Life Festival

[cm]tyranny

[cm]tyranny wrote: »

The gas thing about FSOL was that they pulled this exact same stunt off ten years ago (a huge string of ISDN type gigs) and since this is the 15th anniversary of the ISDN album I'm pretty sure it's all they actually want to do...

Forgive my ignorance, but thought this was the only way FSOL ever play live, via ISDN linkup. They did it in the mid 90s, dropped it for 10 years, and just started it again afaik.

jonny68

I'm pretty sure FSOL played live at some smaller Raves or Festivals in the early/mid 1990's,i actually didn't know they were going to play via ISDN @ BLOC,i thought they would be live and while some people liked it it appears quite a lot didn't, and this ISDN thing at a festival is just a no no, i mean all you've to do is bring along a big sound system with visuals yourself and you've got pretty much the same thing.

Even if they were to just play an Ambient set id love that, id stock up on weed and that would be me happy but this ISDN is a no no and Life should try and get them to actually come over and play live.

nah_biy!

F**k this, I got the ticket on the basis (actually supposition at the time) that FSOL would headline it. The line up is very decent by and large but this might be too much for me, I don't know.

I'll have to talk to the lads at length. FSOL were the main draw for me, neutronyx this extremely sneaky on your part. First Andrew Weatherall slips off the line up (another monster draw for me) and now the lads can pretty much press play like Justice and pretend to play live/dj if they so wish.

g5fd6ow0hseima

nah_biy! wrote: »

F**k this, I got the ticket on the basis (actually supposition at the time) that FSOL would headline it. The line up is very decent by and large but this might be too much for me, I don't know.

I'll have to talk to the lads at length. FSOL were the main draw for me, neutronyx this extremely sneaky on your part. First Andrew Weatherall slips off the line up (another monster draw for me) and now the lads can pretty much press play like Justice and pretend to play live/dj if they so wish.

Where did Andrew Weatherall disappear to? Im just after noticing his name is gone off the website.

Well, at least we still have Caspa, Leger, Craig and Mulero to keep us happy.

nah_biy!

Siena Jolly Switch-hitter wrote: »

Where did Andrew Weatherall disappear to? Im just after noticing his name is gone off the website.

Well, at least we still have Caspa, Leger, Craig and Mulero to keep us happy.

As you well know they were pretty much the basis for me going. Utter joke.

g5fd6ow0hseima

Sure what else will we be at that weekend. Better spend the bank holiday there than on the piss in Cork etc.

But is this not all a bit like buying a ticket to the Who and saying 'What do you mean no Keith Moon? What a rip off'. Or saying Pink Floyd ripped off their fans in 1980 because they played behind a wall.

It's what they do. There is no stroke pulled or trickery.

Zascar

Looks like I'm going to this now too.

Not really sure what to expect but a good crew of mine going to will be fun no matter what anyway. As long as I get to see Carl Craig I'll be happy...

nah_biy!

Deleted User wrote: »

But is this not all a bit like buying a ticket to the Who and saying 'What do you mean no Keith Moon? What a rip off'. Or saying Pink Floyd ripped off their fans in 1980 because they played behind a wall.

It's what they do. There is no stroke pulled or trickery.

Not entirely sure, why would Life advertise that it's their first ever live gig in Ireland. It's a screen, they'r in England. Does that mean Sky News is live in Ireland too?

The Andrew Weatherall situation is even more bizarre. Who else will get pulled that's the question.

JC 2K3

Life is more about partying for 3 days straight than the acts tbh.

Don't get me wrong, having top quality artists playing all around you is one of the key things that makes Life so great, but going specifically to see certain acts shouldn't be the main focus.

Zascar

Totally agree! I had one of the most enjoyable days of my life at EP last year, we spent the whole day just chilling around a group of tents, laods of people coming and going just having a blast - I can't even remember what gigs I saw that night.

jimi_t

Zascar wrote: »

Totally agree! I had one of the most enjoyable days of my life at EP last year, we spent the whole day just chilling around a group of tents, laods of people coming and going just having a blast - I can't even remember what gigs I saw that night.

Completely agree - lineup is actually quite decent this year compared to last year; I only got around to seeing Deadmau5 and Diplo (although I did set up for the Orb and stayed around backstage for most of their set). Rest of my time was spent coming to in the Tir na gCaiste area in the woods around 6-7am and stumbling back to my tent.

The Thursday night with the soundchecks is really good craic, but I'll never forget the first night (friday) with a seriously heavy dubstep set until about 7am in Tir na gCaiste; every head in the festival emerging shakily out of the woods into the dawn to find three or four hundred people set up in the cinema tent smoking away happily and singing along with 'Dark Side of the Oz'. What a fecking festival!

Bands of note this year are;
ORBITAL
Skream and Benga
Simian Mobile Disco
Fourtet
Zero 7
Jape
2 Many DJs (pure gorgonzola, but always great craic)

neutronyx

Future sound of London are true visionaries, they have a one of the most timeless sound and their music can be enjoyed by people of all ages and that matches exactly with the spirit of Life.
Their way of communication with the outside world is through their music,
The show that they provide deserves all kinds of respect, instead of playing with a laptop or spinning some vinyls, they provide us a full live show using their whole infrastructure of synths, drum machines, vocoders...using the same machines that created their amazing sounds in their studios in early nineteens.,
After 10 years they are performing again a very very limited number of shows in 2009 (and who knows when they will do it again) and headlining some of the biggest events like BLOC festival or Bestival 2009. So i believe that for those who respect and love their music we should not miss this opportunity of enjoying the first (and maybe the last) Future Sound Of London Audio&Visual show in Ireland.

g5fd6ow0hseima

neutronyx wrote: »

Future sound of London are true visionaries, they have a one of the most timeless sound and their music can be enjoyed by people of all ages and that matches exactly with the spirit of Life.
Their way of communication with the outside world is through their music,
The show that they provide deserves all kinds of respect, instead of playing with a laptop or spinning some vinyls, they provide us a full live show using their whole infrastructure of synths, drum machines, vocoders...using the same machines that created their amazing sounds in their studios in early nineteens.,
After 10 years they are performing again a very very limited number of shows in 2009 (and who knows when they will do it again) and headlining some of the biggest events like BLOC festival or Bestival 2009. So i believe that for those who respect and love their music we should not miss this opportunity of enjoying the first (and maybe the last) Future Sound Of London Audio&Visual show in Ireland.

And joining us from their studio all the way over in london (live might I add) are..........

Whats the story with Andrew Weatherall falling off the face of the earth?

Executive Steve

nah_biy! wrote: »

First Andrew Weatherall slips off the line up (another monster draw for me)

In all bloody fairness weatherall hasn't done much of note in the past decade at the very least...

g5fd6ow0hseima

Still the point is that an artist disappeared from the line-up without any announcement to say he was pulling out for one reason or another

jonny68

[cm]tyranny wrote: »

In all bloody fairness weatherall hasn't done much of note in the past decade at the very least...

Not true he has been very busy in fact (Two lone swordsman being just one project)Weatherall is a legend and has played some amazing sets.

jonny68

neutronyx wrote: »

Future sound of London are true visionaries, they have a one of the most timeless sound and their music can be enjoyed by people of all ages and that matches exactly with the spirit of Life.
Their way of communication with the outside world is through their music,
The show that they provide deserves all kinds of respect, instead of playing with a laptop or spinning some vinyls, they provide us a full live show using their whole infrastructure of synths, drum machines, vocoders...using the same machines that created their amazing sounds in their studios in early nineteens.,
After 10 years they are performing again a very very limited number of shows in 2009 (and who knows when they will do it again) and headlining some of the biggest events like BLOC festival or Bestival 2009. So i believe that for those who respect and love their music we should not miss this opportunity of enjoying the first (and maybe the last) Future Sound Of London Audio&Visual show in Ireland.

Indeed they are visionaries, however playing via ISDN just doesn't do it for a crowd and after the technical problems @ BLOC it could end up a very dissapointing gig.

old gregg

mkay kids, so here's a question for some more in touch folks than I ... and I mean that in all honesty. Outside of FSOL on tv the main acts appear to be:
CARL GRAIG - ASTRIX - GREEN VELVET

GOLDIE - SEBASTIEN LEGER - ALTERN 8 - OSCAR MULERO

SPECIAL GUEST - DAYDIN - KINDZAZA - CASPA

so, in 2009 why would you cross the road to see any of these? Of course everyone knows who Carl Craig is and most of the names I've heard of and even taken a mo to check out the myspace links etc but ... not sure how to phrase this .... within their genres, how many of these would be considered top of their game or you know what I mean ... and just for a moment leaving aside all the 'love and peace and festival vibe' good stuff that I've experienced at Life before ... when it comes down to the question of would you drive 200k to see any of these names then who/what floats to the top and says it would be worthwhile.

Just interested and willing to learn from others

g5fd6ow0hseima

old gregg wrote: »

mkay kids, so here's a question for some more in touch folks than I ... and I mean that in all honesty. Outside of FSOL on tv the main acts appear to be:
CARL GRAIG - ASTRIX - GREEN VELVET

GOLDIE - SEBASTIEN LEGER - ALTERN 8 - OSCAR MULERO

SPECIAL GUEST - DAYDIN - KINDZAZA - CASPA

so, in 2009 why would you cross the road to see any of these? Of course everyone knows who Carl Craig is and most of the names I've heard of and even taken a mo to check out the myspace links etc but ... not sure how to phrase this .... within their genres, how many of these would be considered top of their game or you know what I mean ... and just for a moment leaving aside all the 'love and peace and festival vibe' good stuff that I've experienced at Life before ... when it comes down to the question of would you drive 200k to see any of these names then who/what floats to the top and says it would be worthwhile.

Just interested and willing to learn from others

Well the FSOL thing is a ****ing disgrace to be honest, thumbs down to the promoters on all fronts regarding that one. I wouldnt really mind it if had been advertised as an ISDN set as opposed to a live gig - mind you, its what to expect off promoters these days

They were my big act to be honest, I plan on by-passing their gig.

Caspa though, along with Craig, justify my ticket price to be honest. And the drive is about 60 mile, so its not all bad....

Lia_lia

Ha, I had a dream that I was at this last night. And it was a brilliant dream!:D

nah_biy!

old gregg wrote: »

mkay kids, so here's a question for some more in touch folks than I ... and I mean that in all honesty. Outside of FSOL on tv the main acts appear to be:
CARL GRAIG - ASTRIX - GREEN VELVET

GOLDIE - SEBASTIEN LEGER - ALTERN 8 - OSCAR MULERO

SPECIAL GUEST - DAYDIN - KINDZAZA - CASPA

Craig is god, we just strolled over to him at "KidsFest in Kildare" last year and holy sh*t, maybe it was my sunstroke, who knows, but surely that was the best hour of my life, pure banging eat your face off beats. Goldie will be one of the must see acts, the man is a pure and utter artist (just realised the irony) really looking forward to seeing him rip it up. I'm not madly gone on dubstep but Caspa's ability is undoubtable. Such a talent for some one so young too. Aside from that Sebastien Leger is so groove-tastically funkalicious I'll cut off my oxygen supply if I miss him, oh an Altern8 too, almost as infamous as FSOL surely?

neutronyx

New Additions.
Loefah (Digital Mistikz) - Dubstep
Christian Smith - Tech


Plus one whole area for Live Bands (Reggae, world, fusion, ....) HUMAN MUSIC GARDEN.


Bands

Intin - Robotnic - Breakdown Crew - The Hot Sprockets - The Red Lables - Rodeo Clowns - The Rye - New Secret Weapon - The Murder of Crows - Skuzzi Port - Fushion Family - More Tiny Gaints - The Bone Yard Junkies - Erick Noon - Sound of System Breakdown - ByPolar Empire - Sons of Ginger Bread - Mescalito - The Bottom Floor Band - Bovine Frenzy - The Looks - Enda Reilly - Nail Lawlor - Andy Delimer - Brain Kerie - Marus Karus - James Gillmartain - Babys Big Ego - The Pocket Ace's

DJ´s

Kevelartone (New York) - DJ Chanty Lace - The Guilty Boy Acc - Will Softly - Ginger - Bread Dub - Count Burgo - Rob Da Bear

And many more...

and for only 105 + BF 3 days camping .Is the Festival of the present Times!!

Photojoe

Siena Jolly Switch-hitter wrote: »

Well the FSOL thing is a ****ing disgrace to be honest, thumbs down to the promoters on all fronts regarding that one. I wouldnt really mind it if had been advertised as an ISDN set as opposed to a live gig - mind you, its what to expect off promoters these days

They were my big act to be honest, I plan on by-passing their gig.

Caspa though, along with Craig, justify my ticket price to be honest. And the drive is about 60 mile, so its not all bad....

What difference would it make if they were there?
I thought it was grand myself, quite interesting actually. I think lots of people just weren't into the music.

g5fd6ow0hseima

Photojoe wrote: »

What difference would it make if they were there?
I thought it was grand myself, quite interesting actually. I think lots of people just weren't into the music.

Well its interesting, but still shambolic.

Two fellas playing in their studio in London, hundreds of people in a field in Westmeath looking at screens. Just wonderful isnt it?

Executive Steve

hardly the promoter's fault mate, that's just what FSOL do

bit rich calling a promoter greedy when you're getting all of the above for 105 euro for a three day camping ticket too, in all fairness... that's a third of the cost of EP and it won't be nearly as full of annoying yuppies...

Photojoe

[cm]tyranny wrote: »

hardly the promoter's fault mate, that's just what FSOL do

bit rich calling a promoter greedy when you're getting all of the above for 105 euro for a three day camping ticket too, in all fairness... that's a third of the cost of EP and it won't be nearly as full of annoying yuppies...

Steve I don't know where you've learned your maths but EP is not €315.

Life is relatively cheap for an Irish festival but still **** expensive compared to the rest of Europe.

red dave

Photojoe wrote: »

Life is relatively cheap for an Irish festival but still **** expensive compared to the rest of Europe.

I'd imagine Ireland, been a tiny spec across an ocean on the outskirts of Europe incur a higher cost for transport of dj's, bands, etc that festivals in mainland Europe would not have.

€105 for 3 days is class IMO

Zascar

It's been done to death, yes European festivals are ridiculously cheap in comparison but there are mamy factors that contribute to it. €100 for a 3 day camping event with some great acts is still pretty good I think.

g5fd6ow0hseima

[cm]tyranny wrote: »

hardly the promoter's fault mate, that's just what FSOL do

bit rich calling a promoter greedy when you're getting all of the above for 105 euro for a three day camping ticket too, in all fairness... that's a third of the cost of EP and it won't be nearly as full of annoying yuppies...

Yeah, but they could have advertised it as an ISDN set instead of saying its their 'first time in Ireland', when really, they've yet to come!

Yuppies - Brilliant

Executive Steve

old gregg wrote: »

mkay kids, so here's a question for some more in touch folks than I ... and I mean that in all honesty. Outside of FSOL on tv the main acts appear to be:
CARL GRAIG - ASTRIX - GREEN VELVET

GOLDIE - SEBASTIEN LEGER - ALTERN 8 - OSCAR MULERO

SPECIAL GUEST - DAYDIN - KINDZAZA - CASPA

so, in 2009 why would you cross the road to see any of these? Of course everyone knows who Carl Craig is and most of the names I've heard of and even taken a mo to check out the myspace links etc but ... not sure how to phrase this .... within their genres, how many of these would be considered top of their game or you know what I mean ... and just for a moment leaving aside all the 'love and peace and festival vibe' good stuff that I've experienced at Life before ... when it comes down to the question of would you drive 200k to see any of these names then who/what floats to the top and says it would be worthwhile.

Just interested and willing to learn from others

well i'd go for goldie, carl craig, oscar mulero and loefah from digital mystikz (who should have his name and caspa's swapped on the lineup out of respect IMO)... RSD in the Dubstep Tent is Rob Smith from Smith and Mighty, also Neil Landstrum is playing at this...


the rest of the names are psytrance heads, and while that's a closed book to me they're pretty big names in that scene (the first hit on a google for "psy trance" is an astrix video, like)

A_Fitz

Anyone know if there's any reggae soundsystem playing??

jonny68

Life is a great festival no doubt mores the pity FSOL are playing via ISDN a massive letdown by all accounts (live or nothing) but im sure it'll be deadly all the same although i cant make it but ill be at the EP to see the legendary Orbital.;)

neutronyx

Worries Outernational

A_Fitz

neutronyx wrote: »

Worries Outernational

Sweet!

FensterDJ

by the by,

if you wanna check out my breaks set from the Breakology tent last year, it's available here

http://postbocks.com/uploads/fenster-fenster-life-festival-08-wwwbreakologyie

Tracklisting/Details:

Fenster – Life Festival 08
www.breakology.ie
1. Leftfield – Inspection (Precision Cuts Mix) – Bootleg
2. Kultur – Don’t Panic – Sold Out Breakz
3. Peter Paul – Reverendo (Deep Impact Mix) – Lot49
4. Ben and Lex – Wind It Back – Silo
5. Dave Dub – Band Camp Deluxe (Myagi Mix) – DSV
6. Autobots – Flesheaters (General Midi Mix) – Broke
7. Chris Carter – Bottyfunk – En:vision
8. Cut n Run – Liquid –Bootleg
9. DJ Defkline and Red Polo – Collie Budz – Bootleg
10. DJ Rapid – Crank – Bassrock
11. Far Too Loud – You Know The Sound – Funkatech
12. Humanoid – Stakker Humanoid (Plump DJs Mix) – Jumpin and Pumpin

Zascar

There are a lot of acts and DJ's I've never heard of on this lineup, can anyone tell me who would be godo to go see from a techno/house/tech house/minimal side of things?

JC 2K3

FSOL cancelled. Not on site any more. Confirmed on the Life forum.

Zascar

JC 2K3 wrote: »

FSOL cancelled. Not on site any more. Confirmed on the Life forum.

Link?

JC 2K3

http://www.neutronyx.net/life/forum_life/smf/index.php?topic=2514.0

forumlife wrote:

FSOL show planned for Friday 22:00 was always via ISDN as that is the only way they do it since 1997. To be honest we though we could convince them to come to ireland.
Problems with the ISDN lines and all the technical requirements will make that not possible for Life Festival (If any other promoter wants to try we would help them as much as we can). Apologies but can not be possible for us.
If you were thinking about coming to Life just to see FSOL live, we advise you to wait a bit and you might see that show in a club indoor soon in Ireland.

Zascar

That's ridiculous. I mean seriously, in this day and age it can not be that difficult to broadcast a gig over the internet etc.

How in the hell anyone booked them, but only Now finds out that technically they can not do it??? There is something not right there...

Was gonna have to really work on persuading the wife this weekend, I just couldn't miss FSOL. Now my reason for having to go is gone, though still would really like to make it, plenty of other acts.

Shulgin

Ah well, plenty more to see and do rather than watch some lazy feckers through their ISDN link.

Hopefully the weather will be ok.

nah_biy!

Awfully organised festival just keeps getting worse and worse.

But hey, it's in a great location?

Oh right, so "playing live in Ireland for the first time" implied FSOL would be by ISDN, as if I needed a condescending promoter to tell me that. How is it not possible, all you need is a friggin' modem and line. Eircom will lob you one for €100, heck, I'll come up there and set the thing up myself!

Please. If you didn't realise the local phone exhange wasn't updated you're as thick as the castle walls.

Andrew Weatherall's sneaking off the line up of course still hasn't been explained.

A week to the festival and this nugget comes out, hmmmm, I'm sure you flogged plenty of extra tickets for it and all eh?

Pathetic. Don't bother giving me this "there's loads of other acts too" bollix. The event was selling itself on an extraveganza of FSOL.

g5fd6ow0hseima

If Mantua was going ahead this year, id be flogging my ticket for Life and headin to that instead......

Sadly though, barring E.P. , which is gettin worse every year, there is nothing else of offer in terms of alternative festivals here this summer.

Considering that it was always going to be an ISDN set, im not wholly bothered, but as the previous posters have spoken of, im baffled that the standard requirements for the hosting of a set of thus type should have been fully investigated and met prior to any approach.

This doesnt look good for the promoters whatsoever!

JC 2K3

Neutronyx aren't the most organised promoter in the world, but they put on great club nights and a great festival.

It's not an excuse for canceling the headliner a week before the show, I know. But Life Festival has never been about specific acts, it's about a big, insane party with great music for 3 days.

gigitygigity

Nay Biy, stop you're fecking moanin will ya! A three day camping festival for €100? where else would you get that in Ireland

1. Life is not a corporate sponsored festival like ******/EP, so they dont have huge amounts of money to employ people to run around like headless chickens! all the work is done by a small group of people!

2. Dont blame life for FSOL being wierdos! Im actually glad they're not coming now, there's loads better acts like Altern 8. For any of you that know much about music, Altern 8 will be the highlight of the weekend, dont miss it!

3. The crowd at this festival is not like your other festivals, its laid back with no chavs/skoobies/skangers!

4. In my previous camping festivals, ive only ever managed to see 3-4 acts the whole weekend! ive alwasy missed the ones i wanted to see, so stop your moanin!

5. Its all about the general experience, meeting new people, partyin with you mates!

For €100, €140 less than EP, you cant go wrong!

So do me a favour, stop your bitchin, go to the festival and then tell us what you think after!

gigitygigity

nah_biy! wrote: »

Pathetic. Don't bother giving me this "there's loads of other acts too" bollix. The event was selling itself on an extraveganza of FSOL.

so the event was selling itself just cos FSOL were expected to play? walofs! extravaganza my arse, have you ever listened to their music? you really are a noob!

nah_biy!

gigitygigity wrote: »

so the event was selling itself just cos FSOL were expected to play? walofs! extravaganza my arse, have you ever listened to their music? you really are a noob!

Says the lad registered a day! Baseless comment really as I'd have a decent knowledge of a large proportion of acts, particularly the Cork DubCulture crownd.

nah_biy!

My issue is the slyness of it all.