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  • Registered Users Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Exile 1798


    Alright junder I promise you can keep your Beatles CD's.:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭futurehope


    TomRooney wrote: »
    K-9 wrote: »


    the IRA of any kind never had state backing or state funding or arming or training. the loyalists would never have existed if not for the british state backing them with arms, training, and inteligence.

    this statement is a major exaggeration, partition came into being less than 90 years ago, and for about 60 of those years the unionists loyalists had no opposition to there gerrymandered state, so 30 years would be a more accurate time fror unionist/loyalist defiance against eqaul rights and recognition that they Live in a Land originaly inhabited by Irish people.

    The IRA of any kind never had state backing or state funding or arming or training? You can't be serious. The Provos were set up with the help of politicians and other leading members of The Irish state. They supplied arms, cash and early in the troubles members of The Irish Army helped train them. From what I gather the aim was to move The IRA from socialist agitation in The South to sectarian war in The North. In any case, wasn't Libya a state? The Provos couldn't have done without their massive assistance.

    The loyalists would never have existed if not for the british state backing them with arms, training, and intelligence? Ulster was armed in 1912 primarily using weapons bought by Unionists and brought in by Crawford - 36000 German rifles I believe. The British state played no role in this. Of course, they had huge backing from The British public and from key British establishment figures, but I suspect this would happen again if an independent Ulster was to be formed.

    Recognition that they Live in a Land originally inhabited by Irish people? What does this mean? The plantation took place 400 years ago. According to your theory Wolfe Tone should have been ejected as a planter! In addition, all whites, blacks, hispanics should now leave America, or at least accept Comanche and Apache rule.

    :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭futurehope


    TomRooney wrote: »
    i have talked to alot of unionists, i believe the only way a re-united Ireland would work is if it was set up as a federal Republic, with provincial governments, and local councils, that way the unionists would still have a certain level of autocrisy but whitin a United Ireland.
    Unionists have shown a lot of interest in this concept.

    No they haven't.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    TomRooney wrote: »
    your entire post is nothing but Myth based speculation and scare mongering.

    Guess thats the easiest way of dealing with those possibilities with a republican head in the clouds view of this island.

    Have you ever lived in a Unionist majority area? Though I'm starting to doubt if you've ever stepped foot in Northern Ireland with some of your attitudes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭Diogenes


    Tom Rooney wrote:
    the IRA of any kind never had state backing or state funding or arming or training

    Yeah again this one sticks in the craw.

    Do you remember the Arms Crisis from 1970? £50,000 punts of Irish state money sent to the IRA to buy arms. Oh how about the several shipments of arms from the Libyan government that amounted to several tonnes of weapons?

    Not to mention ETA, Columbian FARC.


    So Tom, shall we a basic ignorance of the history of the conflict, to your inability to add, combined with your rotten grasp of statistics, as well as your anecdotal claims about hardline unionists willingness to join a federal Irish state?

    Or are you just going to deny the Libyan connection?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭Diogenes


    Have you ever lived in a Unionist majority area? Though I'm starting to doubt if you've ever stepped foot in Northern Ireland with some of your attitudes.

    A few years ago, I was staying with a friend of mine in a Unionist neighbourhood, literally up against the wall of the old H&W shipyard. There was no question of me leaving my RoI "D" reg car on the street, over the weekend, it'd have never lasted the Saturday night.

    Instead I left it in multistory near the concert hall. After 24 hrs I dropped into the car park to check up on it, and was stopped by security, I told them I was just checking up on my car. I was asked "Whats the registeration sir?" I went " Well it's 98 D 1..", The guard replied "Oh the Dublin golf, yes Sir we had our eye on it".

    Yeah, unionists are just aching to be part of a united Ireland.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭junder


    Exile 1798 wrote: »
    Alright junder I promise you can keep your Beatles CD's.:D

    personly not a huge fan of the beatles, more a pink floyd man myself ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 929 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    "Or are you just going to deny the Libyan connection?"

    No to mention the help from their friends in the United States and the former Soviet Bloc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭TomRooney


    ilkhanid wrote: »
    Quote
    "this statement is a major exaggeration, partition came into being less than 90 years ago,..."

    And the loyalists were preparing to resist it as far back as 1900.

    "...and recognition that they Live in a Land originaly inhabited by Irish people."

    Funny, I thought they were Irish too. If it happened 400 years ago, it does'nt matter any more.

    "Unionists have shown a lot of interest in this concept. "

    Which ones?


    "So one terrorist organisation existed just fine without state backing, funding, or training. The other couldn't exist without all of the above."

    You have to understand the thinking behind this. By "republican" reasoning, Loyalists/Unionists are bigoted,evil,cowardly weaklings. Not like the brave, stoic,ingenious and self-reliant nationalists. They are incapable of doing anything for themselves without the help of Perfidious Albion...except engage in acts of sectarian wickedness and treachery.

    the IRA HAD ABSOLUTELY NO SUPPORT FROM EITHER THE FREE STATE GOVERNMENT OR THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT.
    In fact the IRA came under severe state harrasment from the free state government and the british government.

    whereas the loyalists had support from british intelligence services, who supplied them with intel, weapons and training.
    without the support of the british government the loyalists would be very unlikely to be able to organise a tea party let alone a sustained armed campaign, lets not forget world opinion does not favour the unionist/loyalist position in regards Ireland and it is highly unlikely the loyalists would recieve any meaningful support outside there little enclaves, the IRA in comparison had substantial international support from the USA to Lybia even the president of france charles de gaule named a street in paris after Bobby Sands.
    therefore it is almost certain there would no real possibility of loyalists mounting any kind of meaningful campaign, any little thing they may start would soon fizzle out.

    the IRA stem from an old organisation of resistance they were well trained and disciplined just like the IRB, and the Fenians before them, the IRA did not just appear in the late 60`s, the free state government of today trace there origin back to the IRA. to compare military effectiveness or abilty between the loyalists scum bags and the IRA is Ludicrous.


    the loyalists were nothing but sectarian bigoted thugs whos only motivation was to kill as many catholics as they could.


  • Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭TomRooney


    Diogenes wrote: »
    Yeah again this one sticks in the craw.

    Do you remember the Arms Crisis from 1970? £50,000 punts of Irish state money sent to the IRA to buy arms. Oh how about the several shipments of arms from the Libyan government that amounted to several tonnes of weapons?

    Not to mention ETA, Columbian FARC.


    So Tom, shall we a basic ignorance of the history of the conflict, to your inability to add, combined with your rotten grasp of statistics, as well as your anecdotal claims about hardline unionists willingness to join a federal Irish state?

    Or are you just going to deny the Libyan connection?

    first of all by state i presumed it would be obvious to you i meant free state or british state , secondly the amrs crisis was a one off and was not realy anything substantial all that achieved was the free state to become even more repressive to the Republicans to prove to there puppet masters the brits that they realy were good lap dogs.

    the free state government have a long history of assasinating Republicans, and Locking them up on trumped up charges, to pretend for a seconf the IRA has any kind of substantial support from the free state government is nothing but pure ignorance of reality.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭TomRooney


    Diogenes wrote: »
    Yeah again this one sticks in the craw.

    Do you remember the Arms Crisis from 1970? £50,000 punts of Irish state money sent to the IRA to buy arms. Oh how about the several shipments of arms from the Libyan government that amounted to several tonnes of weapons?

    Not to mention ETA, Columbian FARC.


    So Tom, shall we a basic ignorance of the history of the conflict, to your inability to add, combined with your rotten grasp of statistics, as well as your anecdotal claims about hardline unionists willingness to join a federal Irish state?

    Or are you just going to deny the Libyan connection?


    why would anyone deny the IRA had popular support on the international scene, it only further highlights how little support the unionist/loyalists have.

    along with Libya other supporters of the IRA include, members of the US house of congress, many US senators both irish american and non irish american, french politicans supported the irish claim to the 6 countys also.
    i could go on and on all day.

    but i cant think of one country that showed any support for loyalists scum other than the british government that is.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭junder


    TomRooney wrote: »
    why would anyone deny the IRA had popular support on the international scene, it only further highlights how little support the unionist/loyalists have.

    along with Libya other supporters of the IRA include, members of the US house of congress, many US senators both irish american and non irish american, french politicans supported the irish claim to the 6 countys also.
    i could go on and on all day.

    but i cant think of one country that showed any support for loyalists scum other than the british government that is.


    Loyalist scum, mind defining exactly who the loyalist scum are since i would see myself as a loyalist?


  • Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭TomRooney


    junder wrote: »
    Again, Bull****, i am a unionist and i can tell you that we have no interest in a united ireland ferderal or otherwise. You can thank people like yourself for that lack of interest. since you only prove our fears that we would not be respected in your united ireland. Your posts show an incredably immature view of northern ireland, (to much time listerning to romantic republican songs in bars me thinks). Going by what you have thus far posted its obvious that the actule unionists you have spoken to is 0. That border you like to bang on about is not just a line drawn on a map, its in most unionists hearts and minds.
    I can promise you this, force us into a united ireland you will galvinise almost entire unionst community into 1 single block (unlike the splintered a factured mess it is now) with 1 purpose in mind, and don't think its the UVF and UDA you would have to worry about, they are just a bunch of cowboys. Its the large body of miltary trained and combat experinced personel who have served or have served in the army that you need to worry about. If you want your united ireland your going to have to work very hard to pursade us that its good for us and our identy will be protected, that includes our orange traditions, that includes our marching band traditions, that includes our loyality to the united kingdom, as things stand you can't even stomach a vist from our head of state in the RoI at the moment, thats hardly an example of respect, we have your preisdent calling us nazis, thats hardly an example of respect now is it. Now i understand that this is not the viewpoint of the vast amount of people in the RoI, most like us in northern ireland just want to get on with our lives in peace, and that we are more interested in how we are going to keep our heads above water in this current economic crisis, its just ashame that there is still to many people with atiutudes like tomroony for us to properly move on


    hahaha you make me laugh, the loaylists/unionists could not organise an oil change in a garage.

    your inbred hatred is evident in your humorous threat, but none the less pathetic, to claim your position is that of every unionists is nothing short of foolishness and ignorance of the highest accord.

    there will be a united Ireland one day wheter you like it or not, you best come to terms with the idea because its coming and theres nothing you or your ilk can do about it. once the british government turn there backs on you completly you will have no choice but to fall into line.

    and your little brigade of drug dealing un-disciplined drug fuled louts will be snuffed out in an instant if they try any kind of nonesense.


  • Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭TomRooney


    junder wrote: »
    Loyalist scum, mind defining exactly who the loyalist scum are since i would see myself as a loyalist?

    Loyalist Scum: one who takes drugs regularly,

    goes about killing innocent unarmed catholics in a pretense of protecting there gerrymandered state.

    have been known to sport a tattoo of a red hand somewere on there body with the words "simply the best" in bold lettering above or below it.

    take direction from there handlers in the Mi5.

    full of revisionist history, no real culture of there own other than banging drums and shouting sectarian rants once a year.

    largly involved in criminality, including but not limited to, Drug dealing, prostitution, robbery, assasinations and general thuggery.

    examples, Billy king rat wright, mad dog Adair, micheal stone, gusty spence, john bingham, leslie dallas, John McKeague,

    and all the following,

    Ulster Volunteer Force and Protestant Action Force
    Red Hand Commando
    Ulster Defence Association and Ulster Freedom Fighters
    Loyalist Volunteer Force
    Red Hand Defenders
    Ulster Protestant Volunteers
    Orange Volunteers
    Red Branch Knights
    Ulster Resistance


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭Diogenes


    TomRooney wrote: »
    why would anyone deny the IRA had popular support on the international scene, it only further highlights how little support the unionist/loyalists have.

    along with Libya other supporters of the IRA include, members of the US house of congress, many US senators both irish american and non irish american, french politicans supported the irish claim to the 6 countys also.
    i could go on and on all day.

    but i cant think of one country that showed any support for loyalists scum other than the british government that is.


    So you were boasting about little support the IRA had from;
    You wrote:
    the IRA of any kind never had state backing or state funding or arming or training

    Now you're bragging about how much state support the IRA had.

    I'll say one thing about you Tom you're consistent in your inconsistency.


  • Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭TomRooney


    Diogenes wrote: »
    So you were boasting about little support the IRA had from;



    Now you're bragging about how much state support the IRA had.

    I'll say one thing about you Tom you're consistent in your inconsistency.


    i was boasting about how little support the IRA had whitin Ireland, while the unionists/loyalists enjoyed state support from britain.

    the reference to international support highlights how popular the Republican position is, and how unpopular the unionist position is.

    try reading the posts next time instead of jumping the gun with your reactionary emotional outbursts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭junder


    TomRooney wrote: »
    Loyalist Scum: one who takes drugs regularly,

    goes about killing innocent unarmed catholics in a pretense of protecting there gerrymandered state.

    have been known to sport a tattoo of a red hand somewere on there body with the words "simply the best" in bold lettering above or below it.

    take direction from there handlers in the Mi5.

    full of revisionist history, no real culture of there own other than banging drums and shouting sectarian rants once a year.

    largly involved in criminality, including but not limited to, Drug dealing, prostitution, robbery, assasinations and general thuggery.

    examples, Billy king rat wright, mad dog Adair, micheal stone, gusty spence, john bingham, leslie dallas, John McKeague,

    and all the following,

    Ulster Volunteer Force and Protestant Action Force
    Red Hand Commando
    Ulster Defence Association and Ulster Freedom Fighters
    Loyalist Volunteer Force
    Red Hand Defenders
    Ulster Protestant Volunteers
    Orange Volunteers
    Red Branch Knights
    Ulster Resistance


    INLA
    RIRA
    CIRA
    PIRA
    IRSP
    IPLO
    Have to say i am shocked that Cuchulainn was invloved in a gang of drug dealers, still you learn something new everyday


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭junder


    TomRooney wrote: »
    hahaha you make me laugh, the loaylists/unionists could not organise an oil change in a garage.

    your inbred hatred is evident in your humorous threat, but none the less pathetic, to claim your position is that of every unionists is nothing short of foolishness and ignorance of the highest accord.

    there will be a united Ireland one day wheter you like it or not, you best come to terms with the idea because its coming and theres nothing you or your ilk can do about it. once the british government turn there backs on you completly you will have no choice but to fall into line.

    and your little brigade of drug dealing un-disciplined drug fuled louts will be snuffed out in an instant if they try any kind of nonesense.


    My 'Brigade' as you call it is the Royal irish and i we don't take drugs. As for what Unionists can orginize, 1912 Ulster volunteer force, ring any bells?
    However Unlike you i am not gung ho, i do not want violence or murder, i have buried to many love ones for that, furthermore unlike you i am not a armchair republican drunk on romantic songs about deeds you were never invloved in, i actully live in northern ireland, in the real world we people had real guns and people really died, sorry to disappoint you but it was never gooies vursus baddies, nobody got up after they were shot, it was not a game.
    I am glad you are a minorty because people like you would tip this island into a civil war that would make the last 30 years look like a walk in the park. Frankly you need to get a grip the little brave internet warrior that you are, you are talking about things of which you know nothing, you are like a child with a box of matchs who who left to thier own devices would set the whole houise on fire.


  • Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭TomRooney


    futurehope wrote: »
    TomRooney wrote: »
    The Provos were set up with the help of politicians and other leading members of The Irish state. They supplied arms, cash and early in the troubles members of The Irish Army helped train them.

    any tiny bit of credibility you had has now vanished, i wont even bother refuting this rubbish i would prefer to let you go on in your foolish mythical ignorance.

    but it would be interesting if you could provide proof for this training from the irish army, or setting up of the provisional IRA considering the provos came into existance through a split with the official IRA are you saying the 26 county government orchestrated this...? show us some proof.

    From what I gather the aim was to move The IRA from socialist agitation in The South to sectarian war in The North. In any case, wasn't Libya a state? The Provos couldn't have done without their massive assistance.

    from you gather...? so this is just your opinion....i see now i know why it is complete bull****
    The loyalists would never have existed if not for the british state backing them with arms, training, and intelligence? Ulster was armed in 1912 primarily using weapons bought by Unionists and brought in by Crawford - 36000 German rifles I believe. The British state played no role in this. Of course, they had huge backing from The British public and from key British establishment figures, but I suspect this would happen again if an independent Ulster was to be formed.

    the british government consistantly provided weapons and training and intelligence reports to the loyalist murder sqauds and used them to carry out assasinations, ever heard of collusion...? by the way the loyalists/unionists at no time ever had popular support from the british people in general.
    Recognition that they Live in a Land originally inhabited by Irish people? What does this mean? The plantation took place 400 years ago. According to your theory Wolfe Tone should have been ejected as a planter! In addition, all whites, blacks, hispanics should now leave America, or at least accept Comanche and Apache rule.

    you have a seriously flawed interpretation of what Republicanism is, nobody ever said they wanted unionists to leave Ireland, they are welcome to stay, the problem occurs when the unionists try to claim any part of Ireland is part of the british United Kingdom.

    by unionists Logic, the polish could declare an enclace of Ireland to be be actualy part of Poland, and in 400 years we should all just accept that it is the case.

    in the words of that blow hard reprobate paisley, NEVER NEVER NEVER.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭junder


    TomRooney wrote: »


    you have a seriously flawed interpretation of what Republicanism is, nobody ever said they wanted unionists to leave Ireland, they are welcome to stay, the problem occurs when the unionists try to claim any part of Ireland is part of the british United Kingdom.

    .
    Erm, actully you did


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  • Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭TomRooney


    junder wrote: »
    INLA
    RIRA
    CIRA
    PIRA
    IRSP
    IPLO
    Have to say i am shocked that Cuchulainn was invloved in a gang of drug dealers, still you learn something new everyday

    thats a fine list of Republican freedom fighters you have there.

    as for Chuchulainn, to claim he is anything to do with the modern day unionism is complete tripe, he is a figure in IRISH mythology.


  • Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭TomRooney


    junder wrote: »
    Erm, actully you did

    no i did not, show me were i ever said i wanted unionists to leave IRELAND.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭junder


    TomRooney wrote: »
    thats a fine list of Republican freedom fighters you have there.

    as for Chuchulainn, to claim he is anything to do with the modern day unionism is complete tripe, he is a figure in IRISH mythology.


    who was involved in the red branch knights, it was you that brought them up not me


  • Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭TomRooney


    junder wrote: »
    My 'Brigade' as you call it is the Royal irish and i we don't take drugs. As for what Unionists can orginize, 1912 Ulster volunteer force, ring any bells?
    However Unlike you i am not gung ho, i do not want violence or murder, i have buried to many love ones for that, furthermore unlike you i am not a armchair republican drunk on romantic songs about deeds you were never invloved in, i actully live in northern ireland, in the real world we people had real guns and people really died, sorry to disappoint you but it was never gooies vursus baddies, nobody got up after they were shot, it was not a game.
    I am glad you are a minorty because people like you would tip this island into a civil war that would make the last 30 years look like a walk in the park. Frankly you need to get a grip the little brave internet warrior that you are, you are talking about things of which you know nothing, you are like a child with a box of matchs who who left to thier own devices would set the whole houise on fire.

    HAHAHAHA, keep your emotional out bursts to yourself please.

    the RIR are a gang of murdering scum, nothing but dirt in my opinion, and further more there is nothing Irish about them, they are a regiment of no hopers good for nothings, who had no choice but to join the british army coz they lacked the intelligence to get a real job.

    as for your civil war it would never happen in a million years, you are a dreamer and over emotional at that.

    and if it was ever to happen the loyalists would not last pissing time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭junder


    junder wrote: »
    INLA
    RIRA
    CIRA
    PIRA
    IRSP
    IPLO
    Have to say i am shocked that Cuchulainn was invloved in a gang of drug dealers, still you learn something new everyday
    TomRooney wrote: »
    no i did not, show me were i ever said i wanted unionists to leave IRELAND.

    As i recall you words were along the lines if unionist don't want to accept bein irish they can leave. I can sure somebody will be able to furnish you with the exact quote soon


  • Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭TomRooney


    junder wrote: »
    who was involved in the red branch knights, it was you that brought them up not me

    the red branch knights refered to by me, regard a bunch of scumbag loyalists who have little understanding of history so they adopted a very inappropriate name for themselves.

    unless chuchulain was around in the 90`s was he...?


  • Registered Users Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    TomRooney wrote: »
    the loyalists would never have existed if not for the british state backing them with arms, training, and inteligence.

    Not true, Gusty Spence etc.?

    They may have received help from them, but to say that loyalists would never have existed without them is crap.
    TomRooney wrote:
    this statement is a major exaggeration, partition came into being less than 90 years ago, and for about 60 of those years the unionists loyalists had no opposition to there gerrymandered state, so 30 years would be a more accurate time fror unionist/loyalist defiance against eqaul rights and recognition that they Live in a Land originaly inhabited by Irish people.

    Yep, I said 100 years, partition is nearly 90 years, the UVF Gun running was 1912 IIRC.
    futurehope wrote: »

    The IRA of any kind never had state backing or state funding or arming or training? You can't be serious. The Provos were set up with the help of politicians and other leading members of The Irish state. They supplied arms, cash and early in the troubles members of The Irish Army helped train them. From what I gather the aim was to move The IRA from socialist agitation in The South to sectarian war in The North. In any case, wasn't Libya a state? The Provos couldn't have done without their massive assistance.

    The loyalists would never have existed if not for the british state backing them with arms, training, and intelligence? Ulster was armed in 1912 primarily using weapons bought by Unionists and brought in by Crawford - 36000 German rifles I believe. The British state played no role in this. Of course, they had huge backing from The British public and from key British establishment figures, but I suspect this would happen again if an independent Ulster was to be formed.

    Recognition that they Live in a Land originally inhabited by Irish people? What does this mean? The plantation took place 400 years ago. According to your theory Wolfe Tone should have been ejected as a planter! In addition, all whites, blacks, hispanics should now leave America, or at least accept Comanche and Apache rule.

    :rolleyes:

    For some reason the quote from Tom came out as being me. If you see this please edit it if you can. Appreciated.
    TomRooney wrote: »
    the IRA HAD ABSOLUTELY NO SUPPORT FROM EITHER THE FREE STATE GOVERNMENT OR THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT.
    In fact the IRA came under severe state harrasment from the free state government and the british government.

    whereas the loyalists had support from british intelligence services, who supplied them with intel, weapons and training.
    without the support of the british government the loyalists would be very unlikely to be able to organise a tea party let alone a sustained armed campaign, lets not forget world opinion does not favour the unionist/loyalist position in regards Ireland and it is highly unlikely the loyalists would recieve any meaningful support outside there little enclaves, the IRA in comparison had substantial international support from the USA to Lybia even the president of france charles de gaule named a street in paris after Bobby Sands.
    therefore it is almost certain there would no real possibility of loyalists mounting any kind of meaningful campaign, any little thing they may start would soon fizzle out.

    the IRA stem from an old organisation of resistance they were well trained and disciplined just like the IRB, and the Fenians before them, the IRA did not just appear in the late 60`s, the free state government of today trace there origin back to the IRA. to compare military effectiveness or abilty between the loyalists scum bags and the IRA is Ludicrous.


    the loyalists were nothing but sectarian bigoted thugs whos only motivation was to kill as many catholics as they could.

    Think Iran has one too and maybe Libya. Great bedfellows.
    TomRooney wrote: »
    first of all by state i presumed it would be obvious to you i meant free state or british state , secondly the amrs crisis was a one off and was not realy anything substantial all that achieved was the free state to become even more repressive to the Republicans to prove to there puppet masters the brits that they realy were good lap dogs.

    the free state government have a long history of assasinating Republicans, and Locking them up on trumped up charges, to pretend for a seconf the IRA has any kind of substantial support from the free state government is nothing but pure ignorance of reality.

    Can you list this history please?
    TomRooney wrote: »
    why would anyone deny the IRA had popular support on the international scene, it only further highlights how little support the unionist/loyalists have.

    along with Libya other supporters of the IRA include, members of the US house of congress, many US senators both irish american and non irish american, french politicans supported the irish claim to the 6 countys also.
    i could go on and on all day.

    but i cant think of one country that showed any support for loyalists scum other than the british government that is.

    Barring a few rosy minded Irish Americans politicians, very few Americans did. The big politicians only supported it to get a name in history, not support for the cause.
    TomRooney wrote: »
    hahaha you make me laugh, the loaylists/unionists could not organise an oil change in a garage.

    your inbred hatred is evident in your humorous threat, but none the less pathetic, to claim your position is that of every unionists is nothing short of foolishness and ignorance of the highest accord.

    there will be a united Ireland one day wheter you like it or not, you best come to terms with the idea because its coming and theres nothing you or your ilk can do about it. once the british government turn there backs on you completly you will have no choice but to fall into line.

    and your little brigade of drug dealing un-disciplined drug fuled louts will be snuffed out in an instant if they try any kind of nonesense.

    Pot calling kettle black. Suppose our brigade of bank robbing, Gardai and PSNI murdering louts, who think they are big men, will sort them out.
    TomRooney wrote: »
    Loyalist Scum: one who takes drugs regularly,

    goes about killing innocent unarmed catholics in a pretense of protecting there gerrymandered state.

    have been known to sport a tattoo of a red hand somewere on there body with the words "simply the best" in bold lettering above or below it.

    take direction from there handlers in the Mi5.

    full of revisionist history, no real culture of there own other than banging drums and shouting sectarian rants once a year.

    largly involved in criminality, including but not limited to, Drug dealing, prostitution, robbery, assasinations and general thuggery.

    examples, Billy king rat wright, mad dog Adair, micheal stone, gusty spence, john bingham, leslie dallas, John McKeague,

    and all the following,

    Ulster Volunteer Force and Protestant Action Force
    Red Hand Commando
    Ulster Defence Association and Ulster Freedom Fighters
    Loyalist Volunteer Force
    Red Hand Defenders
    Ulster Protestant Volunteers
    Orange Volunteers
    Red Branch Knights
    Ulster Resistance

    Oh this is fun.

    Republican scum:
    Goes about killing innocent unarmed civilians in bars and covers it up. Also like killing unarmed Gardai if they get in the way of robberies, though they've been known to kill the odd armed one.

    Of course they'll say it wasn't IRA sanctioned but later claim release under a political agreement.

    Tattoos and Celtic Jersey wearing? Tick.

    Revisionist history? Tick

    Criminality? Bank robbers. Tick.


    Diogenes wrote: »
    So you were boasting about little support the IRA had from;



    Now you're bragging about how much state support the IRA had.

    I'll say one thing about you Tom you're consistent in your inconsistency.
    TomRooney wrote: »
    i was boasting about how little support the IRA had whitin Ireland, while the unionists/loyalists enjoyed state support from britain.

    the reference to international support highlights how popular the Republican position is, and how unpopular the unionist position is.

    try reading the posts next time instead of jumping the gun with your reactionary emotional outbursts.

    They had support from Libya and massive financial support from abroad too.

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    junder wrote: »
    As i recall you words were along the lines if unionist don't want to accept bein irish they can leave. I can sure somebody will be able to furnish you with the exact quote soon

    i said they should integrate, assimilate or vacate. that is not saying all unionists should leave Ireland, i believe every ethnic minority in Ireland should integrate, unionists are no different to the nigerians,polish and other ethnic minoritys here in Ireland.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭junder


    TomRooney wrote: »
    HAHAHAHA, keep your emotional out bursts to yourself please.

    the RIR are a gang of murdering scum, nothing but dirt in my opinion, and further more there is nothing Irish about them, they are a regiment of no hopers good for nothings, who had no choice but to join the british army coz they lacked the intelligence to get a real job.

    as for your civil war it would never happen in a million years, you are a dreamer and over emotional at that.

    and if it was ever to happen the loyalists would not last pissing time.

    Dear me, seems you are the one gettng emontional, I have never murdered anybody in my life, moreover i am training as a officer and platton commander in prepartion for my tour of aghanistan in 2010 which does require a degree of interlect. Still for a regiment of no hopers we got fine welcome home and we were held in very high esteem by the US marines and others for our support in Afghan


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭junder


    TomRooney wrote: »
    the red branch knights refered to by me, regard a bunch of scumbag loyalists who have little understanding of history so they adopted a very inappropriate name for themselves.

    unless chuchulain was around in the 90`s was he...?

    Oh right sorry my mistake, i did'nt realize you were inventing new loyalist groups


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