The "I HATE TRIPLE H" MEGA bashing thread 2016 RE-OPEN

GTR63

starviewadams wrote: »

Where did the MMA rules match rumour come from?

I'd really doubt Vince would okay such a match,especially at Mania tbh.

Its apparently been discussed along with a HIAC match and probably something along the lines of a street fight.
They had boxing matches at 2 manias with Butterbean so it wouldn't be a huge thing.
Really think Rock vs Cena is the one that will need rest periods that and Ciano316.

Charisteas

Loathe Him

starviewadams wrote: »

Where did the MMA rules match rumour come from?

I'd really doubt Vince would okay such a match,especially at Mania tbh.

Our over active imaginations I guess.

It's going to be stipulations that work in Brock's favour, so what does he have experience in doing that Triple H doesn't? MMA. Realistically it's more likely to be a regular street fight or no holds barred but MMA would be intriguing.

Plus Triple H beating Brock Lesnar in a MMA match is Vince sticking two fingers up at MMA.

starviewadams

Loathe Him

True enough I suppose,would hate to see HHH/Brock in a MMA style match meself though,can't see it working.

Charisteas

Loathe Him

Yeah but it's Wrestlemania, it's about intriguing looking matches on paper that will sell the PPV. The quality of the matches is secondary, you'll have to wait for Extreme Rules for a better quality wrestling show!

Mr.Saturn

Loathe Him

Lesnar/Heyman getting the stip-rights does open a floodgate for fantasy-booking. Heyman getting the COO or a exec gig as a result of a Lesnar win opens up a lot of room to play with the post-WM/Summer window; roster-wide consequences and whatnot. I can see money in HHH finally getting the drop on Lesnar at WM, only to be screwed in some fashion, and having to claw his way into another gimmick rematch come Summerslam, where he finally gets the 'W'.

There's no harm, Lesnar'd have 7 and a half months to rebuild. Well, not that he'd need to, but there'd be plenty of chance for some Brock savagery between SSlam '13 and WM30; get the ball rolling on whatever he's doing on Apr 6th.

Mind, a heel winning a marquee/event bout at 'Mania is pretty rare. HHH and Orton are the only ones that immediately spring to mind.

rovert

Raw Spoiler:

Of the four Brock PPV matches THREE are with HHH

:eek:

gnfnrhead

rovert wrote: »

Raw Spoiler:

Of the four Brock PPV matches THREE are with HHH

:eek:

I wouldnt say their are many people who want to face him. He doesnt exactly seem careful.

gimmick

Time to bring this back from the ashes.

I really hate the fact that the Pedigree was made look so ridiculously strong at Summerslam. By all means, be in cahoots with Orton to do it, but it felt like the manoeuvre was made to look far too devastating with it flooring Bryan for so long.

Looks like he will be stinking up our screens again for quite some time. At least as a heel though. He is an insufferable face.

rovert

SlickRic

yup, no need for the Pedigree to look so strong whatsoever.

but there was no way he was letting Bryan kick out of it yet. sure he barely lets Cena kick out of it.

anyone remember WM24? Pedigree on Cena. 1.........2...........punt from Orton on Hunter. 1.............2..............3. and Hunter almost makes the save.

the lad must've been fully aware of his "ego" line in that Monday programme being the most ridiculous thing ever said on television.

GTR63

"Paul Michael Levesque[1] (born July 27, 1969),[4] better known by his ring name Triple H (an abbreviation of his character's full name, Hunter Hearst
Helmsley), is an American professional wrestler, business executive, actor, former bodybuilder and Fúcking R*arded Massive Stupid Cùnt.
Levesque currently works in the front office of WWE as the Executive Vice President of Talent and Live Events; he appears as Triple H on television as the chief operating officer and part-time wrestler."

:pac:

A Primal Nut

I think HHH's real-life persona as an egotist, who always has to come out on top, buries people, tries to be center of attention, keeping down the younger up-and-comers, along with Vince's persona as someone only likes big, muscley guys is what makes this storyline so great. They are basically playing up to the image that many people have of them.

I've seen so many people (mostly on other forums) complain about what happened at the end of Summerslam; that HHH is stealing the spotlight, making the pedigree look like the strongest move of all time, while also burying Bryan because he doesn't like him, and even that Vince ordered the MITB cash-in because (in real life) he doesn't see Bryan as a future champion. That's exactly what they want people to think and what makes this storyline so real. And who are they up against - the guy everyone loves and sees as the ultimate underdog who has been held back for all the wrong reasons.

At a time when cheering the heels has become the thing to do, WWE has managed to fool many of the so-called "Smarks" into getting emotionally involved in a storyline and desparately wanting to see the face come out on top. Punk in 2011 was probably the last time that happened, although that wasn't a clear Face/Heel story.

They should keep it up by having HHH beat everyone on the roster (apart from Orton and Bryan) in the next few weeks.

smellmepower

SlickRic wrote: »

yup, no need for the Pedigree to look so strong whatsoever.

but there was no way he was letting Bryan kick out of it yet. sure he barely lets Cena kick out of it.

anyone remember WM24? Pedigree on Cena. 1.........2...........punt from Orton on Hunter. 1.............2..............3. and Hunter almost makes the save.

the lad must've been fully aware of his "ego" line in that Monday programme being the most ridiculous thing ever said on television.

Jesus,have you watched pro wrestling before?!

Bryan had just wrestled a 25 minute match with WWE's top guy,logically he'd be knackered.So him losing to the (shock horror!) one pedigree made perfect sense.

The ego line obviously got the desired effect out of you too.

Atari Jaguar!

Keep the HHH compliments out of this thread :P

gimmick

smellmepower wrote: »

Jesus,have you watched pro wrestling before?!

Bryan had just wrestled a 25 minute match with WWE's top guy,logically he'd be knackered.So him losing to the (shock horror!) one pedigree made perfect sense.

The ego line obviously got the desired effect out of you too.

Yes, but 2 seconds before taking the pedigree, he was raring to go. Its not like he was visibly out on his feet.

Had he taken the Pedigree, Orton got the 2 count, then Orton RKO'd him or whatever, there would be no issue atall.

instead, HHHs finisher is portrayed as the all destroying, all conquering devastating manouevre which no man rises from.

SlickRic

smellmepower wrote: »

Bryan had just wrestled a 25 minute match with WWE's top guy,logically he'd be knackered.So him losing to the (shock horror!) one pedigree made perfect sense.

The ego line obviously got the desired effect out of you too.

it did not make sense.

Cena wrestled in a Chamber in 06 for 40 minutes before Edge cashed in. he kicked out of a spear despite bleeding and being visibly destroyed.

there was a full 40 seconds, at least, between the pedigree and the pin. with HHH's move beating Bryan so decisively, you're basically making HHH the centre of the feud. even if Bryan had been dragged up for an RKO, at least Orton's move would have won it.

as i said, he was aware of the "ego" line, and I'm sure my reaction is exactly the effect he desired. it doesn't mean what I'm saying isn't true though.

Loughc

Atari Jaguar!

SlickRic wrote: »

it did not make sense.

Cena wrestled in a Chamber in 06 for 40 minutes before Edge cashed in. he kicked out of a spear despite bleeding and being visibly destroyed.

But that was because Cena is superman....

A Primal Nut

If they wanted it to be realistic, Bryan would have got up immediately after the pedigree and walked away.

Ridley

Loathe Him

gimmick wrote: »

Yes, but 2 seconds before taking the pedigree, he was raring to go. Its not like he was visibly out on his feet.

Had he taken the Pedigree, Orton got the 2 count, then Orton RKO'd him or whatever, there would be no issue atall.

instead, HHHs finisher is portrayed as the all destroying, all conquering devastating manouevre which no man rises from.

I dunno, it works in heel Orton's favour that he didn't do anything to get the win, keeping the crowd firmly on Bryan's side.

Kayfabewise, the shock of Triple H's betrayal meant that Bryan had no time to cushion the blow so he was totally super knocked out.

GTR63

A Primal Nut wrote: »

If they wanted it to be realistic, Bryan would have got up immediately after the pedigree and walked away.

Sid would of done it and it would of been amazing.

Moneymaker

Loathe Him

I don't get the bitching about the Pedigree to Bryan tbh. I didn't think anything of it at the time as I was too busy frothing at the mouth 'BETRAYAL!!!'.

I'd rather they had D-Bryan do this however. :P

Jester252

Loathe Him

It would have been better if Bryan started to get up and Randy punted him. HHH is at his best when people hate him.

Mr.Nice Guy

Atari Jaguar!

I love a bit of Super Hunter bashing as many know, but I don't understand the criticism about the finish to the Summerslam match.

Bryan had wrestled a long match and I can totally accept a pedigree being enough to keep him down for a 3 count.

Cena and Taker and maybe a few others I can't recall now have kicked out of finishers by MITB cash-ins, but this instance involved a heel turn. A kick out imo would have completely ruined the forcefulness of the turn. The moment was perfectly executed.

If you want to nitpick about guys being kept down by finishers, consider when HBK turned on Hogan and left him laying with the Super Kick: he stood over Hogan for about three minutes as Raw went off the air. Of course in many matches guys have actually kicked out of the Super Kick after a few seconds.

This is good storytelling imo rather than exposing the business.

Lord TSC

Loathe Him

I'd agree 100% with MNG.

I'd also add I find it funny how people are worried about Bryan looking strong when he had just pinned John Cena completely clean, something very, very few are allowed to do, and usually people on a different level to Bryan.

jaykhunter

Atari Jaguar!

I imagine it's because the instead of this being Bryan's spotlight, Triple H took it because the storyline is now put focus on "what will Triple H do?". Cena did Bryan a major solid in their match, but H booked himself staying in the ring throughout his win celebration and ended the show with all eyes on himself, masterminding Orton's win. So yeah, not happy with seeing H being a central part of RAW again.

Let's hope he doesn't turn on Orton and take his title, just cause.

gnfnrhead

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I love a bit of Super Hunter bashing as many know, but I don't understand the criticism about the finish to the Summerslam match.

Bryan had wrestled a long match and I can totally accept a pedigree being enough to keep him down for a 3 count.

Cena and Taker and maybe a few others I can't recall now have kicked out of finishers by MITB cash-ins, but this instance involved a heel turn. A kick out imo would have completely ruined the forcefulness of the turn. The moment was perfectly executed.

If you want to nitpick about guys being kept down by finishers, consider when HBK turned on Hogan and left him laying with the Super Kick: he stood over Hogan for about three minutes as Raw went off the air. Of course in many matches guys have actually kicked out of the Super Kick after a few seconds.

This is good storytelling imo rather than exposing the business.

It wouldn't have ruined it at all. Bryan kicking out would have made him look great and could have allowed Triple H to get pissed off and demand Orton finish the job. An RKO or Punt or anything really would have been enough. Instead, the Pedigree killed Bryan dead despite the fact that he was raring to go and challenging Orton to cash in.

Pedigree followed by a quick pin would have been fine too. Pedigree followed by 40 seconds of playing dead before the pin, is not fine. There are no two ways about it, Bryan looked like a bitch when the show ended and pretty much made people forget that he had just pinned Cena clean. All the focus was on Triple H.

Tramps Like Us

If anyones spotlight has been stolen it is Randy Ortons. I want to see how DB will get even with HHH, couldn't really care that much about Orton unless DB decides to get at HHH and co by winning the title again

rovert

Tramps Like Us

He comes across as a decent guy in the new dvd it has to be said

rude awakening

Atari Jaguar!

LOL I always laugh when I see this

rovert

Tramps Like Us wrote: »

He comes across as a decent guy in the new dvd it has to be said

Loughc

Atari Jaguar!

Oh I laughed way too hard and too much at that!!

rovert

Edge's ice cold burn on WWE.com based Triple H's comments on Raw about him, Jericho and Daniel Bryan on Raw:

“When you look back on WWE’s history, how many guys really were “the guy”? There was Bruno Sammartino, then Hulk Hogan, Steve Austin, The Rock and now John Cena. Then again, does Triple H like guys with long hair that are better looking and more athletic than him? Probably not. And I think the three of us fall into that category

gimmick

FYI, this thread will be locked on Tuesday for a few days until the dust has settled on Mania.

Lithium93_

Atari Jaguar!

Locking up the ''I HATE TRIPLE H'' thread ahead of the inevitable **** storm if he beats Daniel Bryan @ WRESTLEMANIA XXX

Moneymaker

Loathe Him

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Locking up the ''I HATE TRIPLE H'' thread ahead of the inevitable **** storm if he beats Daniel Bryan @ WRESTLEMANIA XXX

He won't.

Loughc

Atari Jaguar!

Moneymaker wrote: »

He won't.

He might. Don't rule it out. The Bryan HHH match could be the hook and bait for WM PPV and network orders but that doesn't mean there isn't a bait and switch coming.

gnfnrhead

This Bryan winning the title thing reminds me a LOT of the Rumble build up. I'm hoping for the best (title win) but expecting the worse (lose to Triple H and that's that).

The fact that Bryan is getting married shortly after is making me lean towards Batista leaving with the belt. Bryan will likely want time off for a honey moon. The WWE Champion cant exactly just take a few weeks off.

jaykhunter

Atari Jaguar!

As much as I want Bryan to win the belt, the idea of the internet exploding in hate if H beat him clean in the opener and ruined Christmas would be amazing.

Diabhal Beag

This place would go mental

Loughc

Atari Jaguar!

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

This place would go mental

Boards meltdown

J. Marston

Don't know about the rest of you but I'll be straight on the phone to Joe Duffy if such an injustice like Trips winning does take place.

Lord TSC

Loathe Him

Its the biggest draw for me on Mania right now.

Ape Lincoln

For me, Trips has had X-Pac heat since last year's Summerslam. I can't stand him nor anything he's been involved with. The Daniel Bryan beatdown was the first decent angle he's worked in a long time imo.

Bryan Alvarez noted recently how Trips is much more reactive to fans/the internet than Vince is. I agree it would be gas to see message boards light up like Christmas if Bryan gets beat and Evolution leave with the belt. They've already got me over a barrel for $10 per month so I suppose it diesn't matter if I watch the current stuff or not. "Don't like it, don't watch" ceases to he effective advice in response to criticism.

gimmick

Just because it is tradition at this stage, this thread is locked until a few days after WM

Bounty Hunter

So (well past the spoiler limit) HHH beating Sting then...


Really didn't see that one coming personally. Okay I know it's Trips and it's WWE burying "WCW" but I really thought Sting wouldn't have signed on if he knew that would happen. I hope they re-hab him and actually have him wrestle a bit before the next mania assuming he will face Taker there.

Lithium93_

Atari Jaguar!

It's almost as if WWE brought back Sting, only to have Triple H hammer the final final nail in the coffin of WCW - albeit 15 years later, the match was great from a nostalgia standpoint and that's it really.

Lord TSC

Loathe Him

The Review-a-Wai guys made a point along the lines that HHH nearly always loses at Mania, and if they want a "big match" next year with the Hollywood star that is The Rock, putting Rock against the guy who always loses isn't much of a draw. So I guess they sacrificed HHH to push that "HHH always books himself selfishly" angle in hopes it might put the result of a HHH/Rock match in doubt.

riffmongous

Atari Jaguar!

I think it was a bit pathetic really from WWE/HHH, that they felt the need to win instead of having a legitimately good moment

And that handshake at the end just made Sting look like a total dweeb

SlickRic

i don't think it was a HHH call.

it had all the hallmarks of Vince making the point that WWE is better than WCW.

he's a man for grudges don't you know.