In uniform at long last...

Evd-Burner

Ive been in the RDF since september and ive finally been issued my uniform, man am i happy today :P

pmg58

Have you cleared a space on the mantlepiece yet??

Congratulations, I remember how excited I was when I finally got mine. With the way things are going, you might be one of the last recruits in the RDF for a while.

ak51535

congrats man, ive also been in since september, done my medical last week, just waiting for them to come back and then get sworn in, can't wait!
a few of the lads failed their hearing tests, do many fail the other (general) medical?

pmg58

I think the hearing test fails a lot more than the medical, at a guess. Most people who fail would probably do so because of the colour vision test or sometimes the height restriction.

ak51535

oh right, yeah i thought that, erm sorry one more Q em how long do the medicals take to come back?

pmg58

Havent a clue sorry, I don't remember anything having to come back from mine, thought it was pretty much done and dusted on the spot. I can't think what part of it requires checking, any ideas yourself???

ak51535

i was talkin to the cadre, he said that it has to be signed off by an army doctor as the doctor who did ours was a civilian one. I assume about a few weeks lol

Latchy

Congrats , wont be long before you have 2 and 3 stars shoulder patch .

pmg58

OK then, you're given a medical grading, as far as i remember is something like ##-##-### with the hashes being numbers. 2 of these correspond to the year of your birth, not sure about the others but I think one is hearing grade. Unfortunately only an army doctor can give one, as you were told. Its very simple to work out I think. But since this is the army, there's no knowing how long it could take. Probably no more than a couple of weeks at the most.

Latchy wrote: »

Congrats , wont be long before you have 2 and 3 stars shoulder patch .

Now he'll be confused when he sees everyone else going around with them on their chest!!!

ak51535

oh right, ok thanks pmg58, say it'll be a while :pac:

pmg58

Well it shouldn't be too long in theory, but having met one or two army doctors....you may end up learning what "hurry up and wait" means at a very early stage. Any other questions?

ak51535

haha yeah i think i will too lol. Well just one more since i have the chance, my friend wear glasses he wants to join the naval reserve, will they actually stop him if his eyes are bad? (that was the last question :pac:)

pmg58

Plenty of people in the reserves wear glasses. I don't know if the NSR have different standards or anything, but as long as his eyesight isn't too bad he should be fine.

But I'd say his chances of getting into the NSR at this time of year are slim, if its anything like the Army Reserve. Its really too late now to recruit people for the summer, he could try in September, assuming they're recruiting then, which they may not be with all the budget cuts.

ak51535

yeah i thought that, plus i'd say recruitment will be stopped relatively soon with things going the way they're going, well thanks for all the info its much appreciated.

pmg58

No worries, glad to help out. Theres a thread here that you might find useful: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055519848

And make sure you let us know how you get on too.

ak51535

ok, i'll check that out, ah yeah i'lll be sure to post my own "in uniform at long last" thread when i get it :pac:

Latchy

pmg58 wrote: »

Now he'll be confused when he sees everyone else going around with them on their chest!!!

Yeah I know they were them on their chest but dont they also wear shoulder patches ? .

pmg58

ak51535 wrote: »

ok, i'll check that out, ah yeah i'lll be sure to post my own "in uniform at long last" thread when i get it :pac:

maybe we could ask the mods for a subforum, with a pics or gtfo rule??


On the DPM (camouflage) uniform, rank is worn by everyone on the chest. On the older green combats rank was worn on the shoulders by enlisted personnel and on the epaulettes by officers. (Im not that old, ive seen the pictures ) Its still worn like this on the formal/dress uniform, which is actually called the No.1 or No.2 uniform (basically the same uniform with a few differences, No.1 is for ceremonies so has a white belt and gloves for enlisted etc.)

Latchy

No.1 is for ceremonies so has a white belt and gloves for enlisted etc.)

I was refering to the No .1 but we also wore them on green cloth shoulder epaulettes on our combats ( No .2 )

Different era

minidazzler

pmg58 wrote: »

maybe we could ask the mods for a subforum, with a pics or gtfo rule??


On the DPM (camouflage) uniform, rank is worn by everyone on the chest. On the older green combats rank was worn on the shoulders by enlisted personnel and on the epaulettes by officers. (Im not that old, ive seen the pictures ) Its still worn like this on the formal/dress uniform, which is actually called the No.1 or No.2 uniform (basically the same uniform with a few differences, No.1 is for ceremonies so has a white belt and gloves for enlisted etc.)

On the first point, I doubt they would allow it given they know the rules regarding photo's in Uniform.

The second point.

Officers wear their Rank on their Shoulders because the weight of the responsibility of the DF rests on their Shoulders. This is done in No. 1's.]
Enlisted wear their Rank on their Arms because they do the heavy lifting.


Good stuff on getting your Uniforms lads. Long time to be waiting!!! I was only waiting 3 months from the first day I went up to get mine!!!

pmg58

minidazzler wrote: »

On the first point, I doubt they would allow it given they know the rules regarding photo's in Uniform.

I wasn't being serious..guess I should have used this:
I seriously doubt the mods want loads of similar threads on the matter.

3 months!!!!!!!! Nice for some, you dont even want to know how long i was waiting.

by the way, to clear up any confusion, by shoulders i meant high up on the arms.

Evd-Burner

where can you buy name strips and the likes? Also webbing and cefo etc etc?

Been told ill be waitin a few years for em so i mite aswell get em piece by piece myself...

pmg58

Evd-Burner wrote: »

where can you buy name strips and the likes? Also webbing and cefo etc etc?

Been told ill be waitin a few years for em so i mite aswell get em piece by piece myself...

Whatever you do dont go wasting hundreds of euro on cefo and the like right now. Youll be issued most of what you need, even name tags eventually if you keep on asking for them.

If and when you need cefo and other kit like that, you will be issued it. There are other items youll have to buy yourself that might make llife easier during tactics etc, but you definitely wont need this as a recruit.

BigDuffman

Evd-Burner wrote: »

where can you buy name strips and the likes? Also webbing and cefo etc etc?

Been told ill be waitin a few years for em so i mite aswell get em piece by piece myself...

The only thing you'll be needing to buy would be the likes of Bungees and Para-Cord and polish. And even then your not going to need them till your out on the ground. Most of my lads got issued Magnums, but if you havn't been given magnums, try sort out a decent pair of boots.

Nowadays you get issued full CEFO/MO when needed. The amount of gear we're getting is fantastic from Bivvie bags to Haix.

Your NCO's should be telling you these things.

Rew

Evd-Burner wrote: »

where can you buy name strips and the likes? Also webbing and cefo etc etc?

Been told ill be waitin a few years for em so i mite aswell get em piece by piece myself...

Don't go down the road of buying all the kit. Recruits do it every year and its a waist of money. If you have a name tag and no onone else does then you will be given more jobs to do, trust me!

Your better off waiting a couple of years and picking the small bits and pieces you will need up over time. You will be told what you will need for recruit camp and CEFO/CEMO and name tags arn't.

target assassin

Rew wrote: »

Don't go down the road of buying all the kit. Recruits do it every year and its a waist of money. If you have a name tag and no onone else does then you will be given more jobs to do, trust me!

Your better off waiting a couple of years and picking the small bits and pieces you will need up over time. You will be told what you will need for recruit camp and CEFO/CEMO and name tags arn't.[/QUOTE

dead right, besides after u have done some training you will figure out whats really useful

whats the worst type of nco?? ...... one that knows your name!!! lol


any who gratz buddy

djtechnics1210

what's the worst type of nco?? ......


One with a cherry berry (MP/PA)

Poccington

Congrats.

Wear it with pride and just remember that many a great soldier wears and has worn the same one, so never disgrace it.

djtechnics1210

And don't put pictures of ya posing in it on bebo etc.

TomRooney

and dont wear it out on halloween night, as ive seen many eejits from the RDF do.
it is illegal and it degrades the uniform.

minidazzler

TomRooney wrote: »

and dont wear it out on halloween night, as ive seen many eejits from the RDF do.
it is illegal and it degrades the uniform.

Finally, something I can agree with you about. However, remember, there are eejits in PDF too. (Look at Pocc for example :P)

Evd-Burner

lol I went in my airsoft gear for halloween, I already know not to wear the uniform out...

I got magnum boots issued to me, man they are seriously comfortable...

Local-womanizer

Evd-Burner wrote: »

lol I went in my airsoft gear for halloween, I already know not to wear the uniform out...

I got magnum boots issued to me, man they are seriously comfortable...

Its like walking on clouds,them Magnums are!

Poccington

I hate Magnums, I never wear them unless all my other boots are dirty.

Local-womanizer

Poccington wrote: »

I hate Magnums, I never wear them unless all my other boots are dirty.

Why?

minidazzler

Poccington wrote: »

I hate Magnums, I never wear them unless all my other boots are dirty.

Local-womanizer wrote: »

Why?

I agree with Pocc, I don't really like magnums, they are useless and definitely not fit for anything except around the Barracks, hense why they are called "Barrack Boots".

I love my Haix Safe Toe, comfortable, warm, waterproof, and Kick ass. I actually have 2 pairs!!! 1 issued, the other is Buckshee.

Local-womanizer

minidazzler wrote: »

I agree with Pocc, I don't really like magnums, they are useless and definitely not fit for anything except around the Barracks, hense why they are called "Barrack Boots".

I love my Haix Safe Toe, comfortable, warm, waterproof, and Kick ass. I actually have 2 pairs!!! 1 issued, the other is Buckshee.

Probaly a case of me not knowing any better!:P

I only have 1 pair of boots and their Magnums so I cant really comment on any other types.

Skyhawk1990

you'll wear parades before you wear mags then Pocc?

I don't mind mags for barrack use but tactics forget about it! Invest (or get issued [unlikely from tomorrow]) in a good pair of boots for tactics.

To keep them like clouds you have to keep moving in them though from what I find prolonged standing to attention or at ease and you'll agree with me (hopefully). pain in the foot:p

i agree with the name tags don't wear them unless everyone has them. you get away with no jobs for longer and DON'T make eye contact when they're looking for volunteers either. i 've done that:(.

About buying gear i went a little nuts at first and it's still ongoing but if you do ask your corporals on what you need and what would be nice to have. and with buying webbing it's handy cause you can get it to fit you properly and you don't have to mess with the ones you get from stores when you need it. but that's personal preference tbh

Evd-Burner

where would ye get the webbing the that were supposed to use?

Poccington

Skyhawk1990 wrote: »

you'll wear parades before you wear mags then Pocc?

I had Parade Boots for the whole duration of Recruit Training and wore them for my first Glen Phase, Battle PT's etc.... They're a lot better than Magnums.

Skyhawk1990

Poccington wrote: »

I had Parade Boots for the whole duration of Recruit Training and wore them for my first Glen Phase, Battle PT's etc.... They're a lot better than Magnums.

I'm still a mag man myself btut i only got parades recently and i think they're a pain to tie and have one or two other things against them. but i'll get back to you after their first day's out. my mind is open to change!:)

Poccington

Skyhawk1990 wrote: »

I'm still a mag man myself btut i only got parades recently and i think they're a pain to tie and have one or two other things against them. but i'll get back to you after their first day's out. my mind is open to change!:)

My advice to you would be... Avoid both

Whenever the funds are available, get yourself a proper pair of boots.

TomRooney

Poccington wrote: »

I had Parade Boots for the whole duration of Recruit Training and wore them for my first Glen Phase, Battle PT's etc.... They're a lot better than Magnums.

i agree totaly, once you break in the parade boots there like a nice pair of slippers, hiax and magnum me bo***x.

saying that i did buy a pair of Mendels, 270 euro, not cheap but i have them 4 years and there still like brand new,
also i believe parade boots even un-bulled look a hell of a lot smarter than magnums.

TomRooney

minidazzler wrote: »

Finally, something I can agree with you about. However, remember, there are eejits in PDF too. (Look at Pocc for example :P)

there are many eejits in the PDF but i have never seen or heard of any PDF wearing there uniform out on social outings or halloween (maybe because they hate the sight of the thing), i have however seen many RDF do it, i understand the novelty of it all may get them a bit excited but there is never a reason outside work/duty that it should be worn.

minidazzler

TomRooney wrote: »

there are many eejits in the PDF but i have never seen or heard of any PDF wearing there uniform out on social outings or halloween (maybe because they hate the sight of the thing), i have however seen many RDF do it, i understand the novelty of it all may get them a bit excited but there is never a reason outside work/duty that it should be worn.

I have seen a few lads, young always who are just in the PDF, that haven't gotten over the novelty of being in the Army. Personally, It's not for me. Don't even wearing it going to and from training, unless I am getting a spin off someone going directly in.

I do know a few lads who wear it simply around town, even though they haven't been up to RDF in a while, and they get a nice earful everytime I see them, shaming them into changing.

I actually saw one PDF Lad last halloween wearing some CBRN kit as well. (or do the PDF still call it NBC? I feckin hate alphabet soup.)

TomRooney

minidazzler wrote: »

I actually saw one PDF Lad last halloween wearing some CBRN kit as well. (or do the PDF still call it NBC? I feckin hate alphabet soup.)

officialy i believe it is CBRN, but i believe it will always be known as Nuclear Biological Chemical, on the ground.

Skyhawk1990

Poccington wrote: »

My advice to you would be... Avoid both

Whenever the funds are available, get yourself a proper pair of boots.

I did:P I have Meindls for tactics. Mags for barracks and parades for when I need them. I also have a pair of the old tac boots not matterhorns the ones before them I think.

Personally i believe that parades should be kept with the no.1's cause imo dpm's and parades look strange. Yes vainity before you say it:p and i just opened myself for a torrent of abuse!:pac:

Rooney if you want to get rid of your haix i'll gladly take them off you!

i hate seeing people wear the uniform for haloween it cheapens it.

BigDuffman

TomRooney wrote: »

there are many eejits in the PDF but i have never seen or heard of any PDF wearing there uniform out on social outings or halloween (maybe because they hate the sight of the thing), i have however seen many RDF do it, i understand the novelty of it all may get them a bit excited but there is never a reason outside work/duty that it should be worn.

How exactly do you distinguish them (unless they are wearing their berets...which I have never seen).

Theres muppets who do it on both sides of the DF divide so lets not generalize here.

When I was working in town every Halloween I had muppets coming up to the door in DPM. And in my experience it was a relatively even spread. Emphasised when a gaggle of lads in DPM some of whom with various items of CBRN gear came up to the door. The majority of whom where proudly sporting tattoos detailing their allegiance to a certain City PDF unit. I promptly ensued to refuse them:D and put out a call for all the clubs on the net to refuse them!

I also know of an RDF walt muppet who changed into his DPMs every week and goes straight to the pub got langered. Talking about all his training ironic considering he hadn't paraded in over a year...tosser

My biggest gripe is with those skater/emo/hippy b*stards who wear the smock.

Bumped into one particularly horrendous fool in the local siopa with eyeliner, ultra camp emo style haircut with 12ft fringe. Numerous piercings and badges all over the smock.

He'd also drawn RIP into the overseas tri-colour.

Needless to say my blood boiled and a heated exchange (well primarily one-sided profanity hurling:p) ensued.

Would of got on to the Garda if I thought anything would of been done about it. I got his second name that his mate let slip and will be on to his brother to let him know all about it.

TomRooney

BigDuffman wrote: »

How exactly do you distinguish them (unless they are wearing their berets...which I have never seen).

Theres muppets who do it on both sides of the DF divide so lets not generalize here.

When I was working in town every Halloween I had muppets coming up to the door in DPM. And in my experience it was a relatively even spread. Emphasised when a gaggle of lads in DPM some of whom with various items of CBRN gear came up to the door. The majority of whom where proudly sporting tattoos detailing their allegiance to a certain City PDF unit. I promptly ensued to refuse them:D and put out a call for all the clubs on the net to refuse them!

I also know of an RDF walt muppet who changed into his DPMs every week and goes straight to the pub got langered. Talking about all his training ironic considering he hadn't paraded in over a year...tosser

My biggest gripe is with those skater/emo/hippy b*stards who wear the smock.

Bumped into one particularly horrendous fool in the local siopa with eyeliner, ultra camp emo style haircut with 12ft fringe. Numerous piercings and badges all over the smock.

He'd also drawn RIP into the overseas tri-colour.

Needless to say my blood boiled and a heated exchange (well primarily one-sided profanity hurling:p) ensued.

Would of got on to the Garda if I thought anything would of been done about it. I got his second name that his mate let slip and will be on to his brother to let him know all about it.

WHEN I WAS DOING THE DOOR AROUND TOWN, i distiguished them by asking them were they got the uniform from and why were they wearing it out and about degrading it and 9 times out of 10 they would say, "im in the army" then i would say...realy....what unit, to which they would usualy answer with some RDF unit to which i would reply you are not "IN" the Army you clown and it is illegal to wear that uniform around like that spilling beer on it and getting sick all over it, then they would say "ah relax man, its only a bit of craic, to which i would say...Realy well gis a look at your I.D, then i would read there name and say, mm ill remember that I`ll be reporting you to your unit on monday morning for wearing the uniform while out drinking, and you wont be coming in tonight, then they would panic not knowing if i was serious or not.

i never bothered my arse reporting them but i hope they got the point.

although there are some decent Lads in the RDF, they would have nowhere near the level of self discipline most Pro soldiers would have, hence they slip up more often.

minidazzler

TomRooney wrote: »

i never bothered my arse reporting them but i hope they got the point.

There are people who do however!! And I know that for a fact. (Not me, but I know someone who got caught on it!!!:D)



Oh, and while I hate your political Beliefs more than you can know, I am agreeing with alot of this.

TomRooney

minidazzler wrote: »

There are people who do however!! And I know that for a fact. (Not me, but I know someone who got caught on it!!!:D)



Oh, and while I hate your political Beliefs more than you can know, I am agreeing with alot of this.

i think it is a bit silly to HATE someones political beliefs, I must say i disagree with your political beliefs but hate is a bit strong of a word.