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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 fei_hung


    Ladies and gents.

    I`ve been looking for the answer to this question for some time now.

    Does anybody know if the garda accept a fetac level 6 qualification in lieu of the leaving cert?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 430 ✭✭da__flash


    fei_hung wrote: »
    Ladies and gents.

    I`ve been looking for the answer to this question for some time now.

    Does anybody know if the garda accept a fetac level 6 qualification in lieu of the leaving cert?

    to be honest with you i think you should check garda.ie all the info is there and with the new recommditions on the review its says candidates should have 140 points in the Lc i dont think they would if that comes in..


  • Registered Users Posts: 88 ✭✭DUBDUBDUB


    da__flash wrote: »
    to be honest with you i think you should check garda.ie all the info is there and with the new recommditions on the review its says candidates should have 140 points in the Lc i dont think they would if that comes in..

    they always wanted leaving cert. Even if you have a degree in criminology, if you dont have leaving cert, you dont get in. Despite the fact they accepted applied leaving cert which seems to be an award for turning up and finding your school every day.

    madness


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,935 Mod ✭✭✭✭Turner


    DUBDUBDUB wrote: »
    they always wanted leaving cert. Even if you have a degree in criminology, if you dont have leaving cert, you dont get in. Despite the fact they accepted applied leaving cert which seems to be an award for turning up and finding your school every day.

    madness

    Many people with learning difficulties take the leaving cert applied, such as dyslexics.

    Dont be so quick to slag it off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 breen.a


    Hello.
    I was just wondering(question for those who are fully trained garda)is your job what you expected it to be or were you surprised?
    also,would you recommend the gardai as a careers prospect to those still i secondary school?
    thanks:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 43 hurler_87


    for my own curiosity more than anything, and bear in mind i'm in no way a political person...

    but my understanding of these continuous pay cuts in the public service in either a direct or indirect way is going to extend the recruitment embargo for the garda siochana, is that right?

    am i getting the right end of the stick on this particular matter?


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭clayton1


    i was just told that you need Honours English to get in now, is that true?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭Frank Spencer


    clayton1 wrote: »
    i was just told that you need Honours English to get in now, is that true?

    Can't answer this but what is the definiton of honours english? Is it a passing grade in the higher level paper or is it a certain grade in the higher level paper?


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭clayton1


    Can't answer this but what is the definiton of honours english? Is it a passing grade in the higher level paper or is it a certain grade in the higher level paper?

    i am guessing that it is at least a D3 in higher level english


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 430 ✭✭da__flash


    clayton1 wrote: »
    i was just told that you need Honours English to get in now, is that true?

    Where did you get this information from then?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭clayton1


    da__flash wrote: »
    Where did you get this information from then?

    a full time mule told me.. he said he heard it... like, i doubt this TBH.
    but that is what he heard.

    i am going to call HRM and ask, because i am curious now


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭clayton1


    clayton1 wrote: »
    i was just told that you need Honours English to get in now, is that true?

    I just spoke to HRM there myself, and this is bullshi*.

    Also, all of the other "new" criteria is bullshi* aswell. The entry requirements to join the Gards are the exact same now as they have been.
    He said that this is statutory law, and that is not the easiest to change, like any law. It could take up to a year.

    I asked sneakily about recruitment (as you do), and he said he doesn't know. But he said that there is a full review on recruitment being done in the next couple of months, which means that they will know then whether there will be a campaign soon or not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 430 ✭✭da__flash


    clayton1 wrote: »
    I just spoke to HRM there myself, and this is bullshi*.

    Also, all of the other "new" criteria is bullshi* aswell. The entry requirements to join the Gards are the exact same now as they have been.
    He said that this is statutory law, and that is not the easiest to change, like any law. It could take up to a year.

    I asked sneakily about recruitment (as you do), and he said he doesn't know. But he said that there is a full review on recruitment being done in the next couple of months, which means that they will know then whether there will be a campaign soon or not.

    a thats a nice bit of information there now, i suddenly saw recruitment disappear when honours english was mentioned :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9 kovu24


    HI guys new to this so please forgive me if i make any mistakes, i am just wondering can you join AGS if you have an offence for driving with no insurance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭klong


    clayton1 wrote: »
    I just spoke to HRM there myself, and this is bullshi*.

    Also, all of the other "new" criteria is bullshi* aswell. The entry requirements to join the Gards are the exact same now as they have been.
    He said that this is statutory law, and that is not the easiest to change, like any law. It could take up to a year.

    I asked sneakily about recruitment (as you do), and he said he doesn't know. But he said that there is a full review on recruitment being done in the next couple of months, which means that they will know then whether there will be a campaign soon or not.

    So if the requirements are enshrined in statute law...which Act are they contained in? Pardon me if I seem a bit sceptical...well, I am! :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭clayton1


    klong wrote: »
    So if the requirements are enshrined in statute law...which Act are they contained in? Pardon me if I seem a bit sceptical...well, I am! :pac:
    i don't know, that's what they told me.. from the horses mouth as they say


    anyway, this is good news

    http://breakingnews.ie/ireland/garda-recruitment-to-recommence-this-year-455789.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭Hooch


    kovu24 wrote: »
    HI guys new to this so please forgive me if i make any mistakes, i am just wondering can you join AGS if you have an offence for driving with no insurance?

    If thats the only offence them im sue you would......however dont expect to EVER drive a patrol car.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭miss5


    Hi, Have been reading a lot about new criteria for joining, Has any of this been
    officially announced? thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭clayton1


    miss5 wrote: »
    Hi, Have been reading a lot about new criteria for joining, Has any of this been
    officially announced? thanks.

    No, it is all rumour and no truth to it. I know this, because i spoke to HRM myself and asked them this question.

    It will take a long time to add this criteria to entry requirements.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭miss5


    Thank Clayton, There has been so much speculation about it lately.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 nurseskeff


    hi there just reading a few of the posts on here.im a nurse for 13 years but would love to apply for the guards.its been on my mind for a while now.just wondering about the new criteria expected to be brought in for the next recruitment drive ie:first aid course etc.im wondering would i be expected to do a first aid course or can they make exemptions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭Hooch


    nurseskeff wrote: »
    hi there just reading a few of the posts on here.im a nurse for 13 years but would love to apply for the guards.its been on my mind for a while now.just wondering about the new criteria expected to be brought in for the next recruitment drive ie:first aid course etc.im wondering would i be expected to do a first aid course or can they make exemptions

    I would expect you have no PHECC accreditation. Most CPR courses in hospital are BLS healthcare provider......so on this I would try to have a PHECC accredited course done if possible.


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭clayton1


    nurseskeff wrote: »
    hi there just reading a few of the posts on here.im a nurse for 13 years but would love to apply for the guards.its been on my mind for a while now.just wondering about the new criteria expected to be brought in for the next recruitment drive ie:first aid course etc.im wondering would i be expected to do a first aid course or can they make exemptions


    there is NO new criteria, as HRM confirmed to me themselves. And don't let people tell you otherwise


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭Hooch


    nurseskeff wrote: »
    this sounds a bit over the top .i have my acls course done .i want to be a guard not to do more healthcare stuff.and i dont want to be a paramedic.i actually think im more than qualified to provide first aid or even prehospital care.thanks for the advice though.it will be interesting to see what they introduce.

    No I would strongly disagree with you. Pre hospital care is a little different than in hospital care....and last time I checked AGS dont cover you to use any skills as a nurse.....they will however cover up to PHECC EMT.

    As the other poster said they havint changed anything yet......however if people think they are 100% of anything yet they are sadly mistaken. As I have said 1,000 times.....AGS can, have and still do change things over night......so dont be caught out for something small;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 nurseskeff


    No I would strongly disagree with you. Pre hospital care is a little different than in hospital care....and last time I checked AGS dont cover you to use any skills as a nurse.....they will however cover up to PHECC EMT.

    As the other poster said they havint changed anything yet......however if people think they are 100% of anything yet they are sadly mistaken. As I have said 1,000 times.....AGS can, have and still do change things over night......so dont be caught out for something small;)

    Well i would actually feel a little insulted to have to go off and do a first aid course to join the guards when im a very experienced nurse. I want to be a guard not train as a nurse or emt. Thats the whole point. Its ridiculous.

    So my skills as a nurse are less important than that of an emt. Sorry i strongly disagree with you on that one. Both professions ie;nurse and emt are equally as important as each other in my opinion. If i wanted to be an emt id do the emt course.

    I agree that having some basic knowledge of first aid is a must but expecting people to do over the top courses to apply for AGS is madness. I agree with also having a full licence and also being able to swim.

    My dream is to be a guard not continue as a nurse. I ve done the whole nursing thing. Dont get me wrong i love nursing but my dream is to be a member of AGS.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭Hooch


    nurseskeff wrote: »
    well i would actually feel a little insulted to have to go off and do a first aid course to join the guards when im a very experienced nurse.i want to be a guard not train as a nurse or emt.thats the whole point.its ridiculous.so my skills as a nurse are less important than that of an emt.sorry i strongly disagree with you on that one.both professions ie;nurse and emt are equally as important as each other in my opinion.if i wanted to be an emt id do the emt course.i agree that having some basic knowledge of first aid is a must but expecting people to do over the top courses to apply for AGS is madness .i agree with also having a full licence and also being able to swim.my dream is to be a guard not continue as a nurse.i ve done the whole nursing thing.dont get me wrong i love nursing but my dream is to be a member of AGS.

    Slow down now...also please try to use paragraphys as its easier to read.

    I never said Nurses were less important than EMTs, please dont put words in posts where they are not. EMTs are trained to a far less level than Nurses. The envoirnment that both practice in is different however. Practices are different. Nurses practices may not equate to out of hospital care.

    No one is expecting anyone to go over the top....however if you have a simple one day PHECC CFR course wouldnt it be nice to go into an interview and say "Well im a qualified nurse but I did the CFR course so I would be PHECC compliant for the Gardaí....!";)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 nurseskeff


    Slow down now...also please try to use paragraphys as its easier to read.

    I never said Nurses were less important than EMTs, please dont put words in posts where they are not. EMTs are trained to a far less level than Nurses. The envoirnment that both practice in is different however. Practices are different. Nurses practices may not equate to out of hospital care.

    No one is expecting anyone to go over the top....however if you have a simple one day PHECC CFR course wouldnt it be nice to go into an interview and say "Well im a qualified nurse but I did the CFR course so I would be PHECC compliant for the Gardaí....!";)
    please dont patronise me.if i wanted to use paragraphs i would have.we will just have to agree to disagree


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭Hooch


    nurseskeff wrote: »
    please dont patronise me.if i wanted to use paragraphs i would have.we will just have to agree to disagree

    Right...make no mistake if you dont use paragraphs the you will be infracted, simple.

    It was not a request, it was a moderator instruction.

    And yes we'll just have to agree to disagree......


  • Registered Users Posts: 206 ✭✭sitja


    tempers flaring here guys, just remember this forum is for helping and since ive showed an interest in this, i have got nothing but help so thank you guys.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 216 ✭✭spudz21


    nurseskeff wrote: »
    hi there just reading a few of the posts on here.im a nurse for 13 years but would love to apply for the guards.its been on my mind for a while now.just wondering about the new criteria expected to be brought in for the next recruitment drive ie:first aid course etc.im wondering would i be expected to do a first aid course or can they make exemptions

    You have to remember they are still ONLY recommendations at this stage:D
    There has been nothing concrete to say we have to have a first aid course, will have to sit tight and see. No need to be getting stressed about it:P


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,810 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    Thanks for the kind words sitja. We don't get them too often because it's our job to be helpful and police the forum at the same time. A task which is very difficult, because historically we've had to warn or infract users who we had previously helped.

    We don't get paid for it, sometimes it can be quite stressful, and all boards.ie moderators have been abused at some point in this voluntary role.
    sitja wrote: »
    tempers flaring here guys, just remember this forum is for helping and since ive showed an interest in this, i have got nothing but help so thank you guys.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 Barnia


    Hi Guys

    Wondering does anybody know, if you have a sibling with a criminal record
    would you be imediately disqualified from becoming a garda?

    Thanks in advance


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭clayton1


    Barnia wrote: »
    Hi Guys

    Wondering does anybody know, if you have a sibling with a criminal record
    would you be imediately disqualified from becoming a garda?

    Thanks in advance

    that is impossible for us to answer, because depends on severity etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 Barnia


    Thanks for reply C, just so I have an slight idea... if the offense is not so severe (fighting and serving a 3month sentance in prison and been caught with small amount of drugs for personal use) then I might have a chance of getting in?
    Its just because I heard years ago that if a sibling has a c. record then I can't even apply...maybe that wasn't true or things have eased up a bit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭Hooch


    Barnia wrote: »
    Hi Guys

    Wondering does anybody know, if you have a sibling with a criminal record
    would you be imediately disqualified from becoming a garda?

    Thanks in advance

    As claton said its impossible to say.....however remember it YOU thats applying for AGS.....not you brother;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭clayton1


    Barnia wrote: »
    Thanks for reply C, just so I have an slight idea... if the offense is not so severe (fighting and serving a 3month sentance in prison and been caught with small amount of drugs for personal use) then I might have a chance of getting in?
    Its just because I heard years ago that if a sibling has a c. record then I can't even apply...maybe that wasn't true or things have eased up a bit

    YOU were caught with drugs and sent to prison for 3 months?
    then you have no chance pal.. ha ha, jasus.

    If it's your sibling, then you still have a good chance of getting into AGS, why should you pay for his / her mistakes..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 Barnia


    No of course not me:o , my sibling was!
    do you know long the recruitment process is taking these with the recession? thanks:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭Hooch


    Barnia wrote: »
    No of course not me:o , my sibling was!
    do you know long the recruitment process is taking these with the recession? thanks:D

    There is no recruitment.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 543 ✭✭✭DK47


    public jobs just announced garda trainee 2010, details to follow in the coming weeks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭clayton1


    DK47 wrote: »
    public jobs just announced garda trainee 2010, details to follow in the coming weeks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

    no way - deadly :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 BlueBell32


    Hi,
    Great to hear AGS will be recruiting soon. Am thinking of applying. In my early 30's and wondering how tough the training would be in templemore if I mananged to get that far. Would appreciate any info.


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭clayton1


    a friend of mine who is a detective, was down in a training course in templemore last week. he rang me and told me that they are introducing the swimming and first aid criteria.

    i don't know the in's and out's of the swimming, but thats what he said.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 79 ✭✭StreetAngel


    clayton1 wrote: »
    a friend of mine who is a detective, was down in a training course in templemore last week. he rang me and told me that they are introducing the swimming and first aid criteria.

    i don't know the in's and out's of the swimming, but thats what he said.


    I presume that if there was going to be criteria introduced, that we would be given a chance to do courses in order to meet them :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭clayton1


    I presume that if there was going to be criteria introduced, that we would be given a chance to do courses in order to meet them :confused:

    i hope so, because i only have 1 of the 3 thus far myself - and that is the full driving licence.

    I am going to make a quick call and see what is the story relating to this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 79 ✭✭StreetAngel


    clayton1 wrote: »
    i hope so, because i only have 1 of the 3 thus far myself - and that is the full driving licence.

    I am going to make a quick call and see what is the story relating to this.


    I'm the exact same!! let us know if you find out anything!!! :D I'd imagine they would give people time to get this all sorted out tho!?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭itsallgood


    I'm the exact same!! let us know if you find out anything!!! :D I'd imagine they would give people time to get this all sorted out tho!?

    I was told the next drive will be the same as previous ones and no new recomendations have been implemented as of yet,
    However, if they do add anything, they will be achievable ones. (ie first aid course is a 2 day course) couldn't foresee any others unless the driving licence is brought in but he said its highly doubtful.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 79 ✭✭StreetAngel


    itsallgood wrote: »
    I was told the next drive will be the same as previous ones and no new recomendations have been implemented as of yet,
    However, if they do add anything, they will be achievable ones. (ie first aid course is a 2 day course) couldn't foresee any others unless the driving licence is brought in but he said its highly doubtful.

    Oh right, that wouldn't be so bad, at least it would be do-able! hopefully they wont implement any big swimming criteria! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 BlueBell32


    Would they really bring in swimming as one of the criteria?? I can swim but wouldn't do it regularly. Bit worried bout this now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 79 ✭✭StreetAngel


    BlueBell32 wrote: »
    Would they really bring in swimming as one of the criteria?? I can swim but wouldn't do it regularly. Bit worried bout this now.


    I'm in the same boat!! It's impossible to know what they're planning to do!! :eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 BlueBell32


    Good to know I'm not the only one! All this speculation is doing my head in, would just love to know where I stand as in what they will be looking for. Do you think it will be november before the aptitute will start?


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