Which amp?

Notorious · 28-03-2009 1:43pm #1

Howdy!
I'm looking for a new amp for my Strat. I've been plugging in for the last three months, before that I was just an acoustic player. I decided to just pick up a small, cheap second-hand amp from adverts.ie. Turns out this wasn't the best of ideas as the amp just sounds crap, though it was expected with the price.

So here goes. I'm a 22 year old student on a budget of about €200 (I can go a bit above). I'm looking for a solid state practice amp, around 20W or 30W. At the moment I'm mainly playing blues, and I'd listen to bands like the Smiths, Bob Dylan, Joy Division, King Crimson and so on. I've been browsing on Thomann and I've been considering:

Roland Cube 20x
Roland Cube 30x
Orange Crush 30r
Marshall MG30DFx

Anyone have any experience with any of the above, or have any other suggestions?

Dmullar · 28-03-2009 2:31pm

Id go with the Vox AD15VT if I had the choice, Unfortunately its only 15 watts, but can be gotten for €175 in xmusic.

Gary ITR · 28-03-2009 2:33pm

The cubes are savage little things. The Marshall MG series isn't great now tbh. I woldn't bother with any sub €500 Marshall tbh

darrenw5094 · 28-03-2009 6:25pm

Roland Cubes are probably the best option for practice amps. They all have EQ, various overdrives and some effects. If it is just for bedroom noodling, then that will do the job as good as if not better than any other in it's price range.

For €200 you could get a 5w valve amp from Fender or Peavey from some of the UK sites.

toolbox66 · 30-03-2009 8:45pm

No selling here.

feylya

funkydunkey · 31-03-2009 12:29pm

would you consider using a Line6 Pod throught the clean chanel? Would get a wealth of sounds out of it. and the pocket version is fine and cheap. grand yoke for jammin.

Eoin Madsen · 31-03-2009 1:12pm

Notorious wrote: »

I've been browsing on Thomann and I've been considering:

Roland Cube 20x
Roland Cube 30x
Orange Crush 30r
Marshall MG30DFx

Anyone have any experience with any of the above, or have any other suggestions?

The Roland Cubes seem to be about as good as you get in that kind of budget. I think something by Line6 would be comparable. I don't know anything about that particular Orange.

Strike the Marshall MG off your list and never speak of it again.

Fingers Mcginty · 31-03-2009 2:36pm

microcube...I believe there is one for sale on adverts.ie at the mo...BTW what crap amp did you buy?

Zangetsu · 31-03-2009 4:03pm

If your playing blues I've found the Vox AD15/30's are better then the microcubes, sweet sounds out of them and you can probably find one second hand for quite cheap...

Notorious · 02-04-2009 1:08am

Cheers for the pointers folks. Looks like I'll be going for the Cube 30x. Heard a 20x yesterday and man were there some sweet sounds coming out of it. The range of effects will make for some good messing about too.
I did consider a 5w valve amp, but I'll be jamming with a group so I'll want to be heard!

funky dunkey wrote:

would you consider using a Line6 Pod throught the clean chanel? Would get a wealth of sounds out of it. and the pocket version is fine and cheap. grand yoke for jammin.

I will check out the Pod though. Haven't played with one of them before.

Zangetsu · 02-04-2009 1:12am

The pods are unbelievable, got an X3 and I use it for bass and guitar, literally endless amount of sounds out of it!

CianRyan · 02-04-2009 12:44pm

You'll be heard with a 5w tube amp.
Nothing like solid state.

__Robinhood__ · 02-04-2009 2:28pm

ive a pd x3live, unreal, dont even know half of the stuff it can do yet

darrenw5094 · 02-04-2009 5:17pm

Valve amps are much louder than the solid state amps of the same wattage.

5w valve amp would be as loud as a 30w solid state. Better sound too, but they would be a bit more expensive.

Eoin Madsen · 02-04-2009 5:29pm

darrenw5094 wrote: »

5w valve amp would be as loud as a 30w solid state. Better sound too, but they would be a bit more expensive.

The loudness thing, yeah, but the tone is subjective. Some of the little 5 watt SE amps going at the moment are trash tbh, and I'd take a 30 watt modeller over them any day. It's hard to find a solidstate amp with a tone like a great valve amp, but there's plenty of valve amps with tones that suck just as badly as any solidstate.

darrenw5094 · 02-04-2009 6:18pm

It needs to be loud enough to jam with, including a drummer though. Not a wall of noise like the Metallica shows......but, it's enjoyable noise.

CianRyan · 02-04-2009 10:58pm

Tell you're drummer to buy these and stop playing so hard.
http://www.thomann.de/ie/millenium_t51_schlagzeugbesen.htm

Better deal for everyone.

Honestly for you though, i'd saving a little longer and get something nicer.
http://www.thomann.de/ie/fender_pro_junior.htm
http://www.thomann.de/ie/fender_blues_junior.htm

No experience with this amp, but its ment to be pretty nice. http://www.thomann.de/ie/fender_super_champ_xd.htm

Again, no experience, but heard good reviews.
http://www.thomann.de/ie/epiphone_valve_junior_epajr_gitarrencombo.htm

Seziertisch · 02-04-2009 11:18pm

A bit more expensive than 200 yo-yos but the Blackstar HT5 looks like a pretty rockin' bit of kit.

Eoin Madsen · 03-04-2009 1:22pm

Nah, I think the OP has the right idea. A microcube is good quality:cost ratio. Saving for a slightly less low-end but still low-end amp is kind of a waste of time and money at this point.

adox · 03-04-2009 3:25pm

Just picked up a micro cube over in X Music today as a neighbour friendly soloution for my messing about at home.

I honestly cany gage how loud I am ever playing so having something so small as an option should be great.

Cant wait to get it home this evening and give it a try.:D

Quattroste · 03-04-2009 4:34pm

I had a Cube 30 and it was great for messing at home. However, I have recently bought a Pocket Pod (€90) and that led me to the X3 Live because the Line 6 Pod range is really good. I have not played or heard any of the Line 6 modular amps but if the POD is anything to go by then they would probably be equal to or better than the Cube, so another option for ya.

Notorious · 03-04-2009 5:08pm

adox wrote: »

Just picked up a micro cube over in X Music today as a neighbour friendly soloution for my messing about at home.

I honestly cany gage how loud I am ever playing so having something so small as an option should be great.

Cant wait to get it home this evening and give it a try.:D

I got mine in X Music yesterday. Went up to give it a test run and was pleasantly suprised to find that it was 20e cheaper than on Thomann. I'm delighted with the amp so far. It's a bargain for under 200e.

adox · 03-04-2009 6:21pm

Notorious wrote: »

I got mine in X Music yesterday. Went up to give it a test run and was pleasantly suprised to find that it was 20e cheaper than on Thomann. I'm delighted with the amp so far. It's a bargain for under 200e.

I should have said it was the original micro cube I bought - €99

CianRyan · 03-04-2009 7:12pm

I got a micro cube about a year and a half ago, was given it for christmas, don't like it at all tbh.
I use a korg pandora and my scullcandies(big expencive earphones) for late night playing, so as not to disturb.

adox · 03-04-2009 10:53pm

Haha love this video:

Eoin Madsen · 04-04-2009 12:15pm

Eoin Madsen wrote: »

Nah, I think the OP has the right idea. A microcube is good quality:cost ratio.

I actually meant to say Roland Cube in general rather than Microcube.

willdufauve · 06-04-2009 5:08am

Fender Champ 600 re-issue. 6V6/12AX7.
Epiphone Valve Junior combo or head. EL-84/12AX7.

Both are very loud 5 watt valve amps in your price range, even louder w/ an extension cab, Champ has cleaner sound than the VJR, both have great tone and cool vintage vibe for blues & rock. I own both, great bargains, light and easy to carry.

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