Eastenders [News, Spoilers and Discussion]

caseyann

Epicurus wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktpVHTg_cyw

Thats chilling stuff,and again very toned down to reality of it all.So you can imagine the real stuff.
Great bit of work without going over the top.
Tomorrow should be a very good episode.

Blatter

Agree on Whitney being stupid in it.

''He loves me, we're soul mate, I'm only doing him a favour for his mates''

Nope, sorry, I don't care how vulnerable you are, a girl of Whitney's age and experience couldn't possibly believe it. I don't buy it for one second, it's ridiculous.

Shazanne

It's not a case of being naive - that's what people are missing. It's a case of being damaged and vulnerable and reaching out for "love" or any form of affection or attention from anyone at all. She knows the truth deep down - that much is clear - but in her mind she has nowhere else to turn as noone wants her. I think EE is portraying this very well and as a previous poster said, reality is a whole lot worse.

kaa

ya because i read on the website that an actually young girl that went threw this helped whitney with the story and the writers of the show are telling this girls story....she said he drover her home, he put his number in her fone and he took hers and everything.

its a gud story line......but scary to think about it.....

cant wait to see what happens tonight in it......will she get away r will rob drag her back into the house???

Misticles

I havnt seen EE in agggess... can someone fill me in as to what Whitney is actually doing??

last I saw was when Lauren found her and she carried on walking into the club..

Blatter

Misticles wrote: »

I havnt seen EE in agggess... can someone fill me in as to what Whitney is actually doing??

last I saw was when Lauren found her and she carried on walking into the club..

She's a prostitute and that Rob guy is the pimp.

And get this, she dosen't even realise it and thinks she's just doin "favours" for his mates. She thinks her and Rob are in love and are "soulmates".

How unrealistically stupid is that?

Misticles

SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »

She's a prostitute and that Rob guy is the pimp.

And get this, she dosen't even realise it and thinks she's just doin "favours" for his mates. She thinks her and Rob are in love and are "soulmates".

How unrealistically stupid is that?

/facepalm

but I suppose some girls can be so vulnerable and naive to think that a guy who is "treating" them well or flashing the cash is being good to her and she feels compelled to do these "favours"

kaa

Misticles wrote: »

I havnt seen EE in agggess... can someone fill me in as to what Whitney is actually doing??

last I saw was when Lauren found her and she carried on walking into the club..

also there was 10min eposide on friday....and whitney went to the party and only realised what was actually going on because of another girl 2years down the line. and then that rob fella told her he was only interested in her because of her body. he locks her in a room and when she hears voices she breaks out a window and jumps from a porch. a family see her and she asks for a phone and rob roars at her out the window and its over........so u dont know if he got her or she got away or what....which is pretty annoying by the way....because you cant really stop in the middle of a good story line like that :mad: :mad:

Blatter

Misticles wrote: »

/facepalm

but I suppose some girls can be so vulnerable and naive to think that a guy who is "treating" them well or flashing the cash is being good to her and she feels compelled to do these "favours"

Nope, don't buy it for one second. It MIGHT have been a bit more believable if she had gotten really close to this Rob guy over a period of a few months, but a couple of meetings in the last few weeks and they're soul mates? Nah, no chance. Not a girl of Whitney's age or experience. Highly unrealistic IMO.

I know whitney's vulnerable but she's a sassy girl and that lad he looks too young, they cast the role badly, I could see her being more drawn into prostituting by someone a bit older who's got a bling lifestyle. In the same way as she tried to go for Max, if the guy was more of a hardnut and 'father figure' it would be more realistic. I know girls who've got into it through that, working in sex clubs where the blokes are all rich and flashy.

Also, from what we've seen of her personality, there's nothing to indicate she would let that lad act in violence against her. Maybe if they'd have shown him feeding her drugs I would have believed it. That is also how 99% of girls get caught in the situation and it would be more realistic.

As for Janine "I know the type" heh yeh we know you do!

caseyann

SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »

Nope, don't buy it for one second. It MIGHT have been a bit more believable if she had gotten really close to this Rob guy over a period of a few months, but a couple of meetings in the last few weeks and they're soul mates? Nah, no chance. Not a girl of Whitney's age or experience. Highly unrealistic IMO.

I know whitney's vulnerable but she's a sassy girl and that lad he looks too young, they cast the role badly, I could see her being more drawn into prostituting by someone a bit older who's got a bling lifestyle. In the same way as she tried to go for Max, if the guy was more of a hardnut and 'father figure' it would be more realistic. I know girls who've got into it through that, working in sex clubs where the blokes are all rich and flashy.

Also, from what we've seen of her personality, there's nothing to indicate she would let that lad act in violence against her. Maybe if they'd have shown him feeding her drugs I would have believed it. That is also how 99% of girls get caught in the situation and it would be more realistic.

As for Janine "I know the type" heh yeh we know you do!

even supplying her with drugs

When Whitney changes her mind, Rob forces her in the car and to the party he has organised

It seems they cut parts out!
http://hubpages.com/hub/Eastenders-Red-Nose-Day-Special-Whitney-Dean-escapes-Prostitution

They can hardly go all out especially with the controversy they got from the baby story.
Its called watching your back and keeping it partly unreal so people dont get to upset.

JP Liz V1

Bryan Kirkwood hinted at surprising developments in store for troubled mum Heather Trott, who has experienced a tough time in Walford lately.
He said: "Heather will find love with a mystery man whose identity will shock everyone. You might even know him already."

So who? Patrick, Darren, Greg or Phil or someone else

FreudianSlippers

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

So who? Patrick, Darren, Greg or Phil or someone else

lol Patrick!

ElectraX

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

lol Patrick!

Her and Darren were a pretty unlikely combination, so I wouldn't rule out anyone! Maybe it'll be Shirley:eek:

Epicurus

Ian was looking for a new woman last night. Heather wouldnt mind working in the cafe or the chippy and herself and Bobby share a love of cheese. Perfect match.

JP Liz V1

Jack will need someone when Ronnie leaves but he prefers dumb blonde Mitchells

Patrick and Heather is just so wrong as was her and Darren - for some reason I could see Patrick with Kim maybe

julyjane

My money's on Patrick

JP Liz V1

http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/tv/2011/03/23/eastenders-baby-swap-storyline-to-end-with-ronnie-branning-in-jail-115875-23008862/

Ronnie going to jail

FreudianSlippers

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Jack will need someone when Ronnie leaves but he prefers dumb blonde Mitchells

Patrick and Heather is just so wrong as was her and Darren - for some reason I could see Patrick with Kim maybe

I thought the word on the street was

Jack and Kat "bond" over the baby-snatching situation after Ronnie leaves

?

In light of what's said in the above link, perhaps in their rush to move that story along they've switched course.

Blatter

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/tv/2011/03/23/eastenders-baby-swap-storyline-to-end-with-ronnie-branning-in-jail-115875-23008862/

Ronnie going to jail

Would anyone have expected anything less?

It was either she flee London for good or stick around and face charges. I don't see how anyone could let her off over what she did. There was a baby snatched at the end of the day, nevermind the placing her dead son in the baby's cot to stage the wrong baby's death.

caseyann

SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »

Would anyone have expected anything less?

It was either she flee London for good or stick around and face charges. I don't see how anyone could let her off over what she did. There was a baby snatched at the end of the day, nevermind the placing her dead son in the baby's cot to stage the wrong baby's death.

I wouldnt send her to prison for it,not exactly in full faculties when she did it and when she tried to go back it was when ambulance had arrived.

But in saying that during the time when you baby isnt breathing you would ring an ambulance or stop someone on the street for help.Not wander around like that. Purely fictional basis that happened.
But then again because of her history it is possible she was having some kind of episode like someone who is shell shocked.
So no as she was mentally unstable or emotionally unstable she shouldn't go to prison.

kaa

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/tv/2011/03/23/eastenders-baby-swap-storyline-to-end-with-ronnie-branning-in-jail-115875-23008862/

Ronnie going to jail

wel i kinda thought that alright but i also thought she might have been carter off 2 d funny farm

kaa

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

So who? Patrick, Darren, Greg or Phil or someone else

i think it might be a blast from the past....or someone right under our noses.

but did ye see the way they were holding hands when they dropped the custody battle thing and after the way he hugged jody????....could be darren but that could be 2 obvious.....but that is what makes u thing WHO??? and then bam its him :eek:

i cant wait till she find loves because i love heather.....and it about time she met someone

Blatter

caseyann wrote: »

I wouldnt send her to prison for it,not exactly in full faculties when she did it and when she tried to go back it was when ambulance had arrived.

But in saying that during the time when you baby isnt breathing you would ring an ambulance or stop someone on the street for help.Not wander around like that. Purely fictional basis that happened.
But then again because of her history it is possible she was having some kind of episode like someone who is shell shocked.
So no as she was mentally unstable or emotionally unstable she shouldn't go to prison.

That's delusional tbh.

Being emotionally unstable isn't a reason to get off prison for a crime of that nature.

And even if she did have an ''episode'' when she swapped the babies, she should clearly be punished for holding on to the baby for as long as she has.

kaa

i agree she had an eposide when the baby died and she went blank but she was not mental ill or anything like that since the paramedics arrived untill now.....she knows what exactly she has done ....and by not doing anything about.....she is making it worse for herself. plus she is pushing everyone away so they dont see the baby and flips when he goes out......that is not been ill, thats been paronoid about gettin caught and covering your tracks. and she has had soooooo many chances to make it right but doesn't....thats planned!!!!

personally if some kidnapped my child i would want them behind bars not in a hospital for a couple of months......

Blatter

kaa wrote: »

i agree she had an eposide when the baby died and she went blank but she was not mental ill or anything like that since the paramedics arrived untill now.....she knows what exactly she has done ....and by not doing anything about.....she is making it worse for herself. plus she is pushing everyone away so they dont see the baby and flips when he goes out......that is not been ill, thats been paronoid about gettin caught and covering your tracks. and she has had soooooo many chances to make it right but doesn't....thats planned!!!!

personally if some kidnapped my child i would want them behind bars not in a hospital for a couple of months......

Exactly.

kaa

Epicurus wrote: »

Ian was looking for a new woman last night. Heather wouldnt mind working in the cafe or the chippy and herself and Bobby share a love of cheese. Perfect match.

ha ha very good

caseyann

SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »

That's delusional tbh.

Being emotionally unstable isn't a reason to get off prison for a crime of that nature.

And even if she did have an ''episode'' when she swapped the babies, she should clearly be punished for holding on to the baby for as long as she has.

Whats delusional

JP Liz V1

caseyann wrote: »

I wouldnt send her to prison for it,not exactly in full faculties when she did it and when she tried to go back it was when ambulance had arrived.

But in saying that during the time when you baby isnt breathing you would ring an ambulance or stop someone on the street for help.Not wander around like that. Purely fictional basis that happened.
But then again because of her history it is possible she was having some kind of episode like someone who is shell shocked.
So no as she was mentally unstable or emotionally unstable she shouldn't go to prison.

If I were Kat I'd kill her - she may not have been in her mind when she took the baby but afterwards she knew what she doing she has keep the baby so long she deserves a hefty prison punishment imo

kaa

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

If I were Kat I'd kill her - she may not have been in her mind when she took the baby but afterwards she knew what she doing she has keep the baby so long she deserves a hefty prison punishment imo

ya because i read somewhere when the truth comes out and Kat gets Tommy back......Kat says if she ever sees Ronnie again she will kill her!!!!!


But apartly when she gets Tommy back she has problems bonding so there is another story line straight away.....i understand why she can't bond but i hope it's not dragged out.

Blatter

caseyann wrote: »

Whats delusional

It's delusional that you think that Ronnie shouldn't go to prison over what she has done.

ElectraX

She should definitely go to jail-the fact that she has been able to act as a (semi) functioning mother for the last few months, shows she is not mentally ill.
I think it will be very hard for Kat and Alfie to bond with the baby after this, they've already gone through the whole grief proicess thinking he's dead!:eek:

caseyann

SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »

It's delusional that you think that Ronnie shouldn't go to prison over what she has done.

No its called empathy and decency.

ToniTuddle

caseyann wrote: »

No its called empathy and decency.

Ok that's fair enough maybe she doesn't deserve hardcore jail as such but she sure as hell deserves to be committed to a psych ward and NOT realeased for a long time until every single last issue she has is dealt with! And she is no longer a threat to mothers and their babies.

the_monkey

Why are Kat and Alfie going for IVF ?

Whats up with Alfie ? is he sterile ?

casio4

the_monkey wrote: »

Why are Kat and Alfie going for IVF ?

Whats up with Alfie ? is he sterile ?

i was thinking the same thing, why aren't they in bed jumping on each other but kat said the other day they don't sleep in the same bed anymore

Cookie33

casio4 wrote: »

i was thinking the same thing, why aren't they in bed jumping on each other but kat said the other day they don't sleep in the same bed anymore

Isn't Alfie quite old to have a child now? They might want a child now and not wait until she may get pregnant again

ElectraX

the_monkey wrote: »

Why are Kat and Alfie going for IVF ?

Whats up with Alfie ? is he sterile ?

Yep, he can't have kids. I really like Alfie, he's one of the most likeable characters in it:)

the_monkey

ElectraX wrote: »

Yep, he can't have kids. I really like Alfie, he's one of the most likeable characters in it:)

indeed, the best type of neighbour you could have

femur61

the_monkey wrote: »

Why are Kat and Alfie going for IVF ?

Whats up with Alfie ? is he sterile ?

Yeah he can't have kids.

kaa

poor alfie and it's a pity he cant have kids because i think he would be a great dad

JP Liz V1

I cant wait for Ronnie to f*ck off she is doing my head in

Blatter

I think Eastenders hit a new all time low tonight, it is getting so stupid.

Why the hell would Ronnie tell Michael that she is hiding something and say ''I can't tell you, you can never know''

So unrealistic.

Misticles

kaa wrote: »

poor alfie and it's a pity he cant have kids because i think he would be a great dad

I didnt know this, I was wondering why they were going for IVF!

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I cant wait for Ronnie to f*ck off she is doing my head in

+1

bubbaloo

kaa wrote: »

poor alfie and it's a pity he cant have kids because i think he would be a great dad

Agreed, but to be honest if his little swimmers are not working, IVF is not going to get her pregnant. They need a sperm donor!
I also agree that EE has gone way overboard with the whole Ronnie thing - saying what she said to Michael. Surely Michael would follow her to get an answer and he'd tell Jack too. It's all so stupid. I'd rather two good episodes a week than four crap ones! :rolleyes:

Aoiferz

Can we please get this storyline over with? I can't stand watching Ronnie going to confess and then saying something cryptic before running off in tears. Over and over.

Could you imagine if they hadn't shortened it?? :eek:

casio4

Kat and jean have just brought a tear to my eye, poor Kat

caseyann

Where is Ronnie going? :eek:

Blatter

caseyann wrote: »

Where is Ronnie going? :eek:

The police station, with any luck.

caseyann

SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »

The police station, with any luck.

Is this when she finally does it ? It will be a welcome end to a very boring story line.But i fear its going to be miserable afterwards.I cant handle anymore of this tripe script writing.:(

Blatter

caseyann wrote: »

Is this when she finally does it ? It will be a welcome end to a very boring story line.But i fear its going to be miserable afterwards.I cant handle anymore of this tripe script writing.:(

Hopefully.

But judging by how bad they've handled the story so far somebody will interven in the last second just as she's about to confess and the story will be dragged further.:(