LOI "during the season" transfer rumours and gossip thread 2009

gimmick

Thats the spirit

SectionF

Disaster for the league, pure and simple.

Anyone who cares about football and sees this as a positive or uses it as an opportunity to pontificate needs their head examined.

Gavin "shels"

gimmick wrote: »

Thats the spirit

Damn right, Cobh got f*cked about and demoted because of not being fully paid up on the tax front, yet Cork get away with it and are now in deep sh1t on the tax front, why should I or any other fan have sympathy for a club who has been getting special treatment from the FAI and who have been evading the rules which other clubs abide by.

The league needs a team in Cork, but well the league doesn't need a Cork City FC.

LeixlipRed

SectionF wrote: »

Disaster for the league, pure and simple.

Anyone who cares about football and sees this as a positive or uses it as an opportunity to pontificate needs their head examined.

I don't think anyone sees it as a positive occurence. Just Cork fans can't expect fans of other clubs (especially Shels fans) to be full of sympathy after some of the fairly despicable things that were posted by themselves after our demotion and the death of Ollie Byrne.

applehunter

LeixlipRed wrote: »

I don't think anyone sees it as a positive occurence. Just Cork fans can't expect fans of other clubs (especially Shels fans) to be full of sympathy after some of the fairly despicable things that were posted by themselves after our demotion and the death of Ollie Byrne.

Plenty of tar on that brush.

pablomakaveli

LeixlipRed wrote: »

I love the way all they can talk about on the Cork forum is how bitter the Shels fans are.

Yup a whole two posts worth.:rolleyes:

Talk is TC might be leaving though no one really seems to know for sure what the hell is going on or if theres any truth to the rumour that he's leaving.

Cork Rovers is the frontrunner for the next team name if the club does fold.

gimmick

LeixlipRed wrote: »

I love the way all they can talk about on the Cork forum is how bitter the Shels fans are. You reap what you sow and all that lads

ye are the most pontificating shower ever seen. Ye blew it a few years ago, so now ye are all experts on how such things should be handled? Feck off.

LeixlipRed wrote: »

Just Cork fans can't expect fans of other clubs (especially Shels fans) to be full of sympathy after some of the fairly despicable things that were posted by themselves after our demotion and the death of Ollie Byrne.

Are you people deliberately stupid? Because I find it hard to believe that so many people who support one club can be so stupid. Not a single CCFC fan has ever looked for sympathy. FFS, most of us have seen the writing on the wall for a long time and know what sanctions are warranted.

With regard to the Ollie comment, the minutes silence in Turners Cross was impeccably kept. Any CCFC fan I know pretty much never liked the man, but respected the guy to the hilt.

SectionF wrote: »

Disaster for the league, pure and simple.

Anyone who cares about football and sees this as a positive or uses it as an opportunity to pontificate needs their head examined.

If CCFC behave like morons, which under the new ownership has happened, we deserve to be thrown out. Thats a fact. Lets not allow geography skew our judgment

DSB

I, for one, amn't glad about whats happening with Cork, but I agree with what you say at the bottom, in the interest of fairness, they should never have been in the league this year in the first place, things were never sorted. Who knows, they might get sorted next week or the week after, but they definitely weren't sorted when Cork were given a Premier Licence.

LeixlipRed

Someone posed this point on foot.ie and it's extremely worrying. A possible scenario if Cork fold is the promotion of Shels, UCD and SF and the demotion of two regional teams. Leaving the PD to contain 7 Dublin teams (incl. Bray) and 3 others. That would be disastrous really and makes a total mockery of everything the FAI are trying to do.

Töpher

But it would make getting to away games easier...! :pac:

Gavin "shels"

LeixlipRed wrote: »

7 Dublin teams (incl. Bray)

I suggest you invest in a map, Martin.:pac:

Gavin "shels"

Töpher wrote: »

But it would make getting to away games easier...! :pac:

That's no fun though, you can't beat a trip to Galway, Donegal, Cork, etc...

Anto McC

Gavin shels wrote: »

That's no fun though, you can't beat a trip to Galway, Donegal, Cork, etc...

Bollox, i've been to those places many times over so i'll take the Dublin games so i can enjoy a gargle after.

applehunter

Anto McC wrote: »

Bollox, i've been to those places many times over so i'll take the Dublin games so i can enjoy a gargle after.

Yeah we have no pubs in Cork.:rolleyes:

DmanDmythDledge

LeixlipRed wrote: »

Someone posed this point on foot.ie and it's extremely worrying. A possible scenario if Cork fold is the promotion of Shels, UCD and SF and the demotion of two regional teams. Leaving the PD to contain 7 Dublin teams (incl. Bray) and 3 others. That would be disastrous really and makes a total mockery of everything the FAI are trying to do.

If Cork go bust they would effectively take the automatic relegation place. Only max 2 of UCD, Shels and Fingal can go up.

_blank_

DmanDmythDledge wrote: »

If Cork go bust they would effectively take the automatic relegation place. Only max 2 of UCD, Shels and Fingal can go up.

But there are other teams on the verge too, Bohs for one.

Unless the Abbotstown Clown Foundation fudge things again.

Töpher

Gavin shels wrote: »

That's no fun though, you can't beat a trip to Galway, Donegal, Cork, etc...

True, but often I drive because of work and other things, so drinkage goes missing!

Gavin "shels"

Ger Rowe signs for Dundalk

http://www.dundalkdemocrat.ie/3418/C...uad.5171872.jp

gimmick

Dave Rogers sacked by Dundalk????

stovelid

Have any of the Cork lads got updates from court yet?

Roar

stovelid wrote: »

Have any of the Cork lads got updates from court yet?

it's been put back three weeks while City look for some cash to start paying off the revenue. this post was taken from ccfcforum.com

CCFC are safe until June 15th, at least. they hadnt paid the revenue 30 odd grand from the examinership and owe just under 300k. Thats only since the start of the year. Were going to pay off 90k in the next few weeks. Tom was there along with the hottest barrister in the high courts!

SectionF

Tom was there along with the hottest barrister in the high courts!

Good to know that the lawyers will benefit. Now why does that sound familiar?

RebelRockChick

Club statement from corkcityfc.ie:

Club Statement
Monday May 25th 2009

Cork City FC is pleased to confirm that Judge Laffoy today acceded to an application in the High Court by Mr. Olann Kelleher, representing Cork City Investments FC Ltd, for the case under the Companies Act to be deferred in order for the figures concerned to be clarified.

With the club now top of the League of Ireland Premier Division, and facing an eagerly anticipated top of the table clash against Bohemians on Friday night at Turner’s Cross, the club has every confidence that the issue will be resolved in the very near future. The case will be heard again on the 15th of June.

Quint

Wondering if anyone is willing to pick up a free Dave Rogers?

gimmick

Dundalk will probably have to re instate him Id say. The PFAI will see to that.

dreamers75

gimmick wrote: »

Dundalk will probably have to re instate him Id say. The PFAI will see to that.

Or pay out his contract, wouldnt be shocked to see him back with Pats, but shels looking like his next destination as player/coach.

Nalz

I've nothing against it but...

why is there a guy with a big "U is AVIN A LAURF MAYTE" cockney accent introducing the show

"AND DA BIG MAN, DA GUV'NA, FOARMA MANAGAH OF ISLEAND, EOOOWIN 'AND"

very strange!

stovelid

Wonder will Setanta's current predicament have any bearing on the Setanta Cup?

CiaranC

I think there is an effort to spin off the Irish operation, which is supposedly profitable.

gimmick

I think Setanta Ireland is a different entity to their UK counterpart, so the Setanta Cup is still ok. I think.

stovelid

Another postponement in the court today?

Could be looking at a fire sale of players this month?

gimmick

I would imagine the bigger earners will be told they can go for free just to get them off the wage bill. I would like to think the manager might go also. The postponement is for another 4 weeks, by which time all the ticket money for the Ipswich friendly should be in, and the revenue can be paid. Hopefully that will be the end of that.

HalloweenJack

Hopefully, if Cork have learned their lesson this time, it will be the end of that.

gimmick

Tom was there along with the hottest barrister in the high courts!

Just on that

http://www.morgantheagency.com/portfolio.php?id=73#

gimmick

Looks like the June wages have not been paid to CCFC players and staff. I do not think they have been paid in full and/or on tim,e since June 2008. What needs to happen now, is them to strike. Sure , the club will be docked points, but a stand has to be made.

Then, we are all expected to pay €25 to see Roy Keane stand on the sideline in a few weeks time. If the owner does not care anymore, why should we dig him out of another hole?

_blank_

Should be docked points and relegated for next season.

But no, the Abbotstown Circus Foundation will let them off with it. Again.

And nobody can claim "It was the previous owners" - because it ain't this time.

elshambo

Des wrote: »

Should be docked points and relegated for next season.

But no, the Abbotstown Circus Foundation will let them off with it. Again.

And nobody can claim "It was the previous owners" - because it ain't this time.

Clear the wage bill
go down
if they survive
couple of seasons in Div1 with a cheap team full of munster lads, rebuild, come back up, did Shams no harm(?) long term

everyone saw this coming, skint at start of season and still signing players on big wages

Pats, Sligo Rovers,Galway etc cut their cloth and are still struggling

how Bohs and Cork thought they could keep spending and get away with it?:eek:

I hope both clubs survive as when i lived in dublin, went to Bohs games, when i lived in Cork, went ot City games, but the FAI need to start slapping wrists!

Odds of either Bohs or City getting the punishment Dublin City or Cobh would have gotten in same place?:o:(

iregk

gimmick wrote: »

Looks like the June wages have not been paid to CCFC players and staff.

I've been hearing these rumors today alright. Any link for it at all?

gimmick

Des wrote: »

Should be docked points and relegated for next season.

But no, the Abbotstown Circus Foundation will let them off with it. Again.

And nobody can claim "It was the previous owners" - because it ain't this time.

Absolutely obsessed

Zebra3

gimmick wrote: »

Absolutely obsessed

More like:

Absolutely right.

stovelid

gimmick wrote: »

Absolutely obsessed

If the FAI don't act here - and against Bohs - whatever minute shred of dignity the league has left is gone.

pablomakaveli

The FAI just seem to be in denial that there are problems most of the time.

I fell sorry for the likes of Joe Gamble and Danny Murphy and the others that have stuck with the club over the last year.

If we were relegated i reckon we could still get some decent players from the MSL and get back up soon enough.

gimmick

That is what needs to happen - take a few steps backwards in order to take more steps forward at a later date. We would bounce back quicker than most as well I reckon.

_blank_

Here's a decent 20 minute documentary about the LoI

http://vimeo.com/5414266

SectionF

stovelid wrote: »

If the FAI don't act here - and against Bohs - whatever minute shred of dignity the league has left is gone.

On what basis do you want the FAI to act against Bohs, above and beyond the transfer embargo?

bohsman

Season isnt over yet - if we're found to be over the 65% cap at the end, any punishment will be fully justified and you wont see many Bohs fans complaining.

stovelid

bohsman wrote: »

Season isnt over yet - if we're found to be over the 65% cap at the end, any punishment will be fully justified and you wont see many Bohs fans complaining.

Fair enough. Time will tell, I guess.

_blank_

SectionF wrote: »

On what basis do you want the FAI to act against Bohs, above and beyond the transfer embargo?

Send Paddy Madden back to Shels please.

Please.

TheBigLebowski

SectionF wrote: »

On what basis do you want the FAI to act against Bohs, above and beyond the transfer embargo?

Have you read the piece of fiction that is the Bohs Balance Sheet for 2008? I don't know how they got away with that....

gustavo

Apparently we've signed Dean Marshall , probably last seen in Bohs A team , any opinions?