009 8:10pm

OK... I have glanced through the first 2 pages of this garble... my question... has anyone yet taken the OP up on his challange? If not, then why go to the endless bother of writing reams of counter arguments that quite simply, no-one is going to bother reading

TaxiManMartin · 08-07-2009 8:59pm

Im dying to hear how ntlbell got on with the reading.
Do tell.

Inter · 09-07-2009 7:03pm

the_dark_side wrote: »

OK... I have glanced through the first 2 pages of this garble... my question... has anyone yet taken the OP up on his challange? If not, then why go to the endless bother of writing reams of counter arguments that quite simply, no-one is going to bother reading

That some have bothered is enough for those of us who have engaged in this discussion. Your participation is, after all, voluntary.

iamhunted · 09-07-2009 7:38pm

the_dark_side wrote: »

OK... I have glanced through the first 2 pages of this garble... my question... has anyone yet taken the OP up on his challange? If not, then why go to the endless bother of writing reams of counter arguments that quite simply, no-one is going to bother reading

since you havent been bothering reading then you might have missed the fact that NOT all people interested in the paranormal = psychic.

if yous *really* want the question answered, go see a psychic or something. or indeed do whats been asked already - dont demand attention and results, instead go out there and find them like the rest of us do.

GhostInTheRuins · 09-07-2009 7:59pm

iamhunted wrote: »

since you havent been bothering reading then you might have missed the fact that NOT all people interested in the paranormal = psychic.

if yous *really* want the question answered, go see a psychic or something. or indeed do whats been asked already - dont demand attention and results, instead go out there and find them like the rest of us do.

How many "psychics" do free readings? I would like to try it myself but there's no way would I give any of those chancers my money

pwd · 09-07-2009 8:02pm

Everyone's psychic.
Ever feel someone looking at you?
Ever look at someone and have them turn to look at you?
Psychic!

patrickthomas · 09-07-2009 8:20pm

I have spent a lifetime of research and study of the paranormal, supernatural and divination. Never have I found a shred of evidence to back up any of these peoples claims.

I am still amazed that people are still taken in by these fraudsters, and that is what they are save for the occasional deluded one that really believes in what they do, and does being deluded make it right? Not by a long shot!

One thing I have noticed about people who believe in this nonsense is the high proportion of people who for want of a better word are "flaky" i.e. Not the most stable of people in dealing with reality, and seem to turn to an unreal world as an alternative.

And just for the record, I studied this area as I initially felt that there was something in it and gradually over a period of several years eventually coming to the conclusion that all of it is fake.

It is amazing how people can believe in one-off chance happenings, I kick a football and "bend it like Beckham" it could happen, 10,000 to one chance, but it could, and meant nothing whatsoever, the monkey and a typewriter scenario.

Lately I have turned my attention to "alternative" or as they like it to be called nowadays "complimentary" medicine, and am discovering the same mentality within that, Homoeopathy has absolutely zero medical or scientific proof as well as being obviously nonsense yet the same type of people spend money on it.

iamhunted · 09-07-2009 8:30pm

GhostInTheRuins wrote: »

How many "psychics" do free readings? I would like to try it myself but there's no way would I give any of those chancers my money

ive no idea - have you asked many?

iamhunted · 09-07-2009 8:32pm

patrickthomas wrote: »

One thing I have noticed about people who believe in this nonsense is the high proportion of people who for want of a better word are "flaky" i.e. Not the most stable of people in dealing with reality, and seem to turn to an unreal world as an alternative.

so your lifetime of research tells us that anyone who believes in psychics is 'flakey' and not too good with dealing with reality?

Well Done. That takes stereotyping to a whole new level.

I challenge any Psychic on boards.ie

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