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Foresty - Farmer premium

  • 25-03-2009 5:57pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 17


    Hi all,
    I inherited land some years ago which is very marginal and I am in the process of getting about 12 Hectares planted for forestry. Green belt are looking after the application for me. I am not a farmer myself but I have been told that if I reactivate my deceased relative's herd number then I could recieve the farmer premium instead of the non-frarmer rate.

    I would have to buy livestock and have them tested in order to qualify as a farmer. I have been told that I would only have to purchase one or two LU, keep them for a relatively short period and could then sell them on at a later date without continuing to keep livestock. I live a long way from the land and I would be relying on a friend to look after the livestock for me during this period.

    Does anyone have experince of going down this route or have I been ill informed?

    Thanks in advance,
    Barndancer


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 848 ✭✭✭ravima


    before you start at all, have a word with some one of the REPS advisors as you migth be able to get REPS payments as well as the Forestry payments.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    barndancer wrote: »
    Hi all,
    I inherited land some years ago which is very marginal and I am in the process of getting about 12 Hectares planted for forestry. Green belt are looking after the application for me. I am not a farmer myself but I have been told that if I reactivate my deceased relative's herd number then I could recieve the farmer premium instead of the non-frarmer rate.

    I would have to buy livestock and have them tested in order to qualify as a farmer. I have been told that I would only have to purchase one or two LU, keep them for a relatively short period and could then sell them on at a later date without continuing to keep livestock. I live a long way from the land and I would be relying on a friend to look after the livestock for me during this period.

    Does anyone have experince of going down this route or have I been ill informed?

    Thanks in advance,
    Barndancer

    You would also need to have generated over 25% of your income from farming activities in one of the 3 years preceding the application.

    You need to get proper advice on this- its not as simple as it sounds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 45 Johnnyr


    Have a look at the following link for details regarding the farmer premium rates and what you need to qualify. It is from the official dept website.
    http://www.agriculture.gov.ie/forestservice/publications/forestrymanual2004/chapter3premiumpaymentschemes/

    You should also check with GreenBelt, as I'm sure they would have experience with this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17 barndancer


    Thanks for the replies.

    I was thinking it sounded too ggod to be true. I will have to get further clarification from Greenbelt Rep as it was he who told me about this scenario in the first instance!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭johnstown


    As far as I recall, if you opt into REPS, and then go down the route of FEPS afforestation, then you are automatically deemed to be a farmer.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    johnstown wrote: »
    As far as I recall, if you opt into REPS, and then go down the route of FEPS afforestation, then you are automatically deemed to be a farmer.

    As far as I know you're right- but keep in mind this process can take up to 2 years (once inspections etc are factored into the equation).


  • Registered Users Posts: 17 barndancer


    smccarrick wrote: »
    You would also need to have generated over 25% of your income from farming activities in one of the 3 years preceding the application.

    You need to get proper advice on this- its not as simple as it sounds.

    Apparently the restrictions on having to reside within 70miles of the plantation and 25% of income from farming are no longer required to qualify as farmer. See the following link http://www.ireland-forestry.com/Afforestation%20Scheme.htm


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    Thanks for the update- I might make a forestry sticky over the weekend with the info in it- I'm sure its a question which will be asked again and again.....

    Cheers

    Shane


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