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UK: 'Three strikes and out' is silently dropped. But what next for piracy?

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  • 06-03-2009 7:32pm
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    http://www.samknows.com/broadband/news/three-strikes-and-out-is-silently-dropped-but-what-next-for-piracy-523.html

    The BPI has confirmed to SamKnows that although there has been no official statement, it has ditched its call on ISPs to warn, warn again and then disconnect illegal file shares – the so called ‘three strikes and out’ approach.

    Whilst it claims to have never used the phrase associated with the practice, a spokesperson for the record industry’s right holders group revealed it now sees the way forward as working with the record industry to instigate a ‘graduated warning’ system. In this throttling a connection should be a consideration and, despite the past policy of trying to enforce ‘three strikes and out’ on ISPs being dropped, disconnection should still be considered in discussions as “a final sanction”, the BPI insists.

    The partially placatory move towards agreeing a common solution comes after the Digital Britain interim report by Stephen Carter made no reference to ‘three strikes and out’ as a workable means of dealing with piracy and instead suggested a Rights Agency is set up so rights holders, distributors and ISPs can thrash out a solution that is amenable to all.

    Hence the BPI spokesperson revealed its focus is now on forming this body and suggesting how piracy can be dealt with against the startling backdrop of illegal downloads outnumbering legal purchases by twenty to one.

    “Skin in the game”

    For intellectual property lawyer, Alexander Brown, who represents both rights holders and several ISPs as a partner at law firm Simmons and Simmons, the ditching of ‘three strikes and out’ is a welcome move but, he concedes, the record industry still has to realise it is asking ISPs to risk a lot for no reward.

    “I think Carter’s suggestion of the Rights Agency is basically him suggesting to the right holders that they’ve got to give the ISPs some skin in the game,” he says.

    “You can’t expect to release unprotected material and then have the ISPs who don’t profit from its sale round up suspects for you. They’ve quite rightly been thinking what’s in it for them? All they’re being asked to do is increase the risk of churn and alienate their users and they get nothing in return at a time when they’re desperate to hold on to their customers.”

    For the time being the BPI is content with nearly all the major ISPs issuing educational letters to subscribers whose accounts have been linked to illegal file sharing. However, the body is adamant that this is just an initial testing of waters to see if it does hold back sharing; ultimately, a ‘graduated warning’ is needed.

    It believes the process of rights holders going to the courts to enforce ISPs to reveal contact details for people suspected of file sharing is fine in principle but it becomes difficult when the numbers are so high. Hence, the need for a joint new initiative.

    ISPs happy with court orders

    However, the feedback from the ISP community is that they prefer the court order approach. Certainly Felix Geyr, Managing Director of Be Broadband recently summed up the situation to SamKnows as ISPs not wanting to accuse their users of illegal activity, preferring right holders to take the legal route which gives an ISP no alternative other than to provider a user’s details. It mitigates any concern over data protection and demonstrates that the information was not volunteered but was supplied in accordance with a court order.

    According to Alexander Brown this attitude will prevail until the rights holders find some way of cutting the ISPs in on the proceeds of online distribution. Although the BPI is adamant that the Digital Britain report was right in suggesting all parties should contribute financially to the setting up of a Rights Agency, Brown believes this will be unworkable unless the ISPs are incentivised by either rights holders funding the protection of their material or setting up music shops in which ISPs are stakeholders.

    “It’s one thing to sue Pirate Bay or, back in the day, Napster because there is clearly a case to answer, the sites are there to allow illegal downloads,” he says.

    “To involve ISPs whose pipes are used for these downloads is just crazy and they’re not going to do what the record industry wants unless they’re incentivised by rights holders funding the potential Rights Agency or the record labels cutting them in on distribution. They basically need to do broadband equivalents of the Nokia Comes With Music phone. It’s the only way it’s going to work. Otherwise the ISPs will just say they’re happy to receive court orders and let the rights holders continue to pick up the expense of the legal action.”

    In the meantime, as discussions over the make-up of a potential Rights Agency are discussed, attention will turn to the record labels suing the founders of Pirate Bay in Sweden. The founders face large fines if the notorious file sharing site is found guilty of helping web users share, what the defence claims as, millions of pounds worth of copyrighted material.

    Although a guilty verdict would shut the site down the fear is that many sites would simply spring up in its place, as was the case when the illegal version of Napster was shut down nine years ago.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 124 ✭✭Phier


    Only heard about this now. Thought they could get away with having less than the enough people there to vote.


    "The French Assembly has rejected the Three Strikes bill which would allow
    ISPs to cut off users found to have been downloading protected content
    after two warnings. Summary, the Sarcozy administration can go back with a
    new draft for approval by both chambers or try to get upper house approval
    of a softer version without the cutoff passed by the lower house."

    http://url.ie/1fhn

    Translation:

    The Parliament rejected, Thursday April 9, after a negative vote of l'
    National Assembly, the creation bill and Internet which envisaged to
    sanction the illegal downloading. By a show of hands, a majority of
    deputies rejected the text resulting from joint industrial commission
    (CMP), then qu' he had been voted earlier in the morning by the Senate.
    This rejection surprised s' explain by l' absence of many deputies at
    the time of the vote. Part of the UMP elected officials voted for, but
    two deputies of the majority - Jean Dionis of Stay (NC) and Nicolas
    Dupont-Aignan (independent, ex-UMP) - however voted against, with l'
    opposition. With final, 15 deputies voted for and 21 against. Deputies
    of the majority protested against the hardening of the text in joint
    industrial commission, under the pressure of the Senate. " WE CARRIED
    OUT a BATTLE DE CHIEN" The CMP had indeed restored the " double peine" ,
    thus named by the adversaries of this measurement, expect that the Net
    surfers sanctioned for illegal downloading, after two warnings, continue
    to pay their subscription, even once their connection suspended for one
    two months duration to one year. " C' is formidable. We carried out a
    battle of chien" , the deputy Jean-Pierre Brard reacted. " Once more l'
    is seen; amateurism of the government and the minister of lacCulture,
    the UMP" group; , for its part Mr. Dupont-Aignan commented on. The vote
    at the Parliament was regarded as a formality after the meeting of the
    CMP, at the beginning of week. L' essence of the bill examined for
    several months has aimed at creating an High ranking authority for the
    diffusion of works and the protection of the Internet laws (Hadopi).
    Seizure by the companies d' authors or the tax collectors of rights
    which will have located an illegal downloading, it will be charged to
    implement a " counteract gradu<E9>e" , going d' a simple warning by email
    with the temporary cut of l' access to Internet. A NEW VOTE AFTER THE
    HOLIDAYS The government from now on will make pass by again the text
    with l' Parliament and with the Senate, announced Roger Karoutchi. "
    This vote delays l' adoption of the text, that does not block it pas" ,
    he declared with l' AFP, specifying that this procedure had been
    validated by Francois Fillon. " This text will of course be voted in any
    case. One will do it with the re-entry holidays parlementaires" from
    Easter, which begin this Thursday evening and last jusqu' at Tuesday
    April 28. The government will not be able however not to represent the
    same text exactly. It will have to represent the last version of the
    text validated by l' Parliament, before her passage by the joint
    industrial commission. The commission had in particular removed the
    possibility, for a Net surfer who would see his suspended connection, to
    cease paying his subscription. Mr. Karoutchi denounced " acts of
    flibuste" left, which consists with " to hide members of Parliament and
    to insert them in l' hemicycle qu' once the vote called to denature
    reality d' a debate and d' a vote. C' is a bad blow with artistic
    creation, c' is a bad blow for the French artists. C' is a manner of
    discussing and of voting the law which is completely aberrant. I
    consider that c' is unworthy of the Parliament and R<E9>publique" , he
    affirmed.


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