** Police officer shot dead in Armagh

Dannyboy83 · 10-03-2009 12:46am #1

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/7933990.stm
Police officer shot dead in town

A police officer has died following a shooting incident in Craigavon, County Armagh.
The incident is understood to have happened near Lismore High School at Brownlow.
Police came under attack while investigating suspicious activity near the school.
The attack follows the weekend murder of two soldiers outside an Army base in Antrim. The Real IRA said they were responsible for that shooting.
Sappers Mark Quinsey, 23, from Birmingham and Patrick Azimkar, 21, from London, were shot dead at Massereene Army base, Antrim.
The soldiers were killed as they accepted a pizza delivery at about 2120 GMT on Saturday.
Four other people, including two pizza delivery men - Anthony Watson, 19, from Antrim and a Polish man in his 30s - were injured in that attack.

I hope to God its not what we think it is!

Dannyboy83 · 10-03-2009 12:51am

Theres also been a pipe bomb found outside a Sinn Fein office and police are nearby Lurgans police station for a reported suspicious object.

Not been reported if the police officer was a Catholic but the RIRA were rumoured to be targeting these people for defecting to the PSNI. Its been rumoured they felt too many Catholics had joined the PSNI.

If it turns out to be a retaliation, thats even worse news.

segaBOY · 10-03-2009 1:02am

Absolutely disgusting, this just sickens me.

Alessandra · 10-03-2009 1:03am

This is very worrying, I suspect the worst. 1 step forward and 2 steps back. Ireland is not a good place at the moment.

allthedoyles · 10-03-2009 1:08am

Very worrying development.........I hear on Sky News quote ' 2 British Soldiers have been killed on the streets of the United Kingdom ' unquote

Surely this type of reporting will not help

segaBOY · 10-03-2009 1:09am

allthedoyles wrote: »

Very worrying development.........I hear on Sky News quote ' 2 British Soldiers have been killed on the streets of the United Kingdom ' unquote

Surely this type of reporting will not help

Tabloid Sky News at it's best-they show their top 10 youtube videos of the day after that report? Don't have anytime for their new "shock" style of reporting, very low brow.

yoshytoshy · 10-03-2009 1:10am

allthedoyles wrote: »

Very worrying development.........I hear on Sky News quote ' 2 British Soldiers have been killed on the streets of the United Kingdom ' unquote

Surely this type of reporting will not help

Sky news are as bad as Max clifford with stuff like this.
God help the people up there ,as if things weren't bad enough for everyone at the moment.

FTA69 · 10-03-2009 1:20am

There'll be scalps over this. The Brits are going to hit hard at a number of groups as a result of these actions.

Our man in Havana · 10-03-2009 1:27am

allthedoyles wrote: »

Very worrying development.........I hear on Sky News quote ' 2 British Soldiers have been killed on the streets of the United Kingdom ' unquote

Surely this type of reporting will not help

They are correct, it is the United Kingdom.

Dannyboy83 · 10-03-2009 1:36am

FTA69 wrote: »

There'll be scalps over this. The Brits are going to hit hard at a number of groups as a result of these actions.

Its nothing to do with the Brits.

If the RIRA have killed Catholics..............we have a civil war (between the nationalists***).

I'm not saying civil war in Northern Ireland - between the PIRA and the RIRA/CIRA.

segaBOY · 10-03-2009 1:37am

Bond-007 wrote: »

They are correct, it is the United Kingdom.

Correct they may be, but adding fuel to the fire doesn't help imo.

Liam Byrne · 10-03-2009 1:37am

Dannyboy83 wrote: »

Not been reported if the police officer was a Catholic

As it shouldn't be.....who cares ? Someone's dead.

As for the "part of the UK" reporting; factually correct.

segaBOY · 10-03-2009 1:38am

Dannyboy83 wrote: »

Its nothing to do with the Brits.

If the RIRA have killed Catholics..............we have a civil war.

Death threats where sent to catholic PSNI officers, basing "civil war" on religion is a bit far imo, after all the Polish pizza lad who was shot is more than likely a catholic?

Dannyboy83 · 10-03-2009 1:40am

segaBOY wrote: »

Death threats where sent to catholic PSNI officers, basing "civil war" on religion is a bit far imo, after all the Polish pizza lad who was shot is more than likely a catholic?

Its not on the basis of religion mate.

If the Shinners and PIRA are pro-treaty, then the RIRA are anti-treaty.
That treaty being the Good Friday agreement.

There is a power struggle and the RIRA are trying to undermine Adams, Sinn Fein and the PIRA.

segaBOY · 10-03-2009 1:43am

Dannyboy83 wrote: »

Its not on the basis of religion mate.

If the Shinners and PIRA are pro-treaty, then the RIRA are anti-treaty.
That treaty being the Good Friday agreement.

So you mean civil war between the RIRA and a non existent PIRA as such?

jayteecork · 10-03-2009 1:45am

Jesus.

Sounds like the **** is in the process of hitting the fan up there.

Our man in Havana · 10-03-2009 1:46am

Indeed, it does.

kerry4sam · 10-03-2009 1:49am

Sincere condolences to his family and colleagues. I for one am seriously worried this will escalate too fast for anything to be done soon enough to put breaks on what could unfold

Pangea · 10-03-2009 1:54am

Is it the RIRA that killed this officer?

segaBOY · 10-03-2009 1:55am

Pangea wrote: »

Is it the RIRA that killed this officer?

Noone has claimed responsibility yet

FTA69 · 10-03-2009 1:58am

Dannyboy83 wrote: »

Its nothing to do with the Brits.

Of course it has. Don't be silly, it'll be the British government and the British Army and intelligence elite who will be dictating the response to these recent events.

If the RIRA have killed Catholics..............we have a civil war.

What are you on about? The Reals killed two Brits and a PSNI member, religion doesn't factor into it at all. That having been said, a Loyalist reaction is possible, but it has sh*te all to do with "killed Catholics".

KevR · 10-03-2009 1:59am

Dannyboy83 wrote: »

Not been reported if the police officer was a Catholic but the RIRA were rumoured to be targeting these people for defecting to the PSNI. Its been rumoured they felt too many Catholics had joined the PSNI.

Not having a go at you but I just have to say who the **** do the IRA think they are?! Catholics (and people of any other religion) in the Republic of Ireland and the United Kingdom can have any occupation they want; it's none of the IRA's business.

Terrible events tonight and on Saturday. Condolences to the families, friends and colleagues of the deceased.

Dannyboy83 · 10-03-2009 2:01am

FTA69 wrote: »

Dannyboy83 wrote: »

Of course it has. Don't be silly, it'll be the British government and the British Army and intelligence elite who will be dictating the response to these recent events.

What are you on about? The Reals killed two Brits and a PSNI member, religion doesn't factor into it at all. That having been said, a Loyalist reaction is possible, but it has sh*te all to do with "killed Catholics".

Loyalist reaction??

Do you know what the Good Friday agreement is?

Our man in Havana · 10-03-2009 2:03am

Dissident loyalist reaction.

Dannyboy83 · 10-03-2009 2:03am

KevR wrote: »

Not having a go at you but I just have to say who the **** do the IRA think they are?! Catholics (and people of any other religion) in the Republic of Ireland and the United Kingdom can have any occupation they want; it's none of the IRA's business.

Terrible events tonight and on Saturday. Condolences to the families, friends and colleagues of the deceased.

Just to clarify - the RIRA were involved in the attacks on the two soldiers (when I say soldiers, they were 2 unarmed, off duty, Engineers and 1 of them jumped on the Polish Pizza man to save his life).

Don't get confused.
The PIRA haven't broken the ceasefire.

We don't know who did this yet.
Its best to wait until it gets confirmed before we speculate anymore I suppose.

sylvestersuntan · 10-03-2009 2:03am

Mass unemployment, sensless killing north of the boarder.
All the old memories of life during the 80's and early 90's in Ireland are coming flooding back, and I dont like it!
The next few years are gonna be some shock to the system for anyone under 25!

sylvestersuntan · 10-03-2009 2:06am

IRA?
You might want to check your facts their boss.........

KevR wrote: »

Not having a go at you but I just have to say who the **** do the IRA think they are?! Catholics (and people of any other religion) in the Republic of Ireland and the United Kingdom can have any occupation they want; it's none of the IRA's business.

Terrible events tonight and on Saturday. Condolences to the families, friends and colleagues of the deceased.

sean11 · 10-03-2009 2:12am

segaBOY wrote: »

Tabloid Sky News at it's best.
Typical SKY News, they are so trashy now. Wait till you see as soon as someone farts in NI it will be a bomb!!

KevR · 10-03-2009 2:24am

sylvestersuntan wrote: »

IRA?
You might want to check your facts their boss.........

What facts might these be?

I commented on what DannyBoy83 said about the RIRA 'feeling' that too many Catholics are joining the PSNI. I don't think they have any right to 'feel' this way - as I said, it's not any of their business what people decide to have as their occupation. I didn't say they were responsible for tonight's killing. Whether they were or they weren't, they have no right to 'feel' anything (never mind inflict violence on people) because of their chosen career path.

Are you being knarky that I wrote IRA instead of RIRA or did you misread my post and think that I pointed blame at someone before anything has been confirmed? I honestly don't know why you took exception..

Zambia · 10-03-2009 2:29am

sylvestersuntan wrote: »

Mass unemployment, sensless killing north of the boarder.
All the old memories of life during the 80's and early 90's in Ireland are coming flooding back, and I dont like it!
The next few years are gonna be some shock to the system for anyone under 25!

Yes we do seem to be hurtling toward our nations child hood with more expensive tastes.

That pesky tourism industry needed killing off.

Dannyboy83 · 10-03-2009 2:44am

KevR wrote: »

What facts might these be?

I commented on what DannyBoy83 said about the RIRA 'feeling' that too many Catholics are joining the PSNI. I don't think they have any right to 'feel' this way - as I said, it's not any of their business what people decide to have as their occupation. I didn't say they were responsible for tonight's killing. Whether they were or they weren't, they have no right to 'feel' anything (never mind inflict violence on people) because of their chosen career path.

Are you being knarky that I wrote IRA instead of RIRA or did you misread my post and think that I pointed blame at someone before anything has been confirmed? I honestly don't know why you took exception..

Important that you understand this clearly mate:
The IRA are totally different to the PIRA or the RIRA or whoever use the letters IRA.

IRA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Republican_Army
http://www.corkcity.ie/aboutcork/historyofcork/theburningofcork/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Potato_Famine

P-IRA:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_Irish_Republican_Army
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1972)

R-IRA:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_IRA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omagh_bombing

Read the links and make your mind up.

Anyone who knows Irish history will be *frustrated* if you mistake the IRA with the R-IRA

** Police officer shot dead in Armagh

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