Emmerdale [News, Spoilers and Discussion]

Frigga_92

"Rachel, you give me cramps" :pac:
I needed that laugh after the Alicia/Lachlan scene.

JP Liz V1

LOL'D at Dan and Sam both threatening Jai too

LynnGrace

ShazGV wrote: »

Jesus Lachlan is a seriously messed up child.I actually feel a bit ill after watching that.

Same here.

Radio5

Very creepy alright and his mother seems to be afraid of him.

Brilliantly acting by the actresses who play Alicia and Leyla.

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Radio5 wrote: »

Very creepy alright and his mother seems to be afraid of him.

Brilliantly acting by the actresses who play Alicia and Leyla.

Well that was deeply disturbing. Great acting from Alicia and Leyla though, who have been two of my favourites on the show, but often underrated or overlooked as actors.

Blingy

Didn't realise this is where the story with Lachlan. And Alicia was going. Gave me quite a shock. Poor Alicia.

That scene with Lalchan & Alicia was worse then a rape scene its so was ****ing creepy. I got goosebumps watching it

jaded_pause

Poor Alisha, that was possibly one of the worst things I've seen on TV in a long while

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What happened

dubstarr

Lachlan is a great character though and very creepy.Kudos to the actor who plays him,that must have been a very hard scene for him as well.

Baby4

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LynnGrace

Baby4 wrote: »

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I think that is what will happen.

dubstarr

The only thing is though Chrissie has the pictures of Alicia and theres obviously a backstory.Lachlan has probably done something similar as it was referred to last night.Thats why they moved.

Steven81

Lachlan more or less got Belle to jump of the roof that night, messed with her head saying i wonder what it would be like to jump etc, as for that hat would love to burn it.

LynnGrace

Steven81 wrote: »

.. as for that hat would love to burn it.

Definitely!

I think that even though they know he has history of some sort, the family will still try to turn the story back on Alicia.

Think I need a break from Emmerdale.

Frigga_92

Baby4 wrote: »

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I think the fact that he drank some alcohol will be used against her too and that she took back the handbag. I could see David even doubting her a bit because as he said she was "always making excuses for Lachlan" and she took back the handbag.
I don't see it being a clear cut thing.

MistyCheese

I hope it doesn't go down that road either. It's blatant victim blaming to say Alicia 'shouldn't have lead him on'. Even if she was aware he had a crush on her it seems that anything less than straight up saying "get away from me ya creepy freak!" is 'leading someone on'.

So she was nice to a troubled young lad, she obviously didn't expect him to do that. Lots of people have crushes without it turning to asault. Ideally she shouldnt have been in the house alone with him but clearly she thought he was harmless and has now paid a massive price for that mistake.

The scene itself was indeed disturbing, creepy and insidious instead of blatantly violent (such as a rape scene might be) and it's extremely weird that Lachlan thought she might want him to do that. Usually these things play out with the misunderstanding party trying to kiss the other person, instigating some kind of intimate embrace. I suppose this could be put down to the inexperience of a teenage boy. Maybe the porn he was downloading gave him the idea that what he was doing was okay?

TL;DR: People should be able to 'be nice' to others without having fear of violent retaliation/violation.

Frigga_92

MistyCheese wrote: »

TL;DR: People should be able to 'be nice' to others without having fear of violent retaliation/violation.

Oh I completely agree with you. My post was about what happened in Emmerdale, the storyline and how it will be played out for dramatic value, it certainly doesn't reflect my own thoughts on sexual assault.

MistyCheese

26sdrawkcab wrote: »

Oh I completely agree with you. My post was about what happened in Emmerdale, the storyline and how it will be played out for dramatic value, it certainly doesn't reflect my own thoughts on sexual assault.

Oh no, my post definitely wasn't directed at you, or anyone in the thread. Just a rant at the victim blaming culture of thinking that if someone is nice to another person then what else is (the other person) supposed to think?

I have a real life example involving a woman giving a man a hug - at his mother's funeral - and that man telling her husband that she came on to him.

JP Liz V1

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s12/emmerdale/interviews/a631835/emmerdale-boss-on-alicia-assault-story-lachlan-will-show-remorse

Emmerdale launched a dark storyline in Thursday night's hour-long episode (February 26) as Alicia Metcalfe was sexually assaulted by teenager Lachlan White.

Lachlan (Thomas Atkinson) had developed an unhealthy fixation on Alicia (Natalie Anderson) in recent weeks, but he took his obsession a horrifying step further when Alicia fell asleep on the couch at home while he was paying a visit.


With Alicia clearly traumatised by what happened, future episodes will explore the aftermath for the Metcalfes and the Whites as each member of both families is affected.

Here, Emmerdale's producer Kate Oates offers some extra insight on the storyline and where it goes from here.

Why did you want to do this storyline?
"It initially came from a conversation that I had with Natalie ages ago. She talked about how the way people may look at Alicia because of the way she dresses conflicts with her almost chaste moral compass. Alicia is someone who has been very devoted to David and she wasn't flighty in relationships even before she got married. That got me thinking a little bit.

"Some other things also influenced the idea as it grew. First of all, a documentary that I saw about how young people today are affected by what they see online and particularly teenage use of porn. I thought that was a really interesting subject and something that soap hadn't touched before.

"There's also a podcast called This American Life and I listened to a really fascinating one about a woman whose child really struggled with empathy. She was just at her wits' ends about what to do with him.

"When all of these things started colliding in my head, I thought that it could potentially be a really layered story where we could explore different kinds of themes about assault and how young people's mindsets are affected by the environment that they're in. We'll also see how families deal with it on both sides - the perpetrator's family and the survivor's family."

We've seen that Lachlan has been looking at very explicit content online. Can you tell us more about this aspect of the storyline?
"I don't think it's something that's been covered on soap, and yet it's something that is just all over the place. I don't know how my friends who have kids sleep at night - what's out there is really worrying.

"For girls and boys, the expectations on teenagers now are terrifying. They can be in positions where they've never had relationships themselves, but they've seen lots of people have sex on the internet and that has completely shaped the way they approach relationships, each other and the way they feel they should behave.

"I found that really fascinating and I wanted to talk about it on a forum like this, because Emmerdale does have a great reach and I think it is important to open that dialogue up."



Was it difficult to get the tone right in the show's early timeslot?
"It's obviously a challenging thing to explore at 7pm, so it certainly wasn't an easy thing to do but I'm glad that we've been able to approach it. We talked initially about whether Alicia would be raped. We discussed that at length, but we decided that didn't necessarily have to be the story.

"It was difficult to get the right tone. We worked really hard with compliance and with the writers. We also talked to Natalie about what she was comfortable with.

"Tom is a young actor, so we had meetings with him, his chaperone and the director too. It's a massive expectation to ask a teenage boy who's new to soap to play this kind of role. Tom has been really fearless with it though, and I really take my hat off to him."

How dangerous is Lachlan?
"When we were creating the character, we talked a lot about empathy and people who struggle with it. I think Lachlan is a character who does struggle with empathy. It was mentioned from the beginning that he'd caused trouble in previous schools, the White family had to move and that was really difficult for Chrissie. We laid that trail and it's the kind of thing that keeps Chrissie awake at night - her hope that Lachlan can become a normal kid.

"So there's that side of him, but equally one thing we learned when we were talking to various charities and support groups about this story is that they were very keen for us to hit home that Lachlan can be redeemed and he can show remorse.

"That might not come just yet and it might be a longer journey, but it's one of those things that I hope the viewers can discuss amongst themselves. You often have those questions like, 'Are people born evil? Is it nature or nurture?' One talking point is whether it's a product of what he's seeing online, is it a product of the way people talk at school or is it something that's innately in him? That's what will trouble Chrissie as time goes on."

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45 people complained to OfCom about the episode. Do these people not have any lives? It's funny that they'll complain about rape and sexual assault scenes until the cows come home, but seem fine with brutal murders and violence.

There's also always complaints over LGBT storylines - OfCom received complaints recently over an episode where Robert and Aaron had sex in a barn and were both lying topless in the hay afterwards. Same thing happened over an episode of Corrie last year. Ridiculous.

Frigga_92

Also Starring LeVar Burton wrote: »

45 people complained to OfCom about the episode. Do these people not have any lives? It's funny that they'll complain about rape and sexual assault scenes until the cows come home, but seem fine with brutal murders and violence.

There's also always complaints over LGBT storylines - OfCom received complaints recently over an episode where Robert and Aaron had sex in a barn and were both lying topless in the hay afterwards. Same thing happened over an episode of Corrie last year. Ridiculous.

Sweet jesus, do these people have nothing else to do??
These subjects need to be explored and it was definitely handled appropriately for before the "watershed".

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26sdrawkcab wrote: »

Sweet jesus, do these people have nothing else to do??
These subjects need to be explored and it was definitely handled appropriately for before the "watershed".

I don't really understand what people want from the soaps if this is what they complain about - the "real issues" and how they handle them are the main reason I watch any of the soaps. Not to mention the importance of these issues being addressed.

JP Liz V1

Also Starring LeVar Burton wrote: »

I don't really understand what people want from the soaps if this is what they complain about - the "real issues" and how they handle them are the main reason I watch any of the soaps. Not to mention the importance of these issues being addressed.

A warning was also given before the show aired

piperh

Just watched last nights episode and thought Wow that was so much more powerful than the Eastenders rape scene which i thought was good. It was implicit without actually showing the act and Natalie Anderson was believable as someone who has just been insulted.

Lachlan is one helluva disturbed child.

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JP Liz V1 wrote: »

A warning was also given before the show aired

I don't necessarily agree with warnings personally. There seems to be warnings on bloody everything nowadays, and since I don't have kids or get easily offended by anything the warnings just annoy me a bit and seem to be just there to pander to the PC Brigade. There never used to be as many warnings when I was growing up and it never seemed to be a problem because people made use of their common sense. If there's a helpline number at the end of an episode of something, I think the warning at the start (which everyone seems to ignore anyway) is unnecessary...

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Also Starring LeVar Burton wrote: »

45 people complained to OfCom about the episode. Do these people not have any lives? It's funny that they'll complain about rape and sexual assault scenes until the cows come home, but seem fine with brutal murders and violence.

There's also always complaints over LGBT storylines - OfCom received complaints recently over an episode where Robert and Aaron had sex in a barn and were both lying topless in the hay afterwards. Same thing happened over an episode of Corrie last year. Ridiculous.

OfCom have said they dismiss any complains about LGBT complains

I swear do these people just sit by the phone waiting to complain :mad: Podge & Rodge said it best, if you don't like what your watching change the ****ing channel

Hot Tony & Fat Brenda should get a spin off

Frigga_92

I only saw the very end, I'm assuming from what I did see that Lachlan is letting on they were having an affair and his muppet mother is believing him or at least pretending to?

Blingy

Chrissie is awfully naive considering Lachlann has a dodgy past. I know he's only 14 but so so creepy.