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Diceicle

In relation to the issue of people getting less than friendly responses with regards to script tattoos, whether in English or in a foreign language, my own stance on this is two-fold.

Firstly, there are umpteen stories online of tattoos not meaning what people think, someone wanting 'peace' tattooed on them and getting 'shopping-cart' etc. or in some cases the 'kanji' tattoos that are just jibberish, they mean nothing at all. I'm sure there are plenty of asians around Europe having a sly chuckle at our expense.
So I always tell people to be careful and try to get a native speaker to translate for you.

Secondly, as a tattoo, certain script tattoos are quite chavish, I realise I sound like a tattoo-snob saying that, so I'll clarify.

Every month, and I've only been posting a few, there seems to be someone, not heavily "into" tattooing who'll come on here "looking for X (sons name, whatever) tattooed in Olde English on my forearm", if I feel that the poster hasn't considered all the options I'll try to open there eyes to whats out there, or if I feel they're copying a celebrity I'll do the same. When I was first getting into tattoos I thought that Old School, Neo-tribal and Darkwave was the be all and end all in tattoos. Its certainly not. Visiting BME and just browsing portfolios opened my eyes to the possibilites out there, and I try to do the same for others. If that makes me a snob then so be it. If after that sctipt is what they want I'll try to help them as much as I can.

As an addition to the olde englsish script tattoo phenomenon, new posters should read some older posts before posting, chances are questions have been asked and answered. I know before I ask anything on any forum I'll do a quick search.

To tackle the point that, being Irish, getting script in Arabic (for example) is the same as getting a Koi, I have to disagree. The Koi, while japanese originally, is an image with a deep history in tattooing, it has meanings (many meanings depending on colour, direction etc) that transcend nationality. You can understand with a certainty what the tattoo means and is saying, in many many cases, the same cannot be said for foreign script.

Sorry for the long post.

Crumble Froo

Raze_them_all wrote: »

I slag stars because I hate them with a passion. People are running like crazy to get them because there a fad, I also hate my cousins kanji he got and my sisters

so warn the person they're really common, no need to slag them. ive got stars too, got them 2-3 years ago, when i was 18. decided when i was 12 and knew sweet feck all about tattoos that i wanted a specific star design done, and when i was 18, i got it done, as id decided when i was 12. nothing at all to do with any fads. just what i wanted. im prepared to give other people the benefit of the doubt as to whether they want them for their own personal reasons, or to go with a fashion trend.

*dolly*

theres also a huge difference between letting someone know that the chances of them getting an accurate translation of a foreign script on the net or even in a tatto parlour in ireland is highly unlikely, and slating them for wanting a foreign script in the first place.

Léan

Don't like OTB much. Think it's pointless tbh.

The threads going "Where can I go in ____ to get a tattoo/piercing?" are highly annoying, there's a sticky and a search function, it's not that difficult to use... But I know nothing can really be done about it. Just really grinds my gears.

Other then that I think the forum is very well run and informative.

RxQueen

Léan wrote: »

Don't like OTB much. Think it's pointless tbh.

The threads going "Where can I go in ____ to get a tattoo/piercing?" are highly annoying, there's a sticky and a search function, it's not that difficult to use... But I know nothing can really be done about it. Just really grinds my gears.

Other then that I think the forum is very well run and informative.

every part of boards, has an otb section


as do most other site i stalk ! :pac:!

Léan

emo!! wrote: »

every part of boards, has an otb section

Not true, can think of loads of forums off the top of my head here that don't have an otb section.

RxQueen

and i can prolly match that firgure with the amount that do and more

hot2def

I don't really bother with otb, I think yo have to dedicate too much time to it inorder to have any sort of meaningful conversation, because it moves so fast...

Léan

hot2def wrote: »

I don't really bother with otb, I think yo have to dedicate too much time to it inorder to have any sort of meaningful conversation, because it moves so fast...

Exactly.

I just don't get the point in it. The way i see it is the forum is called 'Tattoos & Piercings', therefore talk about that. If you want to talk about something else there are countless numbers of other forums on this site by which you can do so. Or if you're really bothered add whoever it is you want to talk to or whatever on MSN ffs.

Hellrazer

Léan wrote: »

Exactly.

I just don't get the point in it. The way i see it is the forum is called 'Tattoos & Piercings', therefore talk about that. If you want to talk about something else there are countless numbers of other forums on this site by which you can do so. Or if you're really bothered add whoever it is you want to talk to or whatever on MSN ffs.

+1

I dont get it either--its like you post there,drive home from work and the thread has moved on by 5/6 pages and youve forgotten what you posted.
Unless youre sitting in front of your PC 24/7 you cant keep up with it.And then theres only so many days when I want to know what someone had for lunch/breakfast/dinner etc.

I personally find it boring.

The way I see it is that OTB has kind of taken over the forum.
More like the otb forum than Tattoos and Piercings.

And while other fora do have off topic banter threads I dont think any of them actually go as far as being the only thread with new posts in the forum when you log on in the morning which Ive seen happen on more than one occasion.

RxQueen

maybe lock it then , instead of bitching about it

hot2def

Hellrazer wrote: »

And while other fora

WOOHOOOOOOO correct plural

Hellrazer

emo!! wrote: »

maybe lock it then , instead of bitching about it

Ah no need for that tone of voice now.
The thread is about feedback on how the forum is going--I cant stick the OTB thread,others like it--its an opinion thats all.

Diceicle

OTB isnt somewhere I go really tbh, the main reason being that I come here to find out about tattoo news, give whatever advice I feel competent to give and find out about any new artist thats worth a look.
OTB can be a bit mad I have to say, people talking in Lolcatz style etc, not really my thing, but to each their own. With the conversation always running there, kind of like and IRC channel, it can be awkward to get into. Its sort of like going up to a group of strangers in the pub who are mid-conversation and shouting "HI".
I couldnt really care whether its open or locked as I don't frequent it.

longshanks

a lot of talk here about certain styles being fads, stars and kanji to name two. but everything ever is a fad at some stage be it music, art, comedians, food, vespas, whatever. something has a small dedicated following, it gains popularity and then all of a sudden its slated by the supposed taste makers as being populist commercial rubbish.
which is kind of ironic when it comes to groups who claim to be open to all and non conformist blah blah etc.
i know all this cos i'm really cool and i've been into everything two years before the rest of ye. right now i'm rocking the sioux indian in winter look and listening to, wait for it, tapes. they're well overdue a comeback

RxQueen

Hellrazer wrote: »

Ah no need for that tone of voice now.
The thread is about feedback on how the forum is going--I cant stick the OTB thread,others like it--its an opinion thats all.

gald to see your taking into consideration the tone of voices in post

Kersmash

Hellrazer wrote: »

The way I see it is that OTB has kind of taken over the forum.
More like the otb forum than Tattoos and Piercings.

Completely agree with this. I post in there occasionally to say hello but it's rare I'd stay for long these days. I find it derails this forum completely. I mean, for a Tattoo and Piercings forum you'd expect more talk about Tattoos and Piercings considering the high amount of traffic.

rain on

longshanks wrote: »

right now i'm rocking the sioux indian in winter look and listening to, wait for it, tapes. they're well overdue a comeback

strangely enough a guy I know has just annnounced that he's going to start a tape distro. what are the odds?

on topic.. I like OTB because it keeps all the crap in one place and makes it easier for me to avoid

Hellrazer

emo!! wrote: »

gald to see your taking into consideration the tone of voices in post

Smart arse!!:D

RxQueen

Hellrazer wrote: »

Smart arse!!:D

why i do try ! :pac:!

Crumble Froo

what would happen if OTB was to be locked for a fortnight, and then review the situation?

see how it impacts the rest of the forum.

jenizzle

TBH I liked the OTB thread. While it did take over a li'l, it actually got me posting in this forum. I guess thats because I was around for the start of it though.

Maybe we should have a newbies question thread? Where people who only want to ask the "where can I get X done?" can go to? Everyone has to start somewhere, and I think locking those threads straight away isn't very helpful to the person who is looking for the info.

E.g. Just say I only moved to Cork, and I'm looking to get a Maori style tattoo, I wouldn't have a notion of where to start looking for info except on a tattoos and piercings forum. I could search through the Piercers and tattooists thread but a lot of the info is donkey's years old and not relevant.

I'm ranting :rolleyes:

marti101

I have to say i like this forum very helpful friendly and honest.But like whats been said too many people maybe being too honest.If some one comes here looking for advice it should be given but slagging them of for their personel choice in a tattoo is a no no imo.Like stars and khanji ive both and to me i like them i dont care if anyone else doesnt.Theres no such thing as a completely original tattoo they all take their inspiration from something that has been done beforehand.So just get down from the high horse and if you dont like any styles thats down to you but no need to ram your opinion down everybodys throat your word is not law.Also back sear modding agh bain of my life just report it and stop dragging it off topic.

jenizzle

Any opinion on moving the "best place for piercings in Dublin" thread to the Questions thread or am I being a neat freak?!

Diceicle

Would it be worthwhile to have a sticky of regularly recommended / useful links? I would be thinking of something in the same style as the artist gallery thread. Links such as:

www.bmezine.com
http://www.hanzismatter.com/

and controversially

http://arabictattoo.wordpress.com/
:pac:

Good idea? Waste of time? Unmanagable? Useful?