mobile with tv

patnor1011

anyone with some sort of experience with that chinese mobiles from ebay with tv and loads other things... they are very cheap you can get one for 100 usd...

Sam Vimes

Generally the tv service has to be provided by the operator so it wouldn't work here. Vodafone and 3 provide mobile tv services but neither of them have all the channels yous regular tv would have, just what the operators choose to provide

drunkmonkey

Don't some of those Jap phones have arials, can you pick up bog 1 & 2 on them...? like http://cgi.ebay.ie/2-8-TFT-Touch-Screen-TV-Mobile-Phone-1GB-TF-FM-PH-TV888_W0QQitemZ370171909136QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MobilePhones_MobilePhones?hash=item370171909136&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1300|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318 Not sure about the frequencys probably best to ask in the TV forum

I think the jap phone is a really bad idea as if it breaks down you kinda out of repair options...

patnor1011

little update.... I went for it. Got one called F100 FLY-TING. Kind of bar phone. Never saw smaller box, there was user manual, 2 batteries, sd card reader, charger, usb cable, screen shield, 4gb card. Phone operates with 2 sim at once I have o2 and meteor in. Both working together. Phone is packed with everything you can imagine. Good camera, player jaysus dont really want to start mentioning all here. Everything can be found on ebay. The best thing is that tv. That phone has aerial like first phones and I have no problem to pick up rte1, 2, tv3 and tg4... All working perfect when outside or in a place with signal coverage. That tv is for free and I dont need to pay to tv operator for data transfer when watching something through their network. I am very happy with thing and sure there will be little problem when this phone eventually break down but guy give you 6 or 12 months warranty so quite same as any operator here. Another thing is that you can purchase insurance like argos is selling directly from ebay or paypal. And the best thing is that that phone cost me 140 euro all with card charges, postage, I had to pay even VAT but no taxc as it was under 150 euro...

Sam Vimes

Just so you know, since the phone has a tv tuner built in you're legally required to have a tv license :P

Tom Dunne

Sam Vimes wrote: »

Just so you know, since the phone has a tv tuner built in you're legally required to have a tv license :P

You had to go and open that can of worms, didn't you?

It's true, though.....

Back on topic, looks like a cool enough phone.

Davy

Sam Vimes wrote: »

Just so you know, since the phone has a tv tuner built in you're legally required to have a tv license :P

Sorry for dragging off topic again, but sammy is wrong on this one. You do not require a television licence to watch television on your computer or mobile phone. However, you do require a licence if the computer is used together with any other apparatus to receive a signal.

Sam Vimes

Davy wrote: »

Sorry for dragging off topic again, but sammy is wrong on this one. You do not require a television licence to watch television on your computer or mobile phone. However, you do require a licence if the computer is used together with any other apparatus to receive a signal.

I think we've had this conversation before

You need a license for any device that is capable of receiving a telegraphic signal, ie the broadcast tv signal. A computer generally is streaming tv from the internet and so is not receiving a telegraphic signal, a phone is usually streaming over the mobile network and so not receiving a telegraphic signal.

However if you're computer has a tv card with a tv tuner in it, it does require a tv license and this phone also requires a license because it also has a tv tuner. A tv card counts as "any other apparatus". Really it's a portable tv and adding phone functionality to it doesn't exempt you from the license

Tom Dunne

Sam Vimes wrote: »

I think we've had this conversation before

You need a license for any device that is capable of receiving a telegraphic signal, ie the broadcast tv signal. A computer generally is streaming tv from the internet and so is not receiving a telegraphic signal, a phone is usually streaming over the mobile network and so not receiving a telegraphic signal.

However if you're computer has a tv card with a tv tuner in it, it does require a tv license and this phone also requires a license because it also has a tv tuner. A tv card counts as "any other apparatus". Really it's a portable tv and adding phone functionality to it doesn't exempt you from the license

Correct.

Quote:

Every household, business or institution in Ireland with a television or equipment capable of receiving a television signal (using an aerial, satellite dish, cable or other means) must have a television licence.

Source.

Rossmd

Doesn't the N96 have a tv tuner? I think its the N96...maybe its the N95?

Davy

Rossmd wrote: »

Doesn't the N96 have a tv tuner? I think its the N96...maybe its the N95?

Yes the N96 does. dvb-h

Ok from the webpage it says that, but the minister has said before they are not interested in licences for mobiles phones.

Rossmd

So an N96 can pick up RTE1, RTE2, TV3 and TG4?

Davy

Rossmd wrote: »

So an N96 can pick up RTE1, RTE2, TV3 and TG4?

Not yet. Its broadcasts on a different spectrum. It will be launched in the next year starting in the main city's.

Tom Dunne

Rossmd wrote: »

So an N96 can pick up RTE1, RTE2, TV3 and TG4?

Technically, yes, but it's not that straight forward.

The TV standard supported by that model is DVB-H, which I don't believe any operators provide in this country (read: it's useless to you in Ireland). It's not the same as the phone above, which basically has an ordinary analogue TV built into the phone.

Think of it kinda' like your mobile phone having a built-in Sky/Chorus/NTL box, vs. your mobile phone just having a TV and an ariel (as is the case with the phone in the original post).

Rossmd

But how is the DVB-H tuner on the N96 different to the one on the OP's chinese phone?

Davy

Rossmd wrote: »

But how is the DVB-H tuner on the N96 different to the one on the OP's chinese phone?

Think of it like old analogue tv, versus new digital tv.

Tom Dunne

Rossmd wrote: »

But how is the DVB-H tuner on the N96 different to the one on the OP's chinese phone?

Tom Dunne wrote: »

Think of it kinda' like your mobile phone having a built-in Sky/Chorus/NTL box, vs. your mobile phone just having a TV and an ariel (as is the case with the phone in the original post).

Not only is it a different signal type (analogue vs. digital), but it's also a different standard. DVB-H was specifically built for mobile devices (Digital Video Broadcast - Handheld). Analogue TV was built for, em, a TV in your sitting room.

Rossmd

Ok thanks.....so will we ever be able to use the TV tuner on the N96 in Ireland?

Davy

Rossmd wrote: »

Ok thanks.....so will we ever be able to use the TV tuner on the N96 in Ireland?

Yes. Its being worked on at the moment, they will be doing trials in Dublin limerick cork waterford and galway first. Then it will be later rolled accross the whole country. Dont expect it anytime soon though. They did a small pilot a few months ago in dublin.

Sam Vimes

calling what the N96 has a tv tuner is incorrect. It can receive digital signals from a dedicated dvb-h mast that is designed for sending signals to handheld devices, not proper tvs. The H stands for handheld.

flodis79

Rossmd wrote: »

But how is the DVB-H tuner on the N96 different to the one on the OP's chinese phone?

The Chinese phones do not use dvb-h, just a normal receiver for the free to air analogue signals.

patnor1011

yeah ut isnt it amazing that they can put your big tv sitting in living room into small handheld phone? Since I am paying for my tv licence at home I am not concerned about breaking law or something like that. Say that I just have 2 tv in home one in living room and one in my pocket...
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I have to play with settings as I need to know more about camera settinds and video player in that phone. It seems to me that that camera is not good enough but it can be that I choose some wrong settings...

Tom Dunne

patnor1011 wrote: »

I have few pics dont know where to upload them.

You can actually attach your pictures to a post without uploading them.

Just look down past the "Submit" button and you will see a "Manage attachments" button.

I would really like to see them.

patnor1011

ok... these are pics from auction which I won.... That will be faster than doing pics myself...

patnor1011

and another few...

mkennedy

What OS do these things run on.