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Traitors!

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,219 ✭✭✭invincibleirish


    D. Yorke


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭Benedict XVI


    I don't think Traitors actually exist.

    These people are professionals doing a job, any of us would move job to a bigger/better company for more money if we though it would be a benefit to us in either the long, medium or short term.

    Fans calling players traitors show how fans are more passionate about their clubs that players will ever be, which is perfectly alright


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,588 ✭✭✭jaykay74


    Ince for wearing a Utd top before the transfer from West Ham.

    since we are also talking international traitors Stephen Ireland is seen as one (though its a meh from me)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭Highsider


    Roy Keane. No contest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,455 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    jaykay74 wrote: »
    Ince for wearing a Utd top before the transfer from West Ham.

    since we are also talking international traitors Stephen Ireland is seen as one (though its a meh from me)
    Well, if Roy Keane is a traitor to Ireland, then so is Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,852 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    Not really a traitor but I lost a lot of respect for Schmeichel when he went to City.

    Same goes for Mark Hughes

    LMAO


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,588 ✭✭✭jaykay74


    Well, if Roy Keane is a traitor to Ireland, then so is Ireland.

    not to mention Scholes, Carragher, Shearer.... imagine retiring early to prolong a club career. Does your country mean nothing to you :pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,993 ✭✭✭Trippie


    ~Rebel~ wrote: »
    Would have thought Batistuta would have been on the ops list, leaving Fiorentina who had erected a statue in his honour, to join Roma, and help them win the league.

    I think he was shipped off just like rui costa due to the finaincial needs of the club rather than a desire to leave and also fiorentina and roma wouldnt be considered that big of a chasm to cross hence why he isn't in the original list.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,103 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Trippie wrote: »
    I think he was shipped off just like rui costa due to the finaincial needs of the club rather than a desire to leave and also fiorentina and roma wouldnt be considered that big of a chasm to cross hence why he isn't in the original list.
    they weren't but at the same time Fiorentina had been building for a league winning challenge. I always got the impression at the time that he left to pursue a league title, which he got in his first season at Roma


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,001 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Personally I had a few, David May, Henning Berg who both went to United when we were competing with them at the top of the table.
    But the most annoying was Lucas Neill who was our Captain and would not sign a contract, he went on a Bosman. That really sickened me.

    I see some people have mentioned Cantona and Smith but not Ferdianand. Just wondering why not Ferdinand?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭iregk


    Batistuta doesn't apply here at all. Shame on the person for throwing his name in. He was at the time a 20m asset and La Viola were in financial turmoil He didn't want to leave but said if the 20m was of more benefit to the club than him staying he would go to help the club.

    They sold him to Roma for 22m and he left an absolute legend. So much so that 15k tickets for Roma's last league game the following season were actually bought by Viola fans who went to cheer him lifting the league title he so craved. If he took a dump wrapped it in tinfoil and hung fish hooks onto it Fiorentina fans would buy it as an earings.

    I've not read the article so appologies if this is in there. Baggio would be one Juve fans would mention. The infamous penalty and scarf incident was possibly the most poignant moment of his career.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,072 ✭✭✭✭event


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Personally I had a few, David May, Henning Berg who both went to United when we were competing with them at the top of the table.
    But the most annoying was Lucas Neill who was our Captain and would not sign a contract, he went on a Bosman. That really sickened me.

    I see some people have mentioned Cantona and Smith but not Ferdianand. Just wondering why not Ferdinand?

    well i wouldnt mention cantona really, he was only there for a season, and tbh, he wasnt the good with us really, he didnt do a lot

    ferdinand, as he wasnt a leeds lad. i dont mind other joining united from leeds, but not if you are a leeds fan, born and bred.
    rio was always gonna go to a much better team, he was unbelievable for us back then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,001 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I think most of the big ones have been named, but there are a few more.

    Frank Lampard, Joe Cole and Glen Johnson to Chelsea from West Ham. Even though the club was blamed for letting them go it must horrify them.

    And of course the most hated man for Spurs fans right now.


    "It's a pleasure and an honour to play for Tottenham and I enjoy myself here. I love everyone who loves Tottenham and I see the passion of our fans,"

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Personally I had a few, David May, Henning Berg who both went to United when we were competing with them at the top of the table.
    But the most annoying was Lucas Neill who was our Captain and would not sign a contract, he went on a Bosman. That really sickened me.

    I see some people have mentioned Cantona and Smith but not Ferdianand. Just wondering why not Ferdinand?

    Tbh, I forgot about Rio.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,435 ✭✭✭✭redout


    Peter Beardsley moved from Liverpool to Everton.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,001 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    redout wrote: »
    Peter Beardsley moved from Liverpool to Everton.
    There has been plenty have made that move when it was presumed their career was winding down, Beardsley was one of the few who proved that his career was far from over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,435 ✭✭✭✭redout


    eagle eye wrote: »
    There has been plenty have made that move when it was presumed their career was winding down, Beardsley was one of the few who proved that his career was far from over.

    Over the both clubs lifespans there have been about twenty or so transfers if I remember correctly. Sure one of the Pool fans can verify that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 675 ✭✭✭poindexter


    judas mo johnston


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,326 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    The thing about the Roy Keane and Blackburn thing was that Keane had agreed a verbal deal, He was at Ewood on the Sunday i think it was, and Blackburn had no Secretarial staff available. Keane said he would sign in the morning,

    Fergie contacted him that night and the rest is history,

    Not as bad as many others listed, but dissapointing all the same for a man who prides himself on his word at times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,213 ✭✭✭✭therecklessone


    eagle eye wrote: »

    And of course the most hated man for Spurs fans right now.


    Not even close.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,335 ✭✭✭smackbunnybaby


    the Roy Keane to Blackburn is a total non-runner!
    Traitors in my eyes are players that have actually played at the club and moved to another - RK never even played at Blackburn and was never a player for them.

    Sure David Hirst is supposed to have signed for Man Utd around 93 or 94 but backed out, pretty much sitting with oen in hand to sign.he is hardly a traitor in man utd fans eyes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,645 ✭✭✭Daemos


    El Hadji Diouf. Doesn't stay anywhere for too long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,455 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    DaPoolRulz wrote: »
    El Hadji Diouf. Doesn't stay anywhere for too long.
    wouldn't say that makes him a traitor - makes him a merc if anything, but not a traitor. Not comparable to people like Campbel, Cole or Figo, for instance.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    The thing about the Roy Keane and Blackburn thing was that Keane had agreed a verbal deal, He was at Ewood on the Sunday i think it was, and Blackburn had no Secretarial staff available. Keane said he would sign in the morning,

    At this stage he decided he could never play for such a badly organised club and the deal was dead.
    Fergie contacted him that night and the rest is history,

    Not as bad as many others listed, but dissapointing all the same for a man who prides himself on his word at times.


    Michael Laudrup did a Figo long before Figo but seems to have been forgiven.


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Heinze.
    Along with Ince and Schmeichel.


  • Registered Users Posts: 448 ✭✭jimmyboy


    Kenny Miller


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,455 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    PORNAPSTER wrote: »
    Along with Ince and Schmeichel.

    Wouldn't agree with Schmeichel - as far as I remember e even spoke to Fergie about the City deal before he went there. I honestly don't see how he could be called a traitor, just for playing for City. He didn't screw United over, he didn't force a move to City, he did and really said nothing bad imo. Schmikes will always be a United legend imo, never a traitor. I'm surprised anyone would think of him as a traitor, tbh.


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Wouldn't agree with Schmeichel - as far as I remember e even spoke to Fergie about the City deal before he went there. I honestly don't see how he could be called a traitor, just for playing for City. He didn't screw United over, he didn't force a move to City, he did and really said nothing bad imo. Schmikes will always be a United legend imo, never a traitor. I'm surprised anyone would think of him as a traitor, tbh.
    Did you happen to catch his celebrations when City (one of our fiercest enemies* in football) beat United 3-1 at Maine Road? Celebrating with the same fans that were singing about Munich all game long.

    True legends don't do that, take Denis Law for example.

    Schmeichel was a legend while playing for United. But, when he went back on his word of "never playing for another English club" and then went on to play for City of all teams and celebrate a goal or goals like he did for City against United he became a traitor for me.

    This is coming from a guy whose first United jersey was a goalkeepers jersey with Schmeichel on the back. I really felt sick that day.


    *have to refrain from the word "rival" as everybody would die laughing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,909 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    PORNAPSTER wrote: »
    Did you happen to catch his celebrations when City (one of our fiercest enemies in football) beat United 3-1 at Maine Road? Celebrating with the same fans that were singing about Munich all game long.

    True legends don't do that, take Denis Law for example.

    Schmeichel was a legend while playing for United. But, when he went back on his word of "never playing for another English club" and then went on to play for City of all teams and celebrate a goal or goals like he did for City against United he became a traitor for me.

    This is coming from a guy whose first United jersey was a goalkeepers jersey with Schmeichel on the back. I really felt sick that day.

    Good times

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  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Memories eh Xavi? ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,909 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Most definitely


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,206 ✭✭✭gustavo


    In recent times I suppose Sean Connor would have to figure highly.


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