Stargate Universe [May Contain SPOILERS]

Gareth-W-A

Overheal wrote: »

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spellcheck.

Kiith

Is it a 2-hour special? It better be!!

Gareth-W-A

Kiith wrote: »

Is it a 2-hour special? It better be!!

Season starts with Air part 1 and 2 airing together. Can't wait!

senordingdong

Isn't Air actually a three parter?

J-blk

senordingdong wrote: »

Isn't Air actually a three parter?

Yes, but part 3 is next week .

User45701

Overheal wrote: »

YOU FUCXKING PADDIES ARE ALREADY WATCHING ITR?> WTF IFNHDSIKND)NG NDFJ)DB>:N UZNmbjlk. shybvISD;iSDNGKEBN Liu b imstillatworkits2pm

na you get it first - i was just saying to yourself and Briar

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm in miami and the tv is solidly booked for 9pm tonight on channel 70 syfy for to watch this
Can't wait !

not to be feekin posting da spoilers in here (create a new topic for parts 1 and 2 after you've seen it)

potcwe

Very disappointed with this no new ideas they stole the idea of finding someone though a video game from the movie The Last Starfighter
And the music is BSGish the show seems like the ship there on LOST.
Will watch to see if it gets better it can not get worse
Sky also cut a scene that was in the US airing

noodler

I liked it.

It was grittier, grittier is good.

A distinct lack of Tealc but otherwise a solid opening.

7 Thumbs up.

Overheal

potcwe wrote: »

Very disappointed with this no new ideas they stole the idea of finding someone though a video game from the movie The Last Starfighter
And the music is BSGish the show seems like the ship there on LOST.
Will watch to see if it gets better it can not get worse
Sky also cut a scene that was in the US airing

if its the scene im thinking of, then good for them. it felt out of place altogether both in the episode and in the franchise. I can get mah porn on elsewhere.

FutureGuy

I really enjoyed the opening shows. Very good indeed and the gf (who not a massive fan of sci-fi apart from BSG) hought it was good.

Spoilers:

So the ship seems to be on a predetermined course and will stop when something is needed. A new planet every week ala the best Star Trek. That is going to give the show an awful lot to play with.

What I find even more intruiging than exploring the macrocosm (the universe) is the microcosm of the Destiny herself. They have only seen a fraction of the ship and there could be parts that may stay closed for many seasons. There could be absolutely anything on board the ship! Some of the best parts of Lost were when there was when they were trying to find what was down the hatch and various other stations.

You can see alot of good sci-fi mixed together here (Stargate with a little Star Trek, BSG, Lost), and I like the shows grittiness.

Snowie

so the starting of atlanti wa all very some what safe, you know sheppered flys oneal to antartica where some one fires a drown at there helicopter....

Yadayada yada....

I thought the beginging of Sgu

Was pretty damm good...

Lots of people have mentioned oh its like startrek, maybe battel star galactica

who cares its entertainment and to be honest make stalantis look like a nice day out for a picnic...

Really enjoyed, it.....

oxygen_old

I watched part 1&2 last night. I have to say, very disappointing. I was looking forward to something inventive and fresh, rather than just a SG continuation, like all the SG and ST continuations. Got none of that however. If you compare it to BSG miniseries, and BSG episode 3(1) "33 minutes" it’s just in a lower division. I will watch a couple of more episodes, to see how it develops, but I have my doubts. Especially since the 3rd episode looks to be set on a desert like planet, which is a very lazy sci-fi tool.

Riskymove

"Stargate: Voyager" anyone?

Mr E

Just be glad its not a medieval village.

Mitch Connor

i don't like this 12 hour countdown idea.

I had read about it a while back and didn't like the idea of it then, still don't like it.

I can just see far too many eps ending with them just getting back in time.

JohnK

Since they're going for a darker series this time maybe the teams who go out wont always get back...

Kiith

It'll definitely be an Ensign Ricky scenario for most missions.

Sherifu

If they work out the route of the ship there's a possibility to catch up using the stargates if someone misses the window.

ixoy

Riskymove wrote: »

"Stargate: Voyager" anyone?

Meh move on - that name was floated months ago. Why not "Stargate: Lost in Space"...

User45701

Kiith wrote: »

It'll definitely be an Ensign Ricky scenario for most missions.

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i have to get one

don ramo

how is it like any show, it may seem simialr to other shows but what isnt nowadays, as long as they make it work in the story nobody will care if its like slider, star trek voyager, BSG, its noting like any of them,

maybe similar to sliders in the fact theres a time limit on them, but there not jumping to alternative realities, and they wont have to always leave the ship,

its like voyager cause there far from home, but they are moving further from home and have no control over the ship, and have no holodecks:D

its like BSG, wait it notin like BSG, there not the last of there civilisation and they dont have 50 ships with them,

theres simlarities but no solid duplication to be seen, this show could easily follow in SG-1 footsteps and have them explore a new world each week,

weve seen the pilot,and to be honest it hasnt really given any indication as to what the season holds, for now it just looks like survival, theres no bad guys chasing them,

NotWormBoy

don ramo wrote: »

theres no bad guys chasing them,

Yet.

Though I'm not sure there will be, I get the impression they want to break the mould a bit with this one.

Don't get the comparisons with BSG to be honest - Voyager, yes, Last Starfighter, yes, Star Trek TNG, yes... Not that these are bad things.

Kinda glad about the Senator. Never liked that actor.

Kiith

I think the Battlestar comparisons are just for the overall darker theme that its set in.

NotWormBoy wrote: »

Kinda glad about the Senator. Never liked that actor.

How can you not like Shooter McGavin? :P

Shooter - "I eat pieces of **** like you for breakfast."
Happy - "You eat pieces of **** for breakfast?"
Shooter - ".......No!"

deman

NotWormBoy wrote: »

Kinda glad about the Senator. Never liked that actor.

LOL! Me too. There was always something I never liked about him. But I don't know what it is. Maybe he looks too much like a cousin of mine who is a complete p***k. :pac:

noodler

NotWormBoy wrote: »

Yet.

Though I'm not sure there will be, I get the impression they want to break the mould a bit with this one.

Don't get the comparisons with BSG to be honest - Voyager, yes, Last Starfighter, yes, Star Trek TNG, yes... Not that these are bad things.

Kinda glad about the Senator. Never liked that actor.

I think the BSG overtones are quite obvious.

A few months after the most critically acclaimed Sci-Fi show of all time finishes we get Stargate changing from its cutesey-wootsey image (espeically with regards Atlantis) and we now get a darker undertone, more blood, a slightly stricter looking military authority and even grainier looking footage.

Someone said Battlegate: Voyager a while back and I think it is acurate so far.

Theres gotta be enemies at some stage.

slimjimmc

noodler wrote: »

I think the BSG overtones are quite obvious.

A few months after the most critically acclaimed Sci-Fi show of all time finishes we get Stargate changing from its cutesey-wootsey image (espeically with regards Atlantis) and we now get a darker undertone, more blood, a slightly stricter looking military authority and even grainier looking footage.

Someone said Battlegate: Voyager a while back and I think it is acurate so far.

Theres gotta be enemies at some stage.

I agree, I thought there was an extremely strong BSG-like mood and feel. e.g fly-on-the-wall (or ceiling) camera shots, shakey hand held camera. The zoomy in & out camera pulls used for the Goa'uld attack is virtually identical to the battle scenes in BSG. The crew flashbacks are presented in a similar fashion to the Gaius Baltar's imagination scenes in BSG (I found the line between then/now a bit vague in SG-U).

The story (Lost in space/Voyager??) is presented in a similar way to BSG, it's darker and deeper, building on different characters with diverse but inter-related sub-plots. Very much un-like SG-1 or SG-A which involved characters visiting a planet, facing adversity or injustice and saving the day (Go USA!!!) all in one episode.

Anyone else made an association between SG-U's Dr. Nicholas Rush and BSG's Gaius Baltar? Both highly intelligent and important scientists, English, possibly with a dark side (American's seem to love portraying mad or evil scientists as English) and both tried to claim leadership (we don't actually know if Rush was given command when he used the communication stones, just that he says he was).

I'm still gonna be hooked on it though .

NotWormBoy

noodler wrote: »

I think the BSG overtones are quite obvious.

A few months after the most critically acclaimed Sci-Fi show of all time finishes we get Stargate changing from its cutesey-wootsey image (espeically with regards Atlantis) and we now get a darker undertone, more blood, a slightly stricter looking military authority and even grainier looking footage.

Someone said Battlegate: Voyager a while back and I think it is acurate so far.

Theres gotta be enemies at some stage.

I see the comparisons in style, maybe. A little. But overall, I didn't think so. I'll watch it again though and look out for it. If anything I thought that it was a bit nastier/grittier feeling than BSG. Someone mentioned Baltar==Rush, not a bad comparison actually.

Out of curiousity though, where did the "the most critically acclaimed Sci-Fi show of all time" come from? Imagine this question in a genuinely questioning way, and not the usual, "what the **** are you talking about, you're full of ****" kinda way.

slimjimmc wrote: »

1The zoomy in & out camera pulls used for the Goa'uld attack is virtually identical to the battle scenes in BSG.1

One thing about this. I always thought the BSG use of the zoomy in and out camera was very much like Firefly. Not denying its a nice little tool, but if we're attributing this to BSG, then we should attribute both to Firefly. I'm sure there was a use of it before Firefly that I don't know of, but that's where I remembered it from.

Overheal

Attention Passengers: This is a reminder that Destiny makes its next scheduled stop tonight.

Jarren

SGU,BSG or Voyager - too many similarities.The story is too dark,grainy looking footage and far too much blood

Where is Jack O'Neill when you need one :rolleyes:

Tristram

Impressive start.

Pollythene Pam

Rubbish. The whole thing is rubbish.
Robert Carlyle can do ten times better than that muck.
Get a load of good looking blonde twenty-somethings and build a storyline around them.
General Hamond is spinning in his grave. As for Robert, he'd be better off going back to Hamish McBeth.

ei.sdraob

jarecki1976 wrote: »

SGU,BSG or Voyager - too many similarities.The story is too dark,grainy looking footage and far too much blood

Where is Jack O'Neill when you need one :rolleyes:

hes in episode 3 again...

Pollythene Pam wrote: »

Rubbish. The whole thing is rubbish.
Robert Carlyle can do ten times better than that muck.
Get a load of good looking blonde twenty-somethings and build a storyline around them.
General Hamond is spinning in his grave. As for Robert, he'd be better off going back to Hamish McBeth.

is there so better sci-fi on tv nowadays that im not aware of?

moaning people like you are responsible for countless good shows being canned and nothing good being on tv...

Pollythene Pam

Have you not seen the new Mork and Mindy?
It kicks ass!!!!!
Mork finds a portal to a new galaxy, which was built by the ancients.
But it turns out Mindy's a Jaffa!!!!!
BRING BACK JACK O'NEILL. WE NEED IRISH BLOOD.

Nothingbetter2d

i must admit im not liking this new series............. way too much like a mix of lost and battlestar galactica

i cant see this last more than 3 series before it gets scrapped if it contiunues this bsg/lost style of jumping back n forth in time for each character and the dark n gloomy setting of the ship.

don ramo

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

i must admit im not liking this new series............. way too much like a mix of lost and battlestar galactica

i cant see this last more than 3 series before it gets scrapped if it contiunues this bsg/lost style of jumping back n forth in time for each character and the dark n gloomy setting of the ship.

i dont really recall body swapping in either lost of BSG, and ive watch both up to date, it was classic stargate, go through the wormhole and explore the planet for something to help them out,

it may have a bit of BSG tone, but it clearly is not BSG,

the swirling sand could have been a lifeform investigating the new people on the planet, of it could have been scotts imagination, the only time jumping was in part 1 of the pilot (im not a fan either and was happy it stopped after the first part), and scotts wasnt time jumping it was showing his memories of the priest that raised him, caracter development is vital in lots of shows, but stargate is only now starting down that path now, its not a lost plot device showing caracters past, shows have been doing that for decades, its just lost uses it a lot and to good effect,

so bar the small BSG tone i see no relation to either lost or BSG, this is stargate, and as long as there going through the stargate regulary thats what the show will be, and this show will be very stargate centric seeing as theres no way earth can reach them by ship, so they have one ship, which they cant leave cause its there only way home

Draupnir

I was a massive fan of Stargate the Movie and SG1, following it religilously on Channel 4 and then Sky since the pilot., never got into Atlantis as it felt too flashy for me and the characters were very much one dimensional SG1 clones in my opinion.

Downloaded SG:U parts 1 to 3 in HD on Apple TV and I am completely hooked. The sets, the props and the characters feel like SG1 offshoots and the storylines thus far have been engrossing.

This show has the potential to be what I hoped for in Atlantis and long may it continue.

The comparisons to BSG are fair and pretty obvious, as someone who found that show very dull I think SG:U could be BSG only good!

ixoy

Points well made above - 'Lost' didn't invent the concept of flashbacks. It made them an integral part of the show but having a character use a flashback in another show is not a copy of 'Lost.

Similarily having a dark angle or being lost is not something that BSG or Voyager invented, in the same way as '24' did not invent the split-screen view. These shows just made such heavy use of them that it appears anyone else is using them when in fact they copied the concept from elsewhere and just used it as a story-telling mechanism or concept in the same way as 'Voyager' did.

Sure let's say 'Stargate: Universe' is copying 'Citizen Kane' which pioneered many directorial flourishes and also had flashbacks - Rosebud!

It's what SG:U does with the tools and basic premise that distinguishes it and given the premise and tools are only a very simple story framework, there's nothing to suggest that using them will make it a clone of any of the shows above.

who_me

ixoy wrote: »

Points well made above - 'Lost' didn't invent the concept of flashbacks. It made them an integral part of the show but having a character use a flashback in another show is not a copy of 'Lost.

Very true. But Lost took the idea and repeated it so often as to make it virtually a "Lost formula". Take a character at a dramatic point in their life; then flash back to the past and show an important episode in their past, some event that changed their life or someone they knew; before coming back to the present where suddenly their actions and motives are clear. Next episode, pick a different character, rinse and repeat.

I hope SG:U isn't going down that road; I find it makes watching an episode very, very tedious. It's like reading a hugely important, dramatic sentence in which something is just about to... - but first, let me tell you something about my childhood, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah - ... go BOOM.

who_me

Mitch Connor wrote: »

i don't like this 12 hour countdown idea.

I had read about it a while back and didn't like the idea of it then, still don't like it.

I can just see far too many eps ending with them just getting back in time.

I actually liked the idea, but they've already solved this one. Just poke something through the stargate (oooh err) and it'll stay open indefinitely. Funnily enough I was just wondering the same when Rush suggested it in the show.

My guess is they'll have to close that little 'loophole' if they want to keep the 12 hour idea in the show.

hightower1

I have been watching this online and on Sky .... dam its class.
Feels more grown up, deeper and edgy. I mean the pilot killed off someone I thought was going to be a long standing character, the end of air part three really was tense and that wasnt for some ancient weapon it was simply so they could breath!

My heads wrecked from wondering what the shuttle like craft flying away from Destiny was at the end of air part3 and will we see the other two mogs who went through to the locked out address from the desert planet????



Excellent stuff.

Purple Gorilla

who_me wrote: »

I actually liked the idea, but they've already solved this one. Just poke something through the stargate (oooh err) and it'll stay open indefinitely. Funnily enough I was just wondering the same when Rush suggested it in the show.

My guess is they'll have to close that little 'loophole' if they want to keep the 12 hour idea in the show.

AFAIK it doesn't stay open indefinitely. You'll notice that the ship was beginning to jump into FTL in the last few seconds while Eli was holding it open and that Eli made it through the Stargate by the skin of his teeth as the wormhole was closing as he came through.

don ramo

Purple Gorilla wrote: »

AFAIK it doesn't stay open indefinitely. You'll notice that the ship was beginning to jump into FTL in the last few seconds while Eli was holding it open and that Eli made it through the Stargate by the skin of his teeth as the wormhole was closing as he came through.

a wormhole can only remain open for 38 minutes regardless if an object is in it, the only way to break that rule is it give the gate a massive amount of energy,

don ramo

who_me wrote: »

Very true. But Lost took the idea and repeated it so often as to make it virtually a "Lost formula". Take a character at a dramatic point in their life; then flash back to the past and show an important episode in their past, some event that changed their life or someone they knew; before coming back to the present where suddenly their actions and motives are clear. Next episode, pick a different character, rinse and repeat.

actually highlander the series used the idea way before lost, every episode had flashbacks and they always related to what he was doing at present, so lost stole there flashback heavy tool from highlander, who stole it from someone else and on and on and on,

Hellm0

Watched the first three episodes last night. I might be wrong, but it seems that every 5 minutes the show cuts to overly dramatic "sad" music in some kind of mini-montage. I swear, one of them could drop their keys and end up being on screen for ages just looking sad with that crappy music playing in the background.

Turtwig

Well, it's early days yet but ....

BOY has this been worth the wait*...brings we back to when SG1 first began and it would have been perfect before the

fact that I didn't recognise O'Neil on two ocassions what happened to that guy:(

Good stuff SGU keep it up

*Now is as good as time as any to confess that I hadn't really high hopes for this:o

Purple Gorilla

don ramo wrote: »

a wormhole can only remain open for 38 minutes regardless if an object is in it, the only way to break that rule is it give the gate a massive amount of energy,

But if I remember from Atlantis, A gate's co-ordinates or something have to be re-configured when the Gate is moving through space to account for it's location (Like when they were flying Atlantis through space and couldn't get to a planet because they didn't know where they were and couldn't re-programme the Stargate). When Destiny goes into FTL, the Stargate on the desert planet would lose it's lock on the stargate and the wormhole would close.

Turtwig

Purple Gorilla wrote: »

But if I remember from Atlantis, A gate's co-ordinates or something have to be re-configured when the Gate is moving through space to account for it's location (Like when they were flying Atlantis through space and couldn't get to a planet because they didn't know where they were and couldn't re-programme the Stargate). When Destiny goes into FTL, the Stargate on the desert planet would lose it's lock on the stargate and the wormhole would close.

Yeah that's true but Destiny was prevented from going into FTL because of Eli's hand, don was merely saying that even if they could use this all the time it would only allow the explorers at most 38 minutes.

don ramo

Purple Gorilla wrote: »

But if I remember from Atlantis, A gate's co-ordinates or something have to be re-configured when the Gate is moving through space to account for it's location (Like when they were flying Atlantis through space and couldn't get to a planet because they didn't know where they were and couldn't re-programme the Stargate). When Destiny goes into FTL, the Stargate on the desert planet would lose it's lock on the stargate and the wormhole would close.

destiny tried to enter FTL, the whole ship started shaking, which didnt happen when it first entered FTL when they arrived, if the ship drops out of FTL when an incoming wormhole is activated surely it wont enter if theres one already active, where is the ship in such a rush to anyway,

im gonna assume they find a way to turn off the timer, theres obviously a control room on the ship, and there must be away to control it, although the ship is probably so big it could take 6 months if not longer to find the main control room, the ancient hardly built a ship with an autopilot that cant be turned off

Purple Gorilla

Malty_T wrote: »

Yeah that's true but Destiny was prevented from going into FTL because of Eli's hand, don was merely saying that even if they could use this all the time it would only allow the explorers at most 38 minutes.

Oh yea I get what he was saying, but what I was saying was that the way I see it, the safety mechanism only prevents the Destiny from going into FTL for a few seconds (minutes at most) because it doesn't take 38 minutes for something to pass through the Stargate so it would be obvious that the safety mechanism keeps the wormhole open for a few seconds while something is coming through the stargate.

I'm basing this off the fact that if you watch the part in the 3rd episode where Eli has his hand through the stargate and the countdown hits zero, the ship starts shaking as it's preparing to go into FTL but waiting a few seconds for something to pass through the Stargate. You see that Eli just makes it through the stargate as the wormhole is closing which suggests that Destiny was going to go into FTL if whether he went through fully or not at that point.

Ya get me?
(Skip to 2:27)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9Z7sXk2xTE

helimachoptor

Malty_T wrote: »

and it would have been perfect before the

fact that I didn't recognise O'Neil on two ocassions what happened to that guy:(

It's called getting older buddy! I'm sure you looked different when SG1 premeired!