Best Premier League striker/forward?

therecklessone

Judging players on their record while at a PL club only, so that includes games in European competition plus internationals if applicable.

edit - for clarity, please consider players records while they were playing PL football. That may include domestic and continental cups plus internationals, but time spent outside England, in lower divisions, or in the old 1st Division should not count.

I can think of many candidates:

Shearer
Van Nistelrooy
Owen
Fowlers
Henry
Bergkamp
Cole
Ferdinand
Torres
Zola
Drogba
Cantona
Hasselbaink
Yorke
Anelka
Sheringham
Rooney
Ian Wright
Le Tiss
Di Canio

Any more?

ScholesyIsGod

Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink and Dwight Yorke have to be up there as well.

therecklessone

Jaysus, nearly left out one biggie...:D

Mr. Incognito

You forgot:

Anelka
Bellamy
Rooney
Ian Wright
Le Tiss
Di Canio

CHD

He's not up there with them but Kevin Davies has got to be one of the hardest working strikers in his PL career.

Le Tissier was good.

whatawaster

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

You forgot:

Anelka
Bellamy
Rooney
Ian Wright
Le Tiss
Di Canio

no, no, no, no, no

ScholesyIsGod

Teddy Sheringham as well almost forgot about him

therecklessone

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

You forgot:

Anelka
Bellamy
Rooney
Ian Wright
Le Tiss
Di Canio

Five I'll add.

Bellamy is nowhere near that list IMO.

Samurai

ravenelli maybe vialli?

ScholesyIsGod

What about Klinsman does he desreve to on the list? i know he didnt spend too much time in the Premier League but he was a great that played in it.

Iang87

Peter Crouch Crouch Crouch

Samurai

klinsmann defo wouldve thought a spurs fan would have him down :rolleyes:

sweetie

in fairness robbie keane's record should have him in there too

therecklessone

How's about this for an idea?

I pick 16 forwards (with your help) that fit the bill, and we have a series of polls to get the opinion of the forum.

Do it like a knockout tournament, one player vs one player, withthe winner advancing to the next round. We'd have:

Last 16
Last 8
Semi Final
Final

If there were enough volunteers, I could do a draw to assign a poster to each player and you could argue the case for him?

Iang87

therecklessone wrote: »

How's about this for an idea?

I pick 16 forwards (with your help) that fit the bill, and we have a series of polls to get the opinion of the forum.

Do it like a knockout tournament, one player vs one player, withthe winner advancing to the next round. We'd have:

Last 16
Last 8
Semi Final
Final

If there were enough volunteers, I could do a draw to assign a poster to each player and you could argue the case for him?

I like it Mr Mod man go for it

iregk

I was just about to ask what the object of this was. Is it simply compiling a list of good strikers or are we looking to achieve who is best type thing.

The problem here is fans of particular teams bias and recent year blinkers. If its premiership history then surely there can be no-one other than Alan Shearer and how come Mark Hughes isn't on the list?

therecklessone

iregk wrote: »

The problem here is fans of particular teams bias and recent year blinkers.

It's not scientific, it's just a bit of fun. I'll encourage people to vote without their red/green/blue/white/black&white/can't be arsed typing any other colours tinted glasses on, but there's only so much I can do.

iregk wrote: »

If its premiership history then surely there can be no-one other than Alan Shearer and how come Mark Hughes isn't on the list?

I left Hughes off by accident, but I don't think he'd make the top 16 based on his PL record. Do you?

Dub13

Your all a bunch of Sky Sports Generation fans,:).

ROCKMAN

therecklessone wrote: »

How's about this for an idea?

I pick 16 forwards (with your help) that fit the bill, and we have a series of polls to get the opinion of the forum.

Do it like a knockout tournament, one player vs one player, withthe winner advancing to the next round. We'd have:

Last 16
Last 8
Semi Final
Final

If there were enough volunteers, I could do a draw to assign a poster to each player and you could argue the case for him?

This way could lead to a very unfair/unbalanced winner.How will the draw be decided ? Open draw?
For example
Shearer was drawed/put up against Henry in round 1.we would lose 1 striker which could/should be top 5ish if not better finishing in 8th to 16th spot, or two weaker players drawed against each other and one going through which (both cases) would be wrong .If you know what i mean ?

How about a round of votes
Round 1 list of 16 all voters(posters) have three votes, Top 10 go through
Round 2 list of 10 all voters have three votes Top 5 go through
Round 3 list of 5 all voters have three votes top 2 go through
FINAL STRAIGHT VOTE OFF

Extra votes for posters in early rounds will help balance any tinted glasses


thinking about it ..Maybe this could be alot/too much work ...maybe

therecklessone

Dub13 wrote: »

Your all a bunch of Sky Sports Generation fans,:).

I got the idea from the comment on the Mickeys thread, ergo it is all your fault.

So there.

:P

Panthro

what about chris sutton?...
oh wait no he was ****e...
flo
he was here,
he was there,
he was on the bench a lot
super sub..super sub..

Daysha

Do what my own forum does. Four 4-way matches with the top two qualifying for the quarters. Then two 4-way matches with the top two qualifying for the semis. Then 1st vs 2nd and 2nd vs 1st in the semis, with the two winners in the final.

The problem with Rockmans procedure is it can be clear very early on whose going to win, making the rest of the tourney a bit boring. Say Henry is 10-15 votes clear on top in round 1. If that happens you may as well call off the competition.

With the way I have above, it's simple, easy to use, exciting and fair.

I definitely wouldn't have a straight 1v1 knockout either too.

event

Dub13 wrote: »

Your all a bunch of Sky Sports Generation fans,:).

well the premier league is only around since sky, so yes, i suppose you're right

Dub13

event wrote: »

well the premier league is only around since sky, so yes, i suppose you're right

My views on this are well knowing on this forum.

Xavi6

Kevin Phillips

Mr Alan

Rooney shouldnt be anywhere near the top 16 imo

Xavi6

Actually, Heskey should be there. He's a member of the '100 Club' afterall.

Mr Alan

Cole
Shearer
Sheringham
Bergkamp
Henry
Wright
Di Canio
Le Tissier
Ferdinand
Anelka
Fowler
Owen
Hasselbank
Zola
Van Nist

cant think of a 16th that really deserves to be there. Maybe Keane or Heskey :eek:

Headshot

solskjaer

therecklessone

Xavi6 wrote: »

Actually, Heskey should be there. He's a member of the '100 Club' afterall.

If the question was PL strikers with the best middle names (Emile William Ivanhoe Heskey)

Mr Alan

Headshot wrote: »

solskjaer

nah, the likes of Keane,Heskey,Viduka,Dublin should all be there ahead of him

Xavi6

therecklessone wrote: »

If the question was PL strikers with the best middle names (Emile William Ivanhoe Heskey)

So Heskey and his 100-odd goals are not worthy of a place but Wayne Rooney is?

ROCKMAN

Daysha wrote: »

Do what my own forum does. Four 4-way matches with the top two qualifying for the quarters. Then two 4-way matches with the top two qualifying for the semis. Then 1st vs 2nd and 2nd vs 1st in the semis, with the two winners in the final.

The problem with Rockmans procedure is it can be clear very early on whose going to win, making the rest of the tourney a bit boring. Say Henry is 10-15 votes clear on top in round 1. If that happens you may as well call off the competition.

With the way I have above, it's simple, easy to use, exciting and fair.

I definitely wouldn't have a straight 1v1 knockout either too.

Like this format .

LuckyLloyd

Strikers to have scored 100 goals or more in the premiership:

Alan Shearer 260
Andrew Cole 187
Thierry Henry 174
Robbie Fowler 161
Les Ferdinand 150
Teddy Sheringham 147
Michael Owen 139
Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink 128
Dwight Yorke 123
Ian Wright 113
Dion Dublin 111
Robbie Keane 105
Matt Le Tissier 101
Emile Heskey 100


The likes of Torres, Rooney et al aren't in the conversation for me at this stage of their careers.

therecklessone

Mr Alan wrote: »

Cole
Shearer
Sheringham
Bergkamp
Henry
Wright
Di Canio
Le Tissier
Ferdinand
Anelka
Fowler
Owen
Hasselbank
Zola
Van Nist

cant think of a 16th that really deserves to be there. Maybe Keane or Heskey :eek:

Cantona.

Fratton Fred

Mr Alan wrote: »

Cole
Shearer
Sheringham
Bergkamp
Henry
Wright
Di Canio
Le Tissier
Ferdinand
Anelka
Fowler
Owen
Hasselbank
Zola
Van Nist

cant think of a 16th that really deserves to be there. Maybe Keane or Heskey :eek:

Drogba and Torres.

personally, I think Drogba is one of the best forwards I have seen live. His strength, movement and touch are all perfect imho.

Headshot

Mr Alan wrote: »

nah, the likes of Keane,Heskey,Viduka,Dublin should all be there ahead of him

what

Al. heskey ahead of solskjaer

those goggles must be cutting of the circulation to the brain;)

Mr Alan

Cantona is the most over-rated player ever.

Drogba & Torres haven't don enough for me tbh to merit a place in this list.

(it hurt to say that about the boy but its true)

Headshot

opened a can of worms there Al

therecklessone

Xavi6 wrote: »

So Heskey and his 100-odd goals are not worthy of a place but Wayne Rooney is?

I put Rooney into the list for consideration, I didn't argue with the point Al made that Rooney didn't belong in the 16 did I?

Heskey has scored 102 league goals in 13 seasons, if you play long enough you'll score enough goals IMO, but that's a poor rate of goalscoring. His overall record is about 1 in every 4 while playing PL football. His international record is 6 in 52 appearances, only 2 of which were in competitive games.

I think he's an effective player, but I'd have Cantona, Keane, Phillips at least ahead of him. Fcuk it, he only played a season and a half but I'd have Klinsmann in as well.

Xavi6

Mr Alan wrote: »

Cantona is the most over-rated player ever.

Twice now I've agreed with you in this thread. Something's not right! :pac:

JPA

A Shearer - Henry final.
Imagine that partnership. :eek:

Frisbee

Xavi6 wrote: »

Actually, Heskey should be there. He's a member of the '100 Club' afterall.

If that qualifies you then Dion Dublin as well

LuckyLloyd

JPA wrote: »

A Shearer - Henry final.
Imagine that partnership. :eek:

If you kept those two fit and together at their peaks you'd never lose, right?

JPA

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

If you kept those two fit and together at their peaks you'd never lose, right?

You might lose 5-4. But you would think you'd always score.

Xavi6

therecklessone wrote: »

I put Rooney into the list for consideration, I didn't argue with the point Al made that Rooney didn't belong in the 16 did I?

No but Heskey didn't make the OP, despite hitting over 100 goals so does that not mean that he isn't deemed good enough?

therecklessone

Xavi6 wrote: »

No but Heskey didn't make the OP, despite hitting over 100 goals so does that not mean that he isn't deemed good enough?

The original left out quite a few names mate, including Rooney

If I'm honest, and I'm judging both players on what I've seen them do during their time playing while at a PL club, I'd say Rooney is a much better player than Heskey. I'm sure when Rooney has completed his 13th PL season he'll have a much better goal tally than Heskey for a start.

Xavi6

therecklessone wrote: »

The original left out quite a few names mate, including Rooney

If I'm honest, and I'm judging both players on what I've seen them do during their time playing while at a PL club, I'd say Rooney is a much better player than Heskey. I'm sure when Rooney has completed his 13th PL season he'll have a much better goal tally than Heskey for a start.

Possibly so, but we all know that if this was just a debate about goals it'd be pretty straight forward.

Heskey brings so much more to the team than goals, hence his consistent inclusion at international level under various managers.

I'd have him in there above Di Canio at least.

Smegball

Xavi6 wrote: »

Possibly so, but we all know that if this was just a debate about goals it'd be pretty straight forward.

Heskey brings so much more to the team than goals, hence his consistent inclusion at international level under various managers.

I'd have him in there above Di Canio at least.

But then so does Rooney and brings alot more to a team imo.

kinaldo

Duncan Ferguson (when not injured)

An in-form Dunc was unplayable and unstoppable.

Mr Alan

Ian Rush played in the premier league so is eligable.

469 games, 229 goals.

He has to be in it.