Ireland V Bulgaria

kensutz

Some of mine

City-Exile

I especially like the last one.
The empty terrace behind Robbie takes from the image, I think.

kensutz

It does, I tried to get a spot on the corner facing into the Hogan/Cusack stand but they were all taken. It's the best we could hope for

City-Exile

You'd really want to get in early to get your spot.
Not so bad on Saturday, but the Germany game was mental and I'd expect the home game against Italy to be as bad.

kensutz

We were there a couple of hours before kick off but at half time with the rush up to the opposite end, we didn't have much room to pick and choose a place.

opti76

right due to a tragic lack of talent on my part im out


cant upload pics as im on one of those 3 dongle things and its acting the pure and utter maggot

City-Exile

opti76 wrote: »

right due to a tragic lack of talent on my part im out


cant upload pics as im on one of those 3 dongle things and its acting the pure and utter maggot

That's a right balls!
From what I saw on your camera, you had one, or two contenders.

AnimalRights

The 'ole chestnut again but for me they are cropped way too tight, if they're for a newspaper they wouldn't be here right?
It doesn't capture the feel of the wider action of the game...
Every time sports togs put pics up here it's the same type of shots.

Valentia

City-Exile wrote: »

Paulw, when you're there as a photographer, you just have to hope you get the right action. The challenges and tackles were well timed and often crunching.
There are very few games in the LoI where you get the same calibre of action. You'd be lucky to get one clean sliding tackle in a game.
There are also very few players in Ireland who are as strong as Petrov on the ball.
That's what makes for good pictures.

Ye were so so lucky ye had something to do to keep yere mind off the game. It was the most depressing **** I have seen in ages.

Paulw

AnimalRights wrote: »

The 'ole chestnut again but for me they are cropped way too tight, if they're for a newspaper they wouldn't be here right?
It doesn't capture the feel of the wider action of the game...
Every time sports togs put pics up here it's the same type of shots.

The type that would be used for the papers/websites, etc??

There's no real reason why an image posted here would not also be sent to papers or used by papers. That would be down to the photographer's licensing agreement.

I'd post stuff here that I would also sell to clubs or papers. They're my images and I own the copyright.

AnimalRights

But you could also post some here that you don't have to sell?
Just to vary the same pics we get here, also most people in this comp don't sell to newspapers?

Paulw

I don't really follow what you're asking for.

Surely the aim of any photographer is to produce an image that is properly prepared (edited, cropped, adjusted) and ready for print (either online, for yourself or by newspapers)? That would be the difference between just taking a photo, and posting it unprocessed, and then taking and posting a properly processed image.

TelePaul

AnimalRights wrote: »

It doesn't capture the feel of the wider action of the game...

What action? :P

AnimalRights

Are you really saying you can't work outside the parameters of the "newspaper Photo journo" mindset?
Some shots with the 16-35 that you possess would be interesting no?

It's like this golden rule that only close cropped up shots with ball is acceptable.
It gets tedious!

When I shoot gigs I don't just shoot the vocalists!
I try to mix and match it up...

1) Vocalist
2) Dual vocalists
3) Vocalist+crowd
4) Other band members with their chosen instrument.

I shall look through peoples pixies now to explain (hopefully) of the type of shot that should be thrown in just to vary the pics you guys normally post up.

AnimalRights

Am I allowed to post images here if I credit whoever took them?
They won't know I'm using them.

Paulw

AnimalRights wrote: »

When I shoot gigs I don't just shoot the vocalists!
I try to mix and match it up...

1) Vocalist
2) Dual vocalists
3) Vocalist+crowd
4) Other band members with their chosen instrument.

But, you only shoot musicians??? In sport, you photograph the players.

Some images have the ball, others don't. Some show the emotion of the players, some are of the crowds, etc. Many of those type are posted here too.

AnimalRights

http://pix.ie/whyulittle/486930
whyulittle
http://pix.ie/gambler/865157
gambler
http://pix.ie/soccerc/855076soccerc
soccerc
http://pix.ie/whyulittle/709852
whyulittle ( to me most of you guys would have cropped out the player to the left but he gives a story to the pic)
http://pix.ie/whyulittle/645346
whyulittle
http://pix.ie/whyulittle/754752
whyulittle ( again I like the way there is space to the right)
http://pix.ie/whyulittle/754745
whyulittle ( You can feel so much of the action here, from all concerned)
http://pix.ie/whyulittle/754730
whyulittle
http://pix.ie/whyulittle/651780
whyulittle

If not allowed remove moderator, or if any of the photographers object etc

I'm not saying cropped pics can't be used but just to mix the action up a bit more.

AnimalRights

Paulw wrote: »

But, you only shoot musicians??? In sport, you photograph the players.

Vocals and crowd

tight crop

I know Music and Soccer is diff but was only using it as a rough guide.

Not dissing yas just more a debate really.

If I could get a pass for Dalymount I would take pics to try new types of things.

Paulw

I don't get it. There's nothing that different in those examples, from the ones posted in this thread, other than the scenes are wider. It's more down to the selection of photos posted as opposed to the crop of the images.

What about images like



Or



Is that along the lines of what you're talking about???

AnimalRights

Yeah they are wider, you're getting there.
BTW I am not saying you or the others can't do them but I am saying what you post up here is always the really tight cropped ones!
Seriously it's just something that I wanted to get off my chest.
Did you look at all the links!!

Paulw

AnimalRights wrote: »

Yeah they are wider, you're getting there.
BTW I am not saying you or the others can't do them but I am saying what you post up here is always the really tight cropped ones!
Seriously it's just something that I wanted to get off my chest.
Did you look at all the links!!

Again, it's all a matter of preference and choice. I, and I'm sure the others too, would have wider shots of scenes, etc, but only a small number of images taken would be processed, and a much smaller selection posted here. It's just down to what people think are their good shots, etc.

I did look at all the links. One or two I might disagree with the crop, but then again, that would be my choice. The photographer has the right to process and crop any way they like.

Nothing wrong with a debate about style or choice of photos.

soccerc

Is this more of what you mean?

AnimalRights

Kinda, I linked the ones earlier (esp when I added the comments in brackets)

I also like the rawness of newbie sport togs, while they are not newspaper standards they do capture the grassroots of the game too.

Ricky91t

I assumed when you said about Pauls 16-35 you meant like very wide shots,Those are just slightly wider than what kensutz originally posted .

soccerc

AnimalRights wrote: »

Kinda, I linked the ones earlier (esp when I added the comments in brackets)

I also like the rawness of newbie sport togs, while they are not newspaper standards they do capture the grassroots of the game too.

I'm more confused now:D

AnimalRights

Ricky91t wrote: »

I assumed when you said about Pauls 16-35 you meant like very wide shots,Those are just slightly wider than what kensutz originally posted .

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=59614929&postcount=52

I was commenting on these, they are surely not 16-35?
I am playing online poker at moment so can't check the exif.

Paulw

Ricky91t wrote: »

I assumed when you said about Pauls 16-35 you meant like very wide shots,

This would be (I think) the only image I've taken at a sports event with the 16-35mm.

steelydan99

You should use it more Paul, great shot

.Longshanks.

Its not the sharpest cos my lens only goes to f/5.6 when zoomed in but i like it

AnimalRights

There is lots going on though, the players watching the ball and the crowd...I don't expect every shot to be wide like this but I do like variety, I am down 35k in the poker btw

.Longshanks.

AnimalRights wrote: »

There is lots going on though, the players watching the ball and the crowd...I don't expect every shot to be wide like this but I do like variety, I am down 35k in the poker btw

35k :eek:

AnimalRights

Not real money but it's an online game and like anything I do I don't like losing!
I mean I hate when I lose at compter games!

Ricky91t

AnimalRights wrote: »

Are you really saying you can't work outside the parameters of the "newspaper Photo journo" mindset?
Some shots with the 16-35 that you possess would be interesting no?

It's like this golden rule that only close cropped up shots with ball is acceptable.
It gets tedious!

When I shoot gigs I don't just shoot the vocalists!
I try to mix and match it up...

1) Vocalist
2) Dual vocalists
3) Vocalist+crowd
4) Other band members with their chosen instrument.

I shall look through peoples pixies now to explain (hopefully) of the type of shot that should be thrown in just to vary the pics you guys normally post up.

AnimalRights wrote: »

http://pix.ie/whyulittle/486930
whyulittle
http://pix.ie/gambler/865157
gambler
http://pix.ie/soccerc/855076soccerc
soccerc
http://pix.ie/whyulittle/709852
whyulittle ( to me most of you guys would have cropped out the player to the left but he gives a story to the pic)
http://pix.ie/whyulittle/645346
whyulittle
http://pix.ie/whyulittle/754752
whyulittle ( again I like the way there is space to the right)
http://pix.ie/whyulittle/754745
whyulittle ( You can feel so much of the action here, from all concerned)
http://pix.ie/whyulittle/754730
whyulittle
http://pix.ie/whyulittle/651780
whyulittle

If not allowed remove moderator, or if any of the photographers object etc

I'm not saying cropped pics can't be used but just to mix the action up a bit more.

I was referring to this,You mention Pauls 16-35 and then you link to tight action shots again..

.Longshanks.

AnimalRights wrote: »

Not real money but it's an online game and like anything I do I don't like losing!
I mean I hate when I lose at compter games!

But of course!! If I had 35K to loose in the first place i wouldn't still be at work

AnimalRights

Ricky91t wrote: »

I was referring to this,You mention Pauls 16-35 and then you link to tight action shots again..

Which particular shot, I didn't say every shot had to be 16-35!!!

Ricky91t

AnimalRights wrote: »

Which particular shot, I didn't say every shot had to be 16-35!!!

Ok let me explain...

You referred to pauls 16-35 saying he could get wider shots with it which would be nice,But then you post 9 link's to images which are shot at 200-300 mm i was expecting to see wide angle shots as that is said to paul...

And the above images have little difference to kensutz pics other than a slightly closer crop

soccerc

I'll bear in mind AR's requirements on Wednesday night in Bari, provided of course he commissions and pays in real money, not fantasy online poker tokens

AnimalRights

Ricky91t wrote: »

Ok let me explain...

You referred to pauls 16-35 saying he could get wider shots with it which would be nice,But then you post 9 link's to images which are shot at 200-300 mm i was expecting to see wide angle shots as that is said to paul...

And the above images have little difference to kensutz pics other than a slightly closer crop

There were virtually none with 16-35 shots to find!
I remember Paul posting that shot before with the 16-35, why I mentioned it.

The majority of the pics I picked were nowhere near as tight as Kens.

AnimalRights

soccerc wrote: »

I'll bear in mind AR's requirements on Wednesday night in Bari, provided of course he commissions and pays in real money, not fantasy online poker tokens

You're going over there?
Lucky you!
Lovely small stadium with bags of atmosphere I would imagine....should make for some good shots.

soccerc

Yeah AR, off to Bari tomorrow for the game.

Cloudn't resist this one

I vank ov

City-Exile

Thanks for absolutely destroying the thread, Animalrights!

AnimalRights

Your a bigger boy than most of us here P.
Great pic SoccerC, good imagination too.

Dodgykeeper

Will have the entries up in a few mins (sorry for delay was at funeral all day and then pre baptism course :mad:)

I wil be setting up a poll in the photo challenge sub forum for this one!

shepthedog

Is the photo challenge area the best for this????
I have to say I rarely drop in there and think this thread may not get the audience it deserves if doesnt get the attention.. Can we leave this in main forum???

Dodgykeeper

Poll is here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055526031

Ballyman

Dodgykeeper wrote: »

pre bapism course :mad:)

What in the name of god is a pre baptism course???

Dodgykeeper

Ballyman wrote: »

What in the name of god is a pre baptism course???

Its when some pompous fooker explains the secrement of baptism and generally bores you to tears!

It was an hour I am never getting back!

shepthedog

You did the crime, now you gotta do the time, of roughly the next 18 years!!!

Dodgykeeper wrote: »

Its when some pompous fooker explains the secrement of baptism and generally bores you to tears!

It was an hour I am never getting back!

City-Exile

Here are some of my shots...

soccerc

City-Exile wrote: »

Here are some of my shots...

As the actress said to the bishop, amazing what a few inches does!

Nice one's Peadar