Man Utd v Aston Villa

redout

jaykay74 wrote: »

Victim of Ugly stick.

Bounty Hunter

Des wrote: »

Moderator, can you move the "Ronaldo attitude debate" to another thread?

like the ronaldo/stephen ireland/controversal footballers superthread this board needs

Mikeyt086

jaykay74 wrote: »

Quality pic. I remember seeing that and thinking "Ooooh Johnny got let off the hook."

He was dreadful today, but, he has had an exellent season and i think the lack of Rio and Vidic made him nervous. Well i hope it did.

jaykay74

Des wrote: »

er...that's Evans

While the other players celebrated together. Evans had a sneaky celebration with the cameraman.....

Loco

Holy crap. Lost my voice in that final celebration!

ShooterSF

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

Macheda to come on and score imo.

I hope you got down to the bookies before the game. Derlighted!

Headshot

fanzone

I love the last bit

Harpy

Headshot wrote: »

fanzone

I love the last bit

haha that's brilliant love the united fans dance after the second..woohoo woohoo brilliant

Mitch Connor

"YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHH...so Craig, what'd you think?"

Headshot

Mitch Connor wrote: »

"YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHH...so Craig, what'd you think?"

I taught it was

so Mr Alan what'd you think? :pac:

ShooterSF

End of that clip was fantastic

Liam O

Re: Ronaldo. I completely detest him as a person and he embodies everything that is wrong with the world imo. I shout at my TV everytime he falls over and I hold him to higher standards than the rest of the team. However, I couldn't give a **** if he takes a half hour nap in every game if he still scores 2 goals. In essence, I have completely become ignorant to Ronaldo the person when he produces gamewinning (or close to it) performances

Mitch Connor

wow - my over the top reactions are massively over the top....but you hate Ronaldo as a person and he represents everything wrong with THE WORLD!! wow.

Liam O

Mitch Connor wrote: »

wow - my over the top reactions are massively over the top....but you hate Ronaldo as a person and he represents everything wrong with THE WORLD!! wow.

yeah maybe I did go slightly OTT with my condemnation of Ronaldo as a person

A7X

Oh what a game.

Just to get it out of the way, yes we didnt play well, were not on form and we were missing a few star players.

I felt every emotion durin that match, and yes im not ashamed to admit it, arousal when Kiko's goal went in.

My cat actually got up and left the room after i frightend the ****e out of it for the second time in the match. She was lucky she was gone for Kiko's. ha

What a match for him. He'll remember that for the rest of his life. I was so happy for him, unbelievable goal, and yes, yes it DOES by far beat Yossi's goal. Oh if only I was watchin MOTD with my pool friends today instead of yesterday.

As someone else said, I hope that defence never comes around again EVER. What was SAF thinking putting a severly rusty and small Neville up against Carew? Who knows.

As for Ronaldo, I'm kinda starting to get sick of the whole argument with him. I think today shows why we need him. He's not the only player on the team or in the PL that has bad traits. We need him. Without him the team would be changed drastically.

Anyway, why the hell would he want to go to Real at the moment? I can't see him wanting to leave this season again.

I mean, supporters of other teams can point out all the bad things they want about Ronnie, but as long as he scores goals and wins us games im happy to have him.

On an ending note, I think this weekend is showing us how exciting this run in can and probably will be.

WE LOVE YOU KIKO, WE DO! OH KIKO WE LOVE YOU!!!

Headshot

just a reminder people

match of day is on in a few minutes
10.25 to be exact ch bbc 2

Guy:Incognito

PHB wrote: »

Indeed. Honestly, anyone who says Villa ****ed it up, tell me what anybody could have done to stop those last two goals. Ronaldo's goal was from the tightest of angles through the defenders legs. Machedas goal was pure unadulterated class. You can't defend against that.

Only seeing the goals now. Jesus phb, if you cant see how the goals could have been prevented then you must be used to watchign a very low level of football.

The 3rd was a peach but Villa let Utd knock it about too easy and we'rent markign tight enough.

As for Ronaldos 2nd , Villa left him in 15 yard sof space at the edge of the area. There was only one person the ball was going too, especially in that position. Villas defenders were very bad in not picking him up, he was a good 6 or7 seconds on his own with no one minding him.


It's basic enough defending.

Before someone starts listing off al the errors for every goal Liverpool conceded, save your fingers, thats not what its about.



LOL at the villa defenders for the indirect free for the 1st goal. Two of them ran at the ball when it is rolled then duck down below waist high to make sure they didnt get hit. God fobid you might earn your 30 or 40 k a week and take a ball in the chest to prevent a goal.

ShooterSF

Watching the highlights and villa's attacks there were at least two that neville put a foot in in the box that had the attacker gone over there would have been a decent shout for a peno.

Mitch Connor

ShooterSF wrote: »

Watching the highlights and villa's attacks there were at least two that neville put a foot in in the box that had the attacker gone over there would have been a decent shout for a peno.

Yeah - Neville was lucky enough, but that is what I expected. Said it after the reserve game early in the week, he wasn't and isn't ready for a prem return, couldn't believe he was selected at CB at the start of the game today. I would have had Eckersley ahead of him at RB at the moment, based on actual form.

Theresalwaysone

Liam O wrote: »

Re: Ronaldo. I completely detest him as a person and he embodies everything that is wrong with the world imo. I shout at my TV everytime he falls over and I hold him to higher standards than the rest of the team. However, I couldn't give a **** if he takes a half hour nap in every game if he still scores 2 goals. In essence, I have completely become ignorant to Ronaldo the person when he produces gamewinning (or close to it) performances

Actually lolled at this.

Headshot

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

Actually lolled at this.

I know i just read it now

so get rid of Ronaldo will stop the terrorist and the recession

lolled indeed

ShooterSF

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Yeah - Neville was lucky enough, but that is what I expected. Said it after the reserve game early in the week, he wasn't and isn't ready for a prem return, couldn't believe he was selected at CB at the start of the game today. I would have had Eckersley ahead of him at RB at the moment, based on actual form.

I can only assume that Fergie felt he needed Neville's ability to bark orders that would be missing with a defence consisting of Eckerlsy(sp?)- Evans- O'Shea - Evra.
He should never have started at CB though. Unlike most here though I don't think Nev is finished. He started to find some good form on his return before getting injured again.

Mitch Connor

ShooterSF wrote: »

I can only assume that Fergie felt he needed Neville's ability to bark orders that would be missing with a defence consisting of Eckerlsy(sp?)- Evans- O'Shea - Evra.
He should never have started at CB though. Unlike most here though I don't think Nev is finished. He started to find some good form on his return before getting injured again.

Yeah, i would agree it was Nevilles experience as much as anything that got him selected for the game. Though I would personally have Eckersley ahead of him on form right now, i never for a moment thought Neville would not be selected. As for whether he is finished, i would say he is third choice RB in a fully fit squad to be honest, with both Raf and Brown ahead of him. He was starting to show decent form prior to getting injured, but for me that is part of the problem, he has needed too many games to get back to form, which is understandable given his age and the injuries he has suffered, but as a result of it I think other players have proven themselves in his position.

monkey9

Liam O wrote: »

Re: Ronaldo. I completely detest him as a person and he embodies everything that is wrong with the world imo.

I can't stand Ronaldo, so i'm gonna go along with this just for the craic!!!! :pac:

Headshot

monkey9 wont like this

yes kiko again

Kiko: A dream come true

Teenage striking sensation Federico Macheda couldn’t hide his delight after scoring an injury-time winner in United’s thrilling 3-2 victory against Aston Villa.

The 17-year-old Italian told MUTV: “This is the best day of my life and one I have always dreamed of. I really enjoyed it.”

With the game heading for a 2-2 draw and the clock showing 93 minutes, Macheda produced a sublime piece of skill inside the box before curling his shot into the far corner. He wheeled away in delight, heading straight for those who mean most to him.

“I ran towards my family,” he revealed. “They deserve it as much as me and they are very proud.

“It’s a great day but my life is still the same as before. I want to keep going as I have been doing and just enjoy my football.

"I was surprised to be on the bench, to be honest. I was asked yesterday to go to Italy and join up with the national team [at youth level] but Sir Alex said I had to stay here because I might be on the bench. It was then I knew I had a chance."

brings a tear to my eye
yes im a sentimental old fool

LostinBlanch

Well me thinks monkey9 is nuts.





















Hope that doesn't count as personal abuse as it's more about the pun thqn the poster.

Spud83

Xavi6 wrote: »

I think it'll be interesting to see if those defending his attitude in this thread will do the very same next time he wants a bumper pay increase or is discussing a move abroad behind United's back.

Will the "that's just the way he is" line suffice then? I doubt it.

I would just like to point out a couple of things because I believe I was large part of the Ronaldo discussion on this thread.

A) I believe I was his biggest supporter / defender on here last summer I would like to think other posters could back this claim up.

I have continued to support him all season as seen in the recent transfer thread before this match started off.

I do not base my views purely on stats and I don't change them game to game. I am not a 'reactionary' fan I like to think I see the bigger picture. My views on ronaldo are not based on this season, last summer , or last season, they are based on the 5 years he has been at united and how the team have developed in those years.

Unearthly

Ronaldo is now joint top scorer in the premiership with Anelka with 15 goals.

Not bad for someone who missed the start of the season and has been labelled as rubbish this season.

Smegball

Crazy the amount of times Ronaldo has gotten a brace for us now really!

ntlbell

no one grabbed a still of macheda's kiss to stevie g ?

Headshot

ntlbell wrote: »

no one grabbed a still of macheda's kiss to stevie g ?

will this do ntlbell

ntlbell

Stekelly wrote: »

Someone needs to teah him how to close out a game.

hodgson could give him a few tips?

Headshot

A7X

Headshot wrote: »

Been hoping for this. Was that the same camera man?

A7X

Headshot wrote: »

will this do ntlbell

Ha the camera man's wearing an italian cap :cool:

monkey9

A7X wrote: »

Ha the camera man's wearing an italian cap :cool:

Yeah, good one against Villa. Until he does it in a drubbing at Anfield, then no deal. He's an imposter!!! Just ripping off the genius!

A7X

monkey9 wrote: »

Yeah, good one against Villa. Until he does it in a drubbing at Anfield, then no deal. He's an imposter!!! Just ripping off the genius!

To be fair it looked like the camera man gestured it to him. It really did look like a big "are you watching merseyside" gesture though. The camera man must be a red.

eZe^

Talking about Ronaldo missing the start of the season is a non point imo, he has made 42 appearances this season, infact, I'd be willing to be he makes more appearances for Utd this season that he did last year.

hussey

links for goals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsXJQClBtdQ

Mitch Connor

eZe^ wrote: »

Talking about Ronaldo missing the start of the season is a non point imo, he has made 42 appearances this season, infact, I'd be willing to be he makes more appearances for Utd this season that he did last year.

So? no one expected him to score as many as last year, and in a season where people are saying he is playing crap, he is joint top goalscorer.

PHB

Just thinking about it more, I'm just so impressed we got a result. Sure we played ****e, but we had a ****load of injuries, but we still had the individual brilliance to get us through.

Yesterday our top 3 CB's, top 2 forwards, top DM, 2nd and 3rd best creative midfielders, and top RB were out, and we still managed to win. To put that in perspective, that'd be like Liverpool playing without the following people

Agger
Skrtel
Carragher
Arebelea
Mascherano
Lucas
Plessis
Gerrard
Torres

It really is a testament to the quality within the squad that we can come through that, even with such a ****e performance.

NabyLadistheman

What a goal form that kid Kiko yesterday. I've seen United do that hundreds of times but yesterday when they were 2-1 down I thought for the first time ever they looked like they had no answer.

Credit where credit's due they stepped up - such a bitch though!

Mad_Max

A7X wrote: »

To be fair it looked like the camera man gestured it to him. It really did look like a big "are you watching merseyside" gesture though. The camera man must be a red.

Im fairly sure I heard the cameraman asking him to do it hence the thumbs up.

mormank

PHB wrote: »

Just thinking about it more, I'm just so impressed we got a result. Sure we played ****e, but we had a ****load of injuries, but we still had the individual brilliance to get us through.

Yesterday our top 3 CB's, top 2 forwards, top DM, 2nd and 3rd best creative midfielders, and top RB were out, and we still managed to win. To put that in perspective, that'd be like Liverpool playing without the following people

Agger
Skrtel
Carragher
Arebelea
Mascherano
Lucas
Plessis
Gerrard
Torres

It really is a testament to the quality within the squad that we can come through that, even with such a ****e performance.

im gonna need names here to back all this up cos to me it sounds like u have doubled up on ye're 3rd best CB and Rb as the same person and also that u just called hargreaves ye're best DM and also who are meant to be ye're 2nd and 3rd best creative midfielders..

sounds like u have just made this up to make the win sound even better than it was

PHB

mormank wrote: »

im gonna need names here to back all this up cos to me it sounds like u have doubled up on ye're 3rd best CB and Rb as the same person and also that u just called hargreaves ye're best DM and also who are meant to be ye're 2nd and 3rd best creative midfielders..

sounds like u have just made this up to make the win sound even better than it was

Well just to prove a point

Well, Rafael is our best RB. Fergie has shown that with his selections in the first half of the season. Brown is our 3rd best CB / 2nd best RB.
Hargreaves is obviously our best DM. I don't know how anyone would disagree with that?
Carrick is obviously our best creative player, while Scholes and Anderson would be 2nd and 3rd.

Skrtel - Ferdinand
Carragher - Vidic
Agger - Brown
Arebelea - Rafael
Mascherano - Hargreaves
Lucas - Scholes
Plessis - Anderson
Gerrard - Rooney
Torres - Berbatov

mormank

well u say it is like us playin without all these players however i would disagree by saying that it is all relative..if we had 7 world class CB's and ye had only 3 would it be as damaging to us as it would be to ye to lose the first 3?? no. now however while i realise this was pretty much exactly ur point saying that it is a testament to the size of ye're squad etc i just do not think it is the same...u cannot compare ye losing berba and rooney to us losing stevie and nando either. us losing nando and stevie is more like ye losing rooney and ronaldo(and tevez and berba and ne1 else decent ye have up ther). so for one i would liken ye losing rooney and berba to us loaing perhaps gerrard and riera or maybe kuyt..

i just dont think ye losing those players is the same as us playing without those listed from our team..

PHB

You're comparing best players vs. best players [see Gerrard/Torres and Ronaldo/Rooney comparison]. That's fair enough, I could say we're missing our 2nd [Ferdinand], 3rd[Rooney], 4th[Vidic], 5th imo [Hargreaves], 8thish [Berbatov] and so on, but the point still remains the same. Either methods of comparing have their pluses and minuses, but ultimately the point that the fact we came through that game against the 5th place team in the league with that sorta injuries means not only am I extremely happy, but I really don't care we didn't perform well for 80 minutes.

Mitch Connor

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00jn4l1

About 1.15....you can hear Rio, no vid but this is about as good as we are going to get...

Headshot

Mitch Connor wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00jn4l1

About 1.15....you can hear Rio, no vid but this is about as good as we are going to get...

very good

Mr Alan

oh god Headshot the sig wtf