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Would you take one?

  • 20-03-2009 5:37am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,909 ✭✭✭✭


    So tonight we had another nail biter of a peno shoot out. As a fan I could barely watch so can only imagine the butterflies in the stomach of the players involved.

    Thinking about the great shoot outs of the past I'm wondering if you would have the balls to step up and take one if put in the situation.

    Obviously the glory is there a la David O'Leary in Italia 90, but conversely you could end up doing a Gareth Southgate, Chris Waddle, Stuart Pearce, David Batty, <insert English player here>.

    Personally I probably would. I have taken the last peno in a shoot out before, and scored, but they had one left after which they netted to send my team out. Horribly nervous even though there was only one man and his dog watching so I guess I might change my mind in front of 50,000 people.

    Would you take one? First? Last?

    Would you take a penalty in a shoot out? 75 votes

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭One Cold Hand


    Not a hope in hell
    I often think that the first is nearly as important as the last...it's important to start on the right note. For that reason I'd be reluctant to go first, or last.

    If no one else volunteered I'd take one, and if I had my choice it'd be the second or third.

    Not a nice way to finish games though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭pierrot


    I would if no one else wanted to
    Prefer to take one and miss than having to live with chickening out. If you're not in you can't win. That said, I would be bricking it no doubt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭Highsider


    What penalty shoot out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭PiE


    I would if no one else wanted to
    If there were clearly no better penalty specialists ahead of me, I'd take the first peno.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭Codofwar


    I would if no one else wanted to
    Id take a peno no problem but I would be nervous, not necessarly for me but id be nervous about missing for my team


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,249 ✭✭✭✭Kinetic^


    I would if no one else wanted to
    No guts,no glory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭monkey9


    Not only would i take one, but i'd want the fifth one for the glory. F*ck the team, it's all about me Me ME!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭JerryHandbag


    Not a hope in hell
    I took one once and fell to the ground David O' Leary style....but in embarrassment cos I rattled the bar :o I suppose I would take the 6th one!

    Its amazing how some just seem to walk up and rattle it in (ie Richard Dunne last nite) and others just go jelly-legged (Shevchenko CL final 2005)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭monkey9


    Highsider wrote: »
    What penalty shoot out?

    Man City last night against Aalborg.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I would if no one else wanted to
    Yea I would. At the end of the day I'd rather be the one in control than stand helplessly watching someone else do it. This can be especially bad if you have no faith in your team mates ability to score!

    I took the last penalty in 3 different cup matches back at under 9's, and twice when I was 12! Our coach was ALWAYS sayin to us ..."Just pick where you're putting it and don't think about what the goalies doin. Strike it well and he probably won't save it anyway"....... I scored all 3. Of these, 2 were to win and 1 was to keep us in it (we lost). If you focus 100% on where you're gonna put the ball then the pressures not as severe. You beat yourself when you think of consequences.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭PiE


    I would if no one else wanted to
    Wait, that? City won on penos? Goddamnit I turned off after 80mins.

    Also: lol.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    I would if no one else wanted to
    I chose the first option, but really I'd have chosen an Yes I'd definitely take it, but I'd probably be bricking it option if it was there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭markesmith


    Not a hope in hell
    I'd take one, but I wouldn't place it. I'd just blast it low at the goals.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    I would if no one else wanted to
    I have never been bothered by taking peno's, been taking them ever since i started playing ball!

    took one in a cup final once....was the closest i came to being nervous! but if its high and hard or low and hard the keeper doesnt really have a chance..... emphasise hard!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,909 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    I would if no one else wanted to
    PiE wrote: »
    Wait, that? City won on penos? Goddamnit I turned off after 80mins.

    Also: lol.

    Link to all the goals and penos -

    http://www.eplmatches.com/index.php/2009/03/19/aab-aalborg-vs-man-city-uefa-cup-highlights/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,524 ✭✭✭joe123


    Ive taken penalties for my local team in shootouts before. Tough to take but its a great feeling seeing it go in. Cant imagine what its like at World cup level etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭jprender


    For 60k+ per week I would take all 5.

    Wouldnt bother me if i missed either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,909 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    I would if no one else wanted to
    jprender wrote: »
    For 60k+ per week I would take all 5.

    Wouldnt bother me if i missed either.

    Elano? Is that you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,081 ✭✭✭LeixlipRed


    I've taken a good few penalties in my time. Never scored one in a shoot out though. Though we won one even though I missed. Scored every penalty I've taken in normal time bar one (last game last season with boards team, also broke wrist in game :D).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭A7X


    I would if no one else wanted to
    I wouldn't take one if I didn't regularly practice them tbh.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭yahoo_moe


    I would if no one else wanted to
    Only ever had 1 penalty shoot-out during my soccer-playing years - I was all set to take one but then I was subbed to get on an 'expert' from our first team just towards the end of extra time.

    He missed, we lost and I swore that I'd make more of a fuss and insist on taking one if the opportunity ever cropped up again. Way I see it, I'd always slightly resent a teammate who'd missed so it's only fair that I'd take one too - can't have a double standard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭yahoo_moe


    I would if no one else wanted to
    A7X wrote: »
    I wouldn't take one if I didn't regularly practice them tbh.
    I think the history of penalty shoot-outs shows that practice has very little to do with it - the right temperament is far more important. The best penalty-takers in normal time can crumble, while the least technical players can do the job just by keeping their heads.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    I would if no one else wanted to
    jprender wrote: »
    For 60k+ per week I would take all 5.

    Wouldnt bother me if i missed either.

    Missing in a high-profile penalty shoot-out clearly fucks up your life though:

    ron.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭jprender


    stovelid wrote: »
    Missing in a high-profile penalty shoot-out clearly fucks up your life though:

    ron.jpg



    Money in the bank. It's only a game after all ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 549 ✭✭✭Jam-Fly


    Ideally, I would take the No. 2 penalty. Also assuming I was one of the better penalty takers in the team. If there were 5 better penalty takers than me, who wanted to take one, I obviously wouldn't object.

    I think taking the 1st penalty is the most important, much moreso than the last penalty.

    Out of interest, if you select a player who is world class under pressure to take the 5th penalty (ie the final penalty), but it gets to a stage where you need to score your 3rd/4th penalty to win, can you select penalty taker number 5 to take this possible winning penalty or are you bound to your original selection?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    stovelid wrote: »
    Missing in a high-profile penalty shoot-out clearly fucks up your life though.

    Just do what James Corden did!

    Anyway, penalties, I'd be bricking it, the thought of everyone watching you, you'll be a hero or not. I've taken a few, scored 5, missed 2.


  • Registered Users Posts: 549 ✭✭✭Jam-Fly


    Xavi6 wrote: »

    thanks for that link.

    jesus christ, the 4th penalty from Aalboorg :0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,889 ✭✭✭Third_Echelon


    I would if no one else wanted to
    In my younger days (not actually that long ago now that i think of it) at underage and senior level I took most of the set pieces and penalties. Had a pretty good conversion rate from the spot.. Think I only missed 1 from at least 15 penos (from play) over 4 or 5 seasons.

    Only involved in 2 shoot-outs in that time and won on both occassions, scored both times as well.. thank god :p

    It is really down to believing in yourself. If you know you can score or have the ability to score it is half the battle. The other half is all down to the time and the place... how you feel on the day and how you deal with pressure. I didn't let the pressure get to me. I kinda thrived on it..

    Thinking of it, I'd love to get back into competitive football..... need to lose 2 stone though :-)


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,648 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    I would if no one else wanted to
    I've always taken one for any team I play for - but I don't take the first or last.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,435 ✭✭✭✭redout


    I would if no one else wanted to
    If you dont stick your hand up then your a wimp plane and simple. Even if you offer and dont get selected at least you still put yourself forward.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    I think there's only one situation I might think twice about it but I would hope I would manage to clear the head would be

    If Ireland somehow managed to get to the world cup final and I had to take the final kick

    I'm not sure I could handle coming home if i missed.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,879 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    I would if no one else wanted to
    Im bored so here is a story about my most memorable penalty shoot out ever


    Always remember a penalty shoot out from a competition i played in Age 12. Me and a really good mate were captains of sides in a competition and both only barely eligable for the age group we were in so clearly the best players about, cept he had about 3 decent players with him and I only had 1 half decent player (who personality wise i didnt get on with).

    Both teams got to the final my team named Nigeria for some reason and his Italia, thus we both got temp nicknames "Baggio" and "Jay Jay" (Okocha). Baggio scored an early goal and his side contained mine for the rest of the match until with about a minute to go i made a sliding tackle on baggio who stayed down, without him defending and despite the fact that I was almost on my own goal line I knew the goal was mine and ran the entire pitch and belted the ball full blast into the corner of the net before collapsing in exhaustion beside the corner flag.

    Penalties: We were informed that we had only time for Pens as another game was due to start but that being a kiddies tournament every member of the team would have to take a penalty then we would add up the tallys to see who gets the lil trophys :D.

    First Nigerean Pen (Me): eyes on the bottom right corner the whole time inc as i run up but i blast it into the top left corner and leave the keeper inside the wrong corner of the net.

    First Italian Pen (Baggio): In my eyes a goal was a certainty here which is why i was shocked as he lived up to his moniker and blasted over... 1-0 after one and im sure were gonna win

    2nd Nigerian Pen: My only other decent player steps up and misses with the worst pen ive ever seen... most would have got worried here, I was almost happy, no glory for that douche

    2nd Italien pen: Goal 1-1
    3rd Nigerian Pen: Miss 1-1
    3rd Italien Pen: Goal 1-2
    4th Nigerian Pen: Miss 1-2
    4th Italien Pen: Goal 1-3
    5th Nigerian Pen: Miss 1-3
    5th Italien Pen: Goal 1-4
    6th Nigerian Pen: Miss 1-4

    anyone noticing a pattern...

    the shootout ended 10-1 to Italy, i was fkn miserable for ages afterwards :( sure was memorable though :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    I would if no one else wanted to
    I would take a peno because I wouldn't trust anyone else TBH


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭A7X


    I would if no one else wanted to
    yahoo_moe wrote: »
    I think the history of penalty shoot-outs shows that practice has very little to do with it - the right temperament is far more important. The best penalty-takers in normal time can crumble, while the least technical players can do the job just by keeping their heads.

    Aye but i mostly ment for my own confidence in taking one.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭Jazzy


    I would if no one else wanted to
    id be grand id say, i cope better under pressure then i do without it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    I would if no one else wanted to
    Hell yeah I'd take one, much rather the first one than the last one though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,645 ✭✭✭Daemos


    If it was a home match, yes. Away no, because I know the jeering would put me off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭entropi


    I would if no one else wanted to
    I'd happily take a penalty, put me first or last its all good:) I have done it in the past without hesitation and put them in the net but once i get to that stage its all about winning, if i missed i wouldn't be unhappy with myself for taking it, i'd feel bad if the team did end up losing though...but the world turns life goes on, until the next time:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,570 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    I would if no one else wanted to
    Always take one
    Always the fifth


  • Registered Users Posts: 787 ✭✭✭bUILDERtHEbOB


    Not a hope in hell
    I'd put my name down for the sixth one.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭tony1kenobi


    I'd only take the first one.

    Then I'd save 5.....just like Roy of the Rovers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 787 ✭✭✭bUILDERtHEbOB


    Not a hope in hell
    I'd only take the first one.

    Then I'd save 5.....just like Roy of the Rovers.

    Big JT style?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭tony1kenobi


    Big JT style?

    I'd at least hit the target.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Racing Flat


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Would you take one? First? Last?
    I often think that the first is nearly as important as the last...it's important to start on the right note. For that reason I'd be reluctant to go first, or last.

    If no one else volunteered I'd take one, and if I had my choice it'd be the second or third.

    Your best penalty taker should always go third. It's the first possible 'essential to score or you go out' one. So order of takers from best pen taker in the team to 5th best taker should probably be:

    no. 3
    no. 2
    no. 1
    no. 4
    no. 5

    Frankly I'm surprised that teams rarely do this and that commentators etc. rarely mention it. Odds-wise, the 3rd one is the most important!
    monkey9 wrote: »
    Not only would i take one, but i'd want the fifth one for the glory. F*ck the team, it's all about me Me ME!!

    5th taker doesn't very often get to take one does he?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭Idu


    would definitely take one and would insist on being in the first three. Was the penalty taker for my team and one year we were knocked out of the national cup on penalties and I didn't get to take one because the gaffer wanted to keep me for the crucial fifth penalty. Never got that far.

    Also once scored 3 penos in one match before and still lost


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,434 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    I would if no one else wanted to
    Always go number 3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    I would if no one else wanted to
    I'd take one and probably miss :) But I'd take one, personal responsibility and all that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 214 ✭✭bmcgov86


    bottom right


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