Special K,Activia and other products aimed at women that pisses you off!

JC 2K3

panda100 wrote: »

This is not 'intelligence',its pure evil and making lives miserable for millions of women around the world!

Intelligence and evil are not mutually exclusive. Intelligence has nothing to do with morality.

You mightn't consider it moral, but manipulating millions of people into thinking along a certain line and thus buying certain products is certainly an impressive feat and would require a great deal of understanding and insight into how the human mind works. The people behind successful advertising campaigns are clearly very intelligent, morality has nothing to do with this.

Das Kitty

WindSock wrote: »

I was in the airport last week looking for New Scientist and looking to see how far away it was placed from the plethora of womens mags. I couldn't even find it so I got Viz instead. It was firmly placed in the man section beside the naked FHM ladies.

Hows about some guerrilla magazine rearranging? Stick a copy of Home and Garden amongst the top shelf and Car Repairs in beside OK etc.?

I hate the way there are now clearly defined boys and girls comics for kids with no crossover anymore. I used to love the Beano, but comics like that are for boys now apparently!

grr

WindSock

Das Kitty wrote: »

grr

Heh. Don't you mean Gnash!

Oryx

WindSock wrote: »

I was in the airport last week looking for New Scientist and looking to see how far away it was placed from the plethora of womens mags. I couldn't even find it so I got Viz instead. It was firmly placed in the man section beside the naked FHM ladies.

New Scientist to Viz.... cant quite figure that one.

I used to buy FHM, it used to be good, with a lower ad to article ratio than the womens mags, but then all the women in it started getting their baps out, got a bit too porno for me. So I started buying GQ. Now that Im no longer in the key 18-35 demographic (or maybe I just got sense) I dont buy any of em.

monkeyfudge

Oryx wrote: »

New Scientist to Viz.... cant quite figure that one.

You'd be surprised at the similarities that the Top Tips page in Viz shares with the Last Word page in New Scientist.

Oh.. and Charlie Brooker's Confessions of an Advertising Insider:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWXKHGolqrU

Honey-ec

WindSock wrote: »

I couldn't even find it so I got Viz instead. It was firmly placed in the man section beside the naked FHM ladies.

Do they still do Top Tips? Best regular feature in a magazine ever.

My husband is serving in Chad at the moment and asked me to send over a few magazines - Zoo and Nuts being two of those mentioned. I was actually too embarrassed to buy them, so got him Playboy instead.

At least the nekkidness is honest and he might actually get to read a few decent articles.

fonpokno

Mary D wrote: »

I hate that Barry's tea ad with the girl with the wonky fringe, Jesus I want to kill her with her studid voice "I texted him and he texted me back". It really boils my blood.

God, every time I see that ad I want to cut her hair. I hate that fringe. I also want to fix her diction at the end where nobody can tell if she says "is it?" or "is this?". Silly!

I also really dislike all of those ads that say "YOUR BABY WILL DIE IF YOU DON'T KILL 99.9% OF BACTERIA WITH DOMESTOS". So irritating.

monkeyfudge

fonpokno wrote: »

I also really dislike all of those ads that say "YOUR BABY WILL DIE IF YOU DON'T KILL 99.9% OF BACTERIA WITH DOMESTOS". So irritating.

Then you have other adverts telling you how friendly the bastards are if you have them in your yogurt!

panda100

monkeyfudge wrote: »

Then you have other adverts telling you how friendly the bastards are if you have them in your yogurt!

I for one welcome our new Bacteria overlords. Bifidus Regularis I salute thee as bacteria supreme leader

That Charlie Brooker clip was excellent. Its so true! Advertising exec's havent a creative innovative thought between them. Just rehashing the same all worn out stereotypes to make massive profits selling crap nobody needs anyway. God I hate the free market

monkeyfudge

panda100 wrote: »

That Charlie Brooker clip was excellent.

Be sure to do a search for his top ten biggest cocks and she cocks in advertising.

Malari

monkeyfudge wrote: »

Then you have other adverts telling you how friendly the bastards are if you have them in your yogurt!

I hate those bloated ads! Why are they all from Lancashire?! Maybe they should be looking at what else is in their diet apart from yoghurt.

And another thing! If you didn't have Lactobacillus (the L in L caseii immunitas) in your yoghurt it wouldn't be yoghurt. And you already have Bifidus in your gut having never consumed yoghurt!

Argh. :mad:

JC 2K3

panda100 wrote: »

Advertising exec's havent a creative innovative thought between them. Just rehashing the same all worn out stereotypes to make massive profits selling crap nobody needs anyway. God I hate the free market

Heh. But advertising isn't about creativity, it's about making maximum profit for a company (I always dispute the idea that advertisements should be considered an artform). If the stereotypes work, they work.

I used to feel strongly about this like you appear to, but these days I'm just apathetic about the whole thing.

Dragan

panda100 wrote: »

I for one welcome our new Bacteria overlords. Bifidus Regularis I salute thee as bacteria supreme leader

That Charlie Brooker clip was excellent. Its so true! Advertising exec's havent a creative innovative thought between them. Just rehashing the same all worn out stereotypes to make massive profits selling crap nobody needs anyway. God I hate the free market

Advertising execs don't need to be creative. They need to look at the data and analysis it and apply it to their specific brand. That's about it. They need to look at what is being tenured by Creative Advertising companies and decide what goes in line with their business model and image.

For what it's worth, some of the most innovative moments in photography and videography came about simply because of advertising.

I also feel that capatilism and free market, at their very bear definitions and concepts, are the only way to run anything. It's not the concepts fault that the application is out of whack.

Oryx

panda100 wrote: »

I for one welcome our new Bacteria overlords. Bifidus Regularis I salute thee as bacteria supreme leader

That Charlie Brooker clip was excellent. Its so true! Advertising exec's havent a creative innovative thought between them. Just rehashing the same all worn out stereotypes to make massive profits selling crap nobody needs anyway. God I hate the free market

They can't spell, neither. Cillit Bang (and the dirt is GONE) ran a tv ad for months that claimed their product could clean 'Steal'. Tis fixed now, but ran for ages with the typo.

JC 2K3

Mispellings are often inserted into advertisements deliberately.

Why? Because people notice and talk about it. You've just given Cillit Bang free publicity in your above post.

Macha

Dragan wrote: »

I also feel that capatilism and free market, at their very bear definitions and concepts, are the only way to run anything. It's not the concepts fault that the application is out of whack.

OK but if we accept censorship of some advertising (cigarettes, etc) surely it's just a question of where and at what do we draw the line?

monkeyfudge

Can we ban crappy Cadbury adverts that **** love to extol as works of art, please?

Oryx

JC 2K3 wrote: »

Mispellings are often inserted into advertisements deliberately.

Why? Because people notice and talk about it. You've just given Cillit Bang free publicity in your above post.

Damn. Cos I hate their ads.:)

Dragan

taconnol wrote: »

OK but if we accept censorship of some advertising (cigarettes, etc) surely it's just a question of where and at what do we draw the line?

Ah yes, but WHY do we accept censorship, in any form?

Cigarettes are the dirty little secret of most countries economics. The bring in a shed load of capital, so people will only allow censorship of them to the point that it doesn't really impact on sales.

You can't advertise cigarettes on tv. So what? They are already so far into the public domain that you don't need to do it anymore, and thats why it happened.

Watersheds are really the only way to go with Advertising. If i want to produce a product and advertise it based on peoples fears and goals then i can do that. Why? Because the process to effect change the best is the process that does the same thing, the political. Make you afraid of something and get your vote is basically the same as make you afraid of something and get your money.

The survival of any product on the market is based on two things.

1) It's effectiveness.
2) It's price point.

The marketing/advertising side is simply about raising awareness through any available means and passing on that 3 to 30 seconds worth of information. Ads like these are on tv because they work, they work because people respond to them, people respond to them because they work off common denominators, people like the people in this forum don't buy into it because we look for answers instead of being fed them.

That said, millions and millions of people are more than happy to go out and buy them, the brand and the bull****. As such, we are outnumbered in our feelings by millions of people who find such practices either not interesting or acceptable.

The real question is, to the rest of the world, are we that small annoying vocal minority?

Yes.

Oryx

The ad with the kids with those weird eyebrows freaks me out. Cant watch it. And it dont work cos I dont know what the product is.

Wibbs

Dragan wrote: »

I also feel that capatilism and free market, at their very bear definitions and concepts, are the only way to run anything. It's not the concepts fault that the application is out of whack.

+1000. The alternatives don't really inspire me.

coffee_cake

Malari wrote: »

And another thing! If you didn't have Lactobacillus (the L in L caseii immunitas) in your yoghurt it wouldn't be yoghurt. And you already have Bifidus in your gut having never consumed yoghurt!

Argh. :mad:

But it has latin important sounding sciency stuff in it! And "immune"! It must be good for you! :eek:


I love the "immunofortis" ones too. Hey guys, what sounds all important AND good for you that we can emphasise in our ads??

Eviledna

I think that lads certainly get it in advertising too, just take your average Gillette ad...(Think it was dara o brian who noticed this recently) Fusion-Power-Steath-PHENOM!!! How many boy-toy words can you fit into one product? And the way the men are always shaved underneath the foam, much akin to women in make-up wipe ads still having perfect skin after using them! I don't know about ye, but usually my spots show up after taking my makeup off!!:rolleyes:

Oh but Special K. I could murder the people responsible for those ads. The one with the giant muffin stalking the skinny-minny as she gleefully wafts over to a tasteless cereal bar with smugness in tow. Any woman person in their right mind would have their wicked way with the giant muffin and have their muffin babies.
And why do I have to be presented with "gal mags" every time I go shopping declaring 50 ways I could be like Victoria Beckham (who I'd gladly use as a toothpick after devouring said muffin babies) yet my beloved Focus magazine is almost nowhere to be found? I like me handbags and fashion in appropriate amounts, must I measure my femininity by how much I look at glossy pictures of them, rather than encourage my mind with an equally glossy yet interesting mag?
Every time I read a headline saying "this season you gotta have x" or "50 ways to get thin yesterday", I just feel that certain advertising is praying on the measure of your insecurities rather than actually selling the benefits of the product.

Faith

I always remember an ad from a good few years ago now, for Special K I think. The song playing over it actually had lyrics like "You have to be thin to be loved", or something along those lines. It outraged me to the point that I wrote to Kelloggs about it, but they never responded, of course, nor stopped the ad.

Oryx

Faith wrote: »

I always remember an ad from a good few years ago now, for Special K I think. The song playing over it actually had lyrics like "You have to be thin to be loved", or something along those lines. It outraged me to the point that I wrote to Kelloggs about it, but they never responded, of course, nor stopped the ad.

Is this the song?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBCEcp4uDb0

Das Kitty

Speaking of marketing to men;

There was an ad for some male shaving products on yesterday (I dunno if it was the TV or the radio because I only heard what was being said in passing).

Talking about after shaving you need to "refuel" your skin.

Talk about a man term for moisturise! Made me smile.

Also the other half at one point wanted to get Clinique Scruffing Lotion in a steel grey bottle. Until I explained to him that it was Toner.

Also anything related to James Bond will have him parting with his cash. He's an advertiser's dream!

Joey the lips

Das Kitty wrote: »

Speaking of marketing to men;

There was an ad for some male shaving products on yesterday (I dunno if it was the TV or the radio because I only heard what was being said in passing).

Talking about after shaving you need to "refuel" your skin.

Talk about a man term for moisturise! Made me smile.

Also the other half at one point wanted to get Clinique Scruffing Lotion in a steel grey bottle. Until I explained to him that it was Toner.

Also anything related to James Bond will have him parting with his cash. He's an advertiser's dream!

Us men are craving so much now for soft skin we are doing our own " She places the lotion into the basket or she gets the hose - Silance of the lambs "

Marketing is playing a lot lately at men and TBH i think its working. We have become more model men lately than Shoveling cement men covered in [EMAIL="Sh@t"]Sh@t[/EMAIL] every night.

DARKIZE

panda100 wrote: »

I used to love Yorkie bars,used to get the nut and raisin one all the time. Now I purposefully dont buy it because I find 'its not for girls' quite offensive. I mean wtf does is that suggesting about us 'girls'? Il just go back to eating my activia that tastes like bland nothingness and my little bits of cardboard special k so!

They have special girly bars.........Aero and Galaxy. If a man eats those, he starts growing boobs and using coasters.

jellie

Das Kitty wrote: »

It has to be the most offensive ad I've seen in ages.

The Sex and The City style ad where they're chatting about constipation makes me laugh though, imagine you're pitch going to the company saying "We want to make constipation sexy" an unveiling your storyboard. LOL

i didnt know what ad you were talking about here, then i saw it last night. weird weird weird ad. i cant even remember the product, just how bizarre it was.

monkeyfudge

DARKIZE wrote: »

They have special girly bars.........Aero and Galaxy. If a man eats those, he starts growing boobs and using coasters.

I like galaxy... and mint aeros... are men allowed eat mint aeros?