Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

Pro Wrestling nostalgia discussion!

13

Comments

  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,522 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Ah your going to rib us all for admitting this stuff. Off the top of my head Bret Hart v Austin mania 13


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    DM-ICE wrote: »
    Ah your going to rib us all for admitting this stuff.

    Of course not, unless it's deserved of course. :)
    Bret-Austin at Mania 13 wasn't THAT great either to be honest, save for the ending. Their match at Survivor Series 96 was waaaay better.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,522 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    ShawnRaven wrote: »
    Of course not, unless it's deserved of course. :)
    Bret-Austin at Mania 13 wasn't THAT great either to be honest, save for the ending. Their match at Survivor Series 96 was waaaay better.


    I wouldn't know how great the mania match it was, I never saw it! It does count as famed doesn't it.
    I still miss sticker books, sigh.....


    Anyone else have a famed match that you heard so much about, but didn't actually see?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,208 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    I have watched no Hogan vs Warrior matches. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    DM-ICE wrote: »
    I wouldn't know how great the mania match it was, I never saw it! It does count as famed doesn't it.

    Only the biggest double turn of the 1990s. I'd consider it a famed match. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    I have watched no Hogan vs Warrior matches. :(

    All two of them. The first was awesome, but the second was everything opposite of the first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭Jolt2007


    Nick Bockwinkel/Curt Hennig, the 1 hour long match. Have heard many calling it the greatest ever, but I'm still yet to get around to seeing it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭michael.etc...


    Jolt2007 wrote: »
    Nick Bockwinkel/Curt Hennig, the 1 hour long match. Have heard many calling it the greatest ever, but I'm still yet to get around to seeing it.

    I thought it was a really, really good match, and very different for most, seeing Curt at that level as a Babyface. The match flew by for me.

    Noticed the Austin/Bret discussion- I was reading on one of Lance Storm's most recent blogs how he's never seen the bloody thing! So whoever that wasn't hasn't seen it, isn't alone....


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,522 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Noticed the Austin/Bret discussion- I was reading on one of Lance Storm's most recent blogs how he's never seen the bloody thing! So whoever that wasn't hasn't seen it, isn't alone....

    I better improve my dvd collection. Don't want to be like Mr Miserable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    Noticed the Austin/Bret discussion- I was reading on one of Lance Storm's most recent blogs how he's never seen the bloody thing! So whoever that wasn't hasn't seen it, isn't alone....

    Hah, Lance Storm was too busy trying not to be an ECW jobber at that stage in his career, he barely had a career then!


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 178 ✭✭ScumdogV2


    Never seen any of the following

    -Hogan/Warrior
    -Hogan/Andre
    -Benoit/Guerrero/Michaels at WM 20 (although I did have the PPV on tape at the time, just never got round to watching it).
    -Any of the CM Punk/Samoa Joe matches in ROH (though this will change, I've, erm, acquired their trilogy).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,812 ✭✭✭Sirsok


    i lkiked the idea of this thread so i signed up to share my two cents.

    i remember the first wrestlemania i ever saw was 8, i loved warrior so it was class seeing him, papa shongo not so much.

    mankinds viginettes always come to mind when thinking about older days, me an my friends had no clue who the guy with the rat was!

    but i remember changing my alligence to wcw because my dad wouldnt let me watch wrestling in our house :( so i went to my grans every friday night and she only had tnt so i watched nitro,followed by thunder!

    first time indy match i ever seen was johnny storm v aj styles in the FWA and my whole perception of what wrestling is about changed!i miss the wrestling channel, not twc fight or fight network,but the wrestling channel.that really showed me a great side to wrestling,with the supershows,the shoot interviews and tna(when it was truly awesome, still is good though)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    Welcome aboard! Anyone who bumps this thread other than me is alright in my books. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    dolittle wrote: »
    yeah thats it spot on, i forgot about the gorgeous ladies of GLOW.
    i remember them showing the unification of belts between jerry lawler and i`m sure it was kerry von erich

    Yep, the infamous Superclash III match where Lawler won and didn't get paid a dime from the AWA. That match was repeated several times on Screensport over the course of two years. Up til late 1990, which used to confuse the hell out of me because i wondered how Von Erich was in two promotions at once.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    dolittle wrote: »
    i remember them showing the unification of belts between jerry lawler and i`m sure it was kerry von erich

    God, I love the sh*t outa that match. Great, great old school classic that still holds up today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭dolittle


    i loved watching stampede
    the viet cong express, hiroshi hase, bad news allen, makhan singh, bruce keith owen hart, jason and the zodiac.
    great great wrestling


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    Splitting these to the Nostalgia discussin thread, has more of a home there.:)

    I never caught a lot of Stampede other from occasional tape trades. I did however catch some matches from the awesome Bret Hart/Bad News Allen feud.

    Gripping stuff. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭dolittle


    in stampede the endigs of the matches being interupted by the bad guys
    also remember ron simmons and ronnie garvin winning world titles from ric flair and flair winning it back from garvin in a cage
    nikita koloff, magnum ta dusty rhodes as the midnight cowboy

    the midnight rockers in awa

    the rock and roll express against the midnight express

    ah i`m gonna start blubbing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    Ye wrestling of ye olde really does make todays stuff look boring and repetetive. But what else do you do when it's all been done before?


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    dolittle wrote: »
    in stampede the endigs of the matches being interupted by the bad guys
    also remember ron simmons and ronnie garvin winning world titles from ric flair and flair winning it back from garvin in a cage
    nikita koloff, magnum ta dusty rhodes as the midnight cowboy

    the midnight rockers in awa

    the rock and roll express against the midnight express

    ah i`m gonna start blubbing
    Ha, you've just named half my roster from the Boards draft. You should have read of my TV shows in the Evaluation thread they might rekindle some memories.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭dolittle


    flahavaj wrote: »
    Ha, you've just named half my roster from the Boards draft. You should have read of my TV shows in the Evaluation thread they might rekindle some memories.;)

    just read through it
    great stuff lright
    i will be looking in in future


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    Was just watching some iMPACT! from late 2005, Monty Brown squash matches were great fun.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,522 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Was just watching some iMPACT! from late 2005, Monty Brown squash matches were great fun.


    I always enjoyed watching some poor sucker be hit with the pounce.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    DM-ICE wrote: »
    I always enjoyed watching some poor sucker be hit with the pounce.

    It really was fun, I always liked Monty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,640 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    I've been going through the Raw and Smackdown shows from 2000. Brings me back to my young teen years.

    One thing I found interesting was watching the Raw show when Linda announces that Foley is going to be in the main event for Wrestlemania. It looks like some guy comes out of the crowd before she speaks as you can see Hunter try and hit him with some shots. :pac:


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    I've been going through the Raw and Smackdown shows from 2000. Brings me back to my young teen years.

    One thing I found interesting was watching the Raw show when Linda announces that Foley is going to be in the main event for Wrestlemania. It looks like some guy comes out of the crowd before she speaks as you can see Hunter try and hit him with some shots. :pac:

    I actually started watching RAW from 2000 about six months ago, it bored me to tears that i ended up tuning to WCW stuff! Every monday it started off with an interview, got very stale, very quickly. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭Jolt2007


    Out of curiosity where do you get to watch these episodes from years gone by? It online or on dvd?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    Jolt2007 wrote: »
    Out of curiosity where do you get to watch these episodes from years gone by? It online or on dvd?

    DVD collection in my case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,470 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    i'm sure most have seen this...it's Ric Flair's attempt in 2002 to stop Vince bringing the NWO into the company.

    it still almost brings a tear to the eye ;)

    http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/the+rock+wwf/video/xv34r_wwf-desire-history-of-wwf_events


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    SlickRic wrote: »
    i'm sure most have seen this...it's Ric Flair's attempt in 2002 to stop Vince bringing the NWO into the company.

    it still almost brings a tear to the eye ;)

    http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/the+rock+wwf/video/xv34r_wwf-desire-history-of-wwf_events

    And i'm proud to say that i've seen most of it, as it happened, when it happened. :)


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,640 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    ShawnRaven wrote: »
    I actually started watching RAW from 2000 about six months ago, it bored me to tears that i ended up tuning to WCW stuff! Every monday it started off with an interview, got very stale, very quickly. ;)

    I see what you mean but I can put up with it during this period. I think it might be because I enjoy the chemistry Triple H and Rock had with one another. I must say as much as I've criticised him in recent years, I really enjoyed Triple H's character around 2000 and I think he was perhaps at his peak in this period.

    I do recall hating things in 2003 when Raw seemed to have this pattern. I found it much more difficult to enjoy then.
    SlickRic wrote:
    i'm sure most have seen this...it's Ric Flair's attempt in 2002 to stop Vince bringing the NWO into the company.

    it still almost brings a tear to the eye ;)

    http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance...-of-wwf_events

    Yeah I recall seeing that at the time too. Must rank as one of their best video packages ever. Was that done by David Sahadi? The guy who made a few top quality videos for WWE and then left for TNA?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    I see what you mean but I can put up with it during this period. I think it might be because I enjoy the chemistry Triple H and Rock had with one another. I must say as much as I've criticised him in recent years, I really enjoyed Triple H's character around 2000 and I think he was perhaps at his peak in this period.

    Can't and won't disagree there. HHH was at his best between 99-01, i've always said that. I would have appreciated him more in 2002-2005 too had he changed his style, but the 40lbs he'd put on while out with injury slowed him down too much for him to continue with the same style, and unfortunately, it showed.
    I do recall hating things in 2003 when Raw seemed to have this pattern. I found it much more difficult to enjoy then.

    Hunter was to blame for 2003 RAW not being enjoyable in my honest opinion, even when he suffered his groin strain around the summer of that year, he was still plaguing the start of RAW. I still remember the horrid pre recorded promo when he put a bounty on Goldberg. That pissed a lot of the IWC off at the time.

    However i've been watching PPV's here, specifically Unforgiven 03 where Orton goes against Michaels to begin his Legend Killer status, and it's actually not as bad as it was at the time. Hindsight is either 20/20 or else the current product is really making it look great! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,470 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    Yeah I recall seeing that at the time too. Must rank as one of their best video packages ever. Was that done by David Sahadi? The guy who made a few top quality videos for WWE and then left for TNA?

    i assume it was, since Sahadi only left about 2003 amidst all the Triple H, Kane and Katie Vick cr*p, amongst other things.

    agreed...definitely one of the best packages ever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    The one of those videos that I remember the best to this day is the Kurt Angle one with Coldplay playing in the background. I was never much of a Kurtie fan, but that was unreal.:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭MGSman123


    I've just been thinking... does anyone else on here relive the good old days? (I say relive, but I never actually lived in it properly due to overprotective parents, imho.)

    So last summer, I decided that I'd do something constructive and I began downloading WWF shows (Raw, Smackdown! and PPVs) from 1998 onwards. I'm downloading them all from a site which I'll link if there's enough interest. (They have packs of each show sorted monthly! 2000 was just completed!)

    Anyway, I've just watched Survivor Series 2000, and I loved it so much! Does anyone else relive it like this? I find that this stuff is well better than ANYTHING that’s on TV these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭D-FENS


    MGSman123 wrote: »
    So last summer, I decided that I'd do something constructive and I began downloading WWF shows

    Lol, most people finish the sentence “I decided that I'd do something constructive” with “and write a book, do some charity work or at the very least, put the bins out”. I’d hate to see you on a lazy, non-constructive day! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭kyp_durron


    Making a little house out of matches is constructive you big snob.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭MGSman123


    D-FENS wrote: »
    Lol, most people finish the sentence “I decided that I'd do something constructive” with “and write a book, do some charity work or at the very least, put the bins out”. I’d hate to see you on a lazy, non-constructive day! :D

    Haha! I see what you're getting at. But there's a lot of downloading involved there! Each show each month is about 2-3GB, so it's taken a while. It's well worth the bandwidth drain though! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭MGSman123


    kyp_durron wrote: »
    Making a little house out of matches is constructive you big snob.
    Eh, thanks? I've done that before. It may be constructive, but it's also very disappointing. Once you've built it, what do you do?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    MGSman123 wrote: »
    I'm downloading them all from a site which I'll link if there's enough interest.

    No You Wont as that kind of thing is against the charter, consider yourself warned....that is unless it is a 100% legal site which i doubt it is


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,376 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    survivor series 2000 i vaguely remember, austin and hhh was the only decent match on that card and that wasn't anything to write home about, summerslam 2009 wiped the floor with that ppv for match quality and surprises, this years other ppvs like backlash, mania and nwo were also better

    the really good ppvs around that time are summerslam 1998, Canadian Stampede (i know its not techically attitude era but still close enough), WM17 and summerslam 2002 but thats stuff across a 5 year period, when you look at it wwe were not really putting out amazing ppv after amazing ppv during the attitude era at all, the quality was similiar to today on average, the tv shows had far better storylines though, austin/bret, austin/dx and tyson, austin/rock austin/mcmahon, all brilliant tv, these days we get zero buildup (outside the orton/hhh buildup to mania which was excellent)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭D-FENS


    kyp_durron wrote: »
    Making a little house out of matches is constructive you big snob.


    I agree, I image that would take considerable effort, unlike watching a file download on your pc which was my point :rolleyes:

    Anyway, back on topic…I’d say more of my wrestling viewing these days is trips down memory lane rather that the modern day product.
    Through legally bought DVDs of course, I’m not a criminal like you MGSman123 :D (Another light hearted rib btw kyp_durron ;))


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭kyp_durron


    D-FENS wrote: »
    I agree, I image that would take considerable effort, unlike watching a file download on your pc which was my point :rolleyes:

    Anyway, back on topic…I’d say more of my wrestling viewing these days is trips down memory lane rather that the modern day product.
    Through legally bought DVDs of course, I’m not a criminal like you MGSman123 :D (Another light hearted rib btw kyp_durron ;))

    Sorry, I was making a matchstick house and feeling a little inadequate about having no job. I get very angry sometimes.

    @MGSman123: I plan on making a little village of matchstick houses, the town hall plans are being drawed up as we speak. Perhaps an aqueduct later, who knows what's in the pipeline.

    On topic, having watched the era first hand I can't sit back and enjoy any of it now, mostly cause I feel it hasn't aged well, or I have grown up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,735 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    survivor series 2000 i vaguely remember, austin and hhh was the only decent match on that card and that wasn't anything to write home about, summerslam 2009 wiped the floor with that ppv for match quality and surprises, this years other ppvs like backlash, mania and nwo were also better

    the really good ppvs around that time are summerslam 1998, Canadian Stampede (i know its not techically attitude era but still close enough), WM17 and summerslam 2002 but thats stuff across a 5 year period, when you look at it wwe were not really putting out amazing ppv after amazing ppv during the attitude era at all, the quality was similiar to today on average, the tv shows had far better storylines though, austin/bret, austin/dx and tyson, austin/rock austin/mcmahon, all brilliant tv, these days we get zero buildup (outside the orton/hhh buildup to mania which was excellent)

    Backlash 2000 too. Great PPV


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    MGSman123 wrote: »
    Eh, thanks? I've done that before. It may be constructive, but it's also very disappointing. Once you've built it, what do you do?

    Burn it. Burn it all.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    this thread has been merged with the general nostalgia thread please keep the thread on topic and on a fully legal footing (no talk of streams, torrents etc)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,960 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    folks what ever happen to the scott steiner of the wcw age

    not this big poppa pump

    I remember the scott in wcw when he was one of my favourite wrestlers around


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭aligator_am


    Haha, I remember watching the WWF back in my youth, Jake the Snake, Honky Tonk Man, Coco B Ware, Junkyard Dog all great stuff :D

    I always remember being really angry at Macho Man when he clobbered Ricky the Dragon Steamboat with the bell lol.

    The best part of the whole thing was doing the moves on yer mates / siblings, lol always remember getting a mate with a DDT, only realised after I'd done it that we were standing on cement :S


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    survivor series 2000 i vaguely remember, austin and hhh was the only decent match on that card and that wasn't anything to write home about, summerslam 2009 wiped the floor with that ppv for match quality and surprises, this years other ppvs like backlash, mania and nwo were also better

    the really good ppvs around that time are summerslam 1998, Canadian Stampede (i know its not techically attitude era but still close enough), WM17 and summerslam 2002 but thats stuff across a 5 year period, when you look at it wwe were not really putting out amazing ppv after amazing ppv during the attitude era at all, the quality was similiar to today on average, the tv shows had far better storylines though, austin/bret, austin/dx and tyson, austin/rock austin/mcmahon, all brilliant tv, these days we get zero buildup (outside the orton/hhh buildup to mania which was excellent)

    Agreed on the quality of PPV during the Attirtude Era. For such a highly regarded era in WWF's history, the quality of PPV's in hindsight wasn't that brilliant. 1999 in particular was very very poor for PPV's considering the talent in the company at the time and relative to the quality of the TV shows at the time.


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Headshot wrote: »
    folks what ever happen to the scott steiner of the wcw age

    not this big poppa pump

    I remember the scott in wcw when he was one of my favourite wrestlers around

    Steroids happened him.:(


Advertisement