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Portrait of an atheist?

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  • 02-03-2009 7:54pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭


    OK atheists are a diverse crowd- no doubt about that, no such thing as a typical atheist.

    But there are admittedly certain traits/attitudes/beliefs/behaviours more commonly associated with atheists than say with theists.

    Presumably one obvious thing (possible a pre-requisite), is that they are rational creatures, sceptical creatures even, who have little truck with anything other than hard worldly proof.
    It's also probably not a stretch to say more/(most?) atheists are liberal-minded/libertarian rather than conservative-leaning.

    What other attitudes/features tend to prevail among atheists.

    Also, admittedly much of these things may be merely correlative.
    But what (if any) attitudes/behaviours might atheism actually (strongly) inform or influence.

    Could there even be undesirable attitudes/behaviours that are more prevalent among atheists as a group?
    (again compared to say theists as a group).

    OK i'm kinda looking for common themes in atheistic thinking in a slightly provocative, irreverent way but i'm genuinely interested.

    /applies flame-retardant liberally. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,346 ✭✭✭Rev Hellfire


    They're in their late teens and reacting to the oppression mum and dad have put them though. :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭fitz0


    tech77 wrote: »
    What other attitudes/features tend to prevail among atheists.
    Not believing in god:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭tech77


    fitz0 wrote: »
    Not believing in god:eek:

    Yes, very good.
    Atheists are atheistic.

    What OTHER beliefs/attitudes/behaviours/tendencies are commonly found in this diverse group?

    And which beliefs/attitudes/behaviours etc would you go on to say are even informed by atheism.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭Húrin


    Atheists in Ireland often seem to be more right-wing (liberal, I mean) than theists. Except for the far left, who are also atheistic for the most part.

    Atheists tend to be younger than theists. I would disagree that they are "rational, sceptical creatures". Such people exist on both sides of the God divide, as do their opposites. Remember there are plenty of myths around that have little to do with religion. The marketing industry perpetuates quite a lot of them, and atheists seem just as open to them as theists, if not more so.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    Generally pro-choice.

    Nearly always pro stem cell research.

    Generally pro gay marriage.

    Mostly anti-death penalty

    Generally like satire above all other forms of comedy and are far less likely to get the wrong end of the stick whilst watching it.

    Not as nationalist as non atheists

    Vegetarians tend to be generally atheist in my experience.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 279 ✭✭velocirafter


    Húrin wrote: »
    The marketing industry perpetuates quite a lot of them, and atheists seem just as open to them as theists, if not more so.


    how are they more so?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭Overblood


    Húrin wrote: »

    Atheists tend to be younger than theists. I would disagree that they are "rational, sceptical creatures". Such people exist on both sides of the God divide, as do their opposites.

    For sure skeptical and rational creatures exist on both sides.

    But religious people's skeptical/rational/critical faculties seem to shut down when it comes to questioning their own religion.


    The typical atheist is also cool.:cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Húrin wrote: »
    Atheists in Ireland often seem to be more right-wing (liberal, I mean) than theists. Except for the far left, who are also atheistic for the most part.

    :confused: Does not compute


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Proportionately more atheists like Science Fiction and/or own a sword.

    Also, more interestingly, the same proportion of atheists will go to heaven or hell as believers. :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 424 ✭✭Obni


    Dades wrote: »
    Proportionately more atheists like Science Fiction and/or own a sword.
    Brilliant! :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭sink


    Interested in politics, particularly international affairs, history and science. Political i'm liberal on social issues and centrist on economic issues. Don't own a sword but I do like a sci-fi particularly hard sci-fi.


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Atheists like stereotypes. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭Borneo Fnctn


    Húrin wrote: »
    I would disagree that they are "rational, sceptical creatures".

    Come off it Hurín. Atheists by their nature are rational. People who believe in God have put logic aside.


  • Registered Users Posts: 520 ✭✭✭Bduffman


    We are generally better looking & fantastic in bed.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Bduffman wrote: »
    We are generally better looking & fantastic in bed.
    cusl01_hitchens0710.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    *swoon* :D

    edit:

    74057.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 520 ✭✭✭Bduffman


    Bduffman wrote: »
    We are generally better looking & fantastic in bed.

    Welllll - I was only expecting to fool theists (especially good look female ones). They have been known to believe very unlikely things you know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    *puts hand to forehead*

    LZ forsees this thread descending into a "rational -v- irrational" slanging match.

    I think it's too much of a broad subject really and it is borderline asking for stereotypes. You will come across intelligent and positively engaging atheists. You will come across atheists who are intelligent but who are also anti-theist (the most formidable foe!:eek::pac:). You will come across pretentious and provoking atheists. You will come across religious people who can hold their own in an intelligent manner. You will come across the religious zealots and fundamentalists.

    Neither "group" exclusively share common traits


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,975 ✭✭✭nkay1985


    Overblood wrote: »
    The typical atheist is also cool.:cool:

    Finally I'm cool...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭Phototoxin


    Generally pro-choice.

    No

    Nearly always pro stem cell research.

    No

    Generally pro gay marriage.

    No

    Mostly anti-death penalty

    Yes

    Generally like satire above all other forms of comedy and are far less likely to get the wrong end of the stick whilst watching it.

    No but it is funny

    Not as nationalist as non atheists

    My GF is english.. go figure

    Vegetarians tend to be generally atheist in my experience.

    I know a lot of Chrisitan Veggies

    Proportionately more atheists like Science Fiction and/or own a sword.

    No

    Atheists like stereotypes

    No

    We are generally better looking & fantastic in bed.

    Can't say


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    Húrin wrote: »
    Atheists in Ireland often seem to be more right-wing (liberal, I mean) than theists.

    This makes no sense. The term 'right-wing' very much implies a conservative anti-liberal viewpoint.

    I would disagree that they are "rational, sceptical creatures". Such people exist on both sides of the God divide, as do their opposites.

    It is an inescapable fact that religious belief is the very antithesis of rationality, and that for most atheists it is/was their applying a rational sceptical mindset to the world around them that led to their atheistic stance in the first place. This ain't a 50-50 divide I'm afraid.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    Phototoxin wrote: »
    Generally pro-choice.

    No -

    Nearly always pro stem cell research.

    No

    Generally pro gay marriage.

    No

    Mostly anti-death penalty

    Yes

    Generally like satire above all other forms of comedy and are far less likely to get the wrong end of the stick whilst watching it.

    No but it is funny

    Not as nationalist as non atheists

    My GF is english.. go figure

    Vegetarians tend to be generally atheist in my experience.

    I know a lot of Chrisitan Veggies

    Are you answering for yourself or just saying words?


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    nkay1985 wrote: »
    Finally I'm cool...

    Oh you arent one of the typical ones. (I am :cool:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭mickeydevine


    Generally pro-choice.

    Nearly always pro stem cell research.

    Generally pro gay marriage.

    Mostly anti-death penalty

    Generally like satire above all other forms of comedy and are far less likely to get the wrong end of the stick whilst watching it.

    Not as nationalist as non atheists

    Vegetarians tend to be generally atheist in my experience.

    I'd say pro choice covers it all really altough I'm not so sure about anti-death penalty. Murderers and baby-rapists should be hung by the neck until they are dead IMO. Failing that build a huge dome on some island off the coast with no doors or windows and let them duke it out for the meagre rations we provide a la Jet Lee in "The One". (Pay-per-view of course)


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


    aidan24326 wrote: »
    This makes no sense. The term 'right-wing' very much implies a conservative anti-liberal viewpoint.

    I think he's talking about fiscal liberalism, which is free-market conservatism.

    Hurin - I honestly have no clue where you get the idea that atheists are right-wing in their outlook.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭Phototoxin


    I'd say pro choice covers it all really altough I'm not so sure about anti-death penalty. Murderers and baby-rapists should be hung by the neck until they are dead IMO. Failing that build a huge dome on some island off the coast with no doors or windows and let them duke it out for the meagre rations we provide a la Jet Lee in "The One". (Pay-per-view of course)


    I'm pro-life.
    Are you answering for yourself or just saying words?


    Myself I do not presume to steriotype people


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭CerebralCortex


    I think he's talking about fiscal liberalism, which is free-market conservatism.

    Hurin - I honestly have no clue where you get the idea that atheists are right-wing in their outlook.

    Because according to him we are close minded and illiberal due to our rejection of certain man made institutions where the reverse is true. He's doing the whole fight fire with fire tactic but pretty poorly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭Myksyk


    We think we're good-looking, cool and brilliant in bed ... which is why we should chat up theistic women ... they'd believe delusional fairytales.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭Húrin


    how are they more so?

    Because most atheists lack a competing set of memes that carry an assumed moral authority.
    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    *puts hand to forehead*

    LZ forsees this thread descending into a "rational -v- irrational" slanging match.

    It's OK, I'm not taking the bait.
    Hurin - I honestly have no clue where you get the idea that atheists are right-wing in their outlook.

    It's not instrinsic to atheism, it's just a trend I've noticed in this country. I've noticed that atheists tend to be liberal on social issues, but usually to the right of Christians on economic issues.
    Because according to him we are close minded and illiberal due to our rejection of certain man made institutions where the reverse is true. He's doing the whole fight fire with fire tactic but pretty poorly.

    Wow, someone's really looking for a flame war.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭CerebralCortex


    Húrin wrote: »
    It's not instrinsic to atheism, it's just a trend I've noticed in this country. I've noticed that atheists tend to be liberal on social issues, but usually to the right of Christians on economic issues.

    How so?
    Húrin wrote: »
    Wow, someone's really looking for a flame war.

    Not really just calling it as I consistently see it.


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