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Ireland absolutely disgraced...

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 87 ✭✭Blangis


    Darragh29 wrote: »
    We pay the Gardai hansomly for managing the streets

    You've got taxis on the brain. If you weren't so obsessed with them, you might have avoided that beating.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 568 ✭✭✭TheLoc


    Fred83 wrote: »
    another example of lawless ireland-source breaking news.ie
    ****in scum. Another one this morning was on rtenews.ie. youth from letterkenny was joy riding and wwhen guards tried to stop him, he drove towards them and hospitalised one guard. No wonder some guards are scared ****less.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭97i9y3941


    i read that in one of the papers this morn,unfortantly the gov have to take the blame for that too,apparently that youth was release from prison due to overcrowding in them


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 568 ✭✭✭TheLoc


    Darragh29 wrote: »
    Here's more of the same auld codding going on...

    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/eyaueyauojcw/

    A 17-year-old girl, who posed as a member of the Garda Drug Squad when she subjected a woman to a violent mugging, has been remanded on continuing bail to await sentencing in May.

    The victim, aged 22, had her hair pulled, was punched and had her head beaten off the ground by the girl, who had been trying to steal beer cans worth €19, from her, the Dublin Children’s Court heard.

    The teenage girl had pleaded guilty earlier to robbery at Thornleigh Road, in Swords, in Dublin, on November 24, 2007.

    Judge Ann Ryan adjourned sentencing the girl, who is on bail, for a victim impact statement to be taken and furnished to the court in May. An updated report from the Probation Service which has been assisting the girl to address her offending has also being sought.

    In evidence, Garda Pamela Hart had said that the woman had been returning from a shop with her 13-year-old niece. She had been carrying a bag containing cans of beer when a car, in which the girl was a passenger, pulled up beside her.

    The defendant “got out and said she was a member of the Garda Drug Squad and asked to take the cans”.

    Garda Hart said that after the victim refused to hand them over the girl “pulled her hair, punched her and knocked her to the ground”.

    “She continued to punch her on the head and hit her head off the ground,” Garda Hart said adding that, during the mugging, the woman had tried to defend herself.

    The woman’s niece who was present ran off and rang the gardaí.

    Garda Hart said the woman was left with two bumps on her head and bruised nose as a result of the robbery.

    Judge Ryan described the robbery as “very serious” and had added that she was “amazed that there is no assault charge”.

    She noted that the girl, who was accompanied to court by her father, had no prior convictions but was facing sentencing later this month for separate charges for possessing stolen goods, bottles of alcohol.

    A 17 year old slapper pretends to be a member of the drug squad and the Gardai couldn't even be bothered putting together an assault charge!
    Its not up to the guards, its up to the person who got attacked. she needs to press the charges. i'm not defending the guards though. they are usless


    Fred: seriously? thats a joke. over crowding in jails in a small country like ireland just shouldn't happen. too many parents are not doing their jobs at all. why would you want your kid growing up to be a scumbag?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭97i9y3941


    TheLoc wrote: »
    Fred: seriously? thats a joke. over crowding in jails in a small country like ireland just shouldn't happen. too many parents are not doing their jobs at all. why would you want your kid growing up to be a scumbag?

    i know,its a shame,the courts have tried to bring in law allowing parents been accountable,unfortantly due to busy bodies protesting that the poor parents would not be able to afford the fine or their soilcitors will do the usual poor mouth poor background story,its bull****,alot of us probably came from disadvantaged backgrounds but we didnt go out robbing or breaking peoples jaws


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 568 ✭✭✭TheLoc


    Exactly. you get a job and get on with it. you try and get out so you can have a better life. even supermarket jobs are fairly well paid. the soliciters always say the same thing. "they suffer from ADD & poor background & they are very sorry & it won't happen the next time". it is bollix. not every poor family member suffers from ADD. its nearly like in Batman begins where cillian murphy gets all the gansters off jail by saying they are insane.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭97i9y3941


    TheLoc wrote: »
    Its not up to the guards, its up to the person who got attacked. she needs to press the charges. i'm not defending the guards though.

    was highlighted on joe duffy show other day,when someone is been prosecuted,their solicitor gives them a letter which contains the address of the person that who is pressing charges,one caller wanted to press charges and told the gardai he would if he could give his work address or local garda station address out of fear he been intimidated at home,but he was refused,he was told he had to give his home address so didnt bother pressing charges after all


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 568 ✭✭✭TheLoc


    Fred83 wrote: »
    was highlighted on joe duffy show other day,when someone is been prosecuted,their solicitor gives them a letter which contains the address of the person that who is pressing charges,one caller wanted to press charges and told the gardai he would if he could give his work address or local garda station address out of fear he been intimidated at home,but he was refused,he was told he had to give his home address so didnt bother pressing charges after all
    Ah didn't know that


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭funnyname


    Why, what are the legal reasons for having to supply your address to the person who assaulted you, to make it easier for them to do it again?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭bill_ashmount


    A teenager who along with others violently attacked a college student which led him to the victim being thrown for a window on the top floor of a Dublin bus has been given a suspended sentence.

    Judge Frank O'Donnell described the incident as an "ultimate nightmare" and said the four, who are all members of the travelling community, "were acting as locusts".



    He then dishes out a load of suspended sentences, ffs :mad: Why not pay them to carry out the attacks, looks like we have no intention of punishing them.

    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/eyaueyididcw/


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭97i9y3941


    that is a disgrace,its givening the 2 fingers to the law,if i was that vicitum i would be shocked and disgusted,i mean,he have to walk around the streets again and hope dont bump into them


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭marcsignal


    TO THOSE OF YOU NOT FAMILIAR WITH JOE ARPAIO, HE IS THE MARICOPA COUNTY SHERIFF (ARIZONA) AND HE KEEPS GETTING ELECTED OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

    These are some of the reasons why:

    * Sheriff Joe Arpaio created the "tent city jail" to save Arizona
    from spending tens of million of dollars on another expensive
    prison complex.

    * He has jail meals down to 40 cents a serving and charges the
    inmates for them.

    * He banned smoking and porno magazines in the jails, and took away their weightlifting equipment and cut off all but "G" movies. He says:

    "they're in jail to pay a debt to society not to build muscles so they can assault innocent people when they leave."

    * He started chain gangs to use the inmates to do free work on
    county and city projects and save taxpayer's money.

    * Then he started chain gangs for women so he wouldn't get sued for discrimination.

    * He took away cable TV until he found out there was a federal
    court order that required cable TV for jails. So he hooked up the cable TV again but only allows the Disney channel and the weather channel.

    * When asked why the weather channel he replied:

    "so these morons will know how hot it's gonna be while they are working on my chain gangs."

    * He cut off coffee because it has zero nutritional value and is therefore a waste of taxpayer money. When the inmates complained, he told them:

    "This isn't the Ritz/Carlton. If you don't like it, don't come back."

    * He also bought the Newt Gingrich lecture series on US history
    that he pipes into the jails. When asked by a reporter if he had
    any lecture series by a Democrat, he replied that a democratic lecture series that actually tells the truth for a change would be welcome and that it might even explain why 95% of the inmates were in his jails in the first place.

    * With temperatures being even hotter than usual in Phoenix (116
    degrees just set a new record for June 2nd), the Associated Press
    reports:

    About 2,000 inmates living in a barbed- wire-surrounded tent encampment at the Maricopa County Jail have been given permission to strip down to their government-issued pink boxer shorts.

    * On Wednesday, hundreds of men wearing pink boxer shorts were
    chatting in the tents, where temperatures reached 128 degrees.

    "This is hell. It feels like we live in a furnace," said Ernesto Gonzales, an inmate for 2 years with 10 more to go. "It's inhumane."

    * Joe Arpaio, who makes his prisoners wear pink, and eat bologna
    sandwiches, is not one bit sympathetic. He says:

    "Criminals should be
    punished for their crimes - not live in luxury until it's time for parole, only to go out and commit more crimes so they can come back in to live on taxpayers money and enjoy things many taxpayers can't afford to have for themselves."


    * Wednesday he told all the inmates who were complaining of the
    heat in the tents:

    "It's between 120 to 130 degrees in Iraq and our soldiers are living in tents too, and they have to walk all day in the sun, wearing full battle gear and get shot at, and they have not committed any crimes, so shut your damned mouths!"

    * Way to go, Sheriff! If all prisons were like yours there would be a lot less crime and we would not be in the current position of running out of prison spaces.

    Sheriff Joe was just re-elected Sheriff in Maricopa County, Arizona


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭97i9y3941


    i seen him on americas hardest prisons,i admired him for useing some of the inmates for menial work,most of the inmates enjoy it too as it gets them outdoors,also they know not to mess with him as the guards are carrying weapons incase they get out of line whilst working in public


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,556 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    What the f*ck are the gardai in Tipperary at???

    There are 4 of them at anyone time sitting in a car, one of them holding a radar detector out the window, on the best safest part of the road tht they can find

    There are 4 of them on the beat, normally 2 sets of 2, but these are just out of templemore and wouldnt know where to look for trouble in even if they were in a bag with 3 cats and a dog

    There are 4 of them just finishing duty

    There are another 4 maning the station

    There are at least another six, out with the customs dipping your car for green diesel to see if you are robbing the state of tax on a 50 euro fill of tax

    There are another odd number of them doing some tango and cash crack style investigation - apparently somone held up the doughnut shop ad got away with 3 boston creams and 3 jam centre doughnuts.. apparently there were sprinkles on the latter

    But good people of tipperary do not think you are special, this is a nationwide effort.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    Darragh29 wrote: »
    If I had four hands, I wouldn't be able to count the number of countries I've travelled to, I've yet to visit one that has anywhere near the amount of skang that this country has in it.

    Six hands here and I will back up this comment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,658 ✭✭✭old boy


    more fun there on friday night last, a number of cars had there tyres slashed


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,016 ✭✭✭Blush_01


    snyper wrote: »
    There are 4 of them at anyone time sitting in a car, one of them holding a radar detector out the window, on the best safest part of the road tht they can find

    There are 4 of them on the beat, normally 2 sets of 2, but these are just out of templemore and wouldnt know where to look for trouble in even if they were in a bag with 3 cats and a dog

    There are 4 of them just finishing duty

    There are another 4 maning the station

    There are at least another six, out with the customs dipping your car for green diesel to see if you are robbing the state of tax on a 50 euro fill of tax

    There are another odd number of them doing some tango and cash crack style investigation - apparently somone held up the doughnut shop ad got away with 3 boston creams and 3 jam centre doughnuts.. apparently there were sprinkles on the latter

    But good people of tipperary do not think you are special, this is a nationwide effort.

    I'd like to pull you up on something there... there's nowhere in Tipperary Town to buy a decent ring or jam doughnut, never mind a boston cream. Snyper, you've got to do your research better!

    In all seriousness, I don't think I've ever seen a Garda "on the beat" in Tipperary. I've never seen more than two of them in a car together. I've never seen them dipping cars, or checking speed/tax/insurance in the area. The only place I've ever seen people being dipped was Boher (Limerick) and those were the C&E guys. You'd swear there was nobody in the station any time you ring or call in. I sometimes think there are actually only three gardaí working in Tipperary town at any time - one to man the station and ignore the phone, the other two to go for brekkie rolls and biscuits, so one can run into the shop and the other can sit in the car revving the engine.

    That said, Joe Duffy is most definitely not the yardstick by which to measure reality, truth or unbiased information in my opinion.


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