Bonus Points for goals?

Frisbee

http://www.thespoiler.co.uk/index.php/2009/04/03/arsene-wenger-says-teams-should-get-extra-points-for-scoring-goals-is-he-right

No one is disputing the fact that the Premier League is exciting, but there have been fewer goals this term (just 2.45 goals per game so far this season, compared to 2.64 in 2007/08).

Arsene Wenger - whose side have had more goalless draws than Cristiano Ronaldo had has hot prostitutes - believes a rule change should be introduced in order to reward teams who ripple the net more often. Speaking to the official Arsenal magazine, he said:

“I would like to see a scheme brought in where you get more points for scoring more goals.

“In France they experimented with something before. When you scored three goals, you got an extra point. It was not a good system because you didn’t care how many goals you conceded.

“A fairer system would be three points for a victory as now, then extra points for your positive goal difference.

“For example, if you win 6-3, you get three points for the win, plus three more for the goal difference, while the team that loses gets none.”

The proposals could be highly beneficial: fans would almost certainly see a lot more goals, and managers would be discouraged from using cynical defensive tactics on away trips.

However, awarding points for greater winning margins could also help to create a gulf between the bigger teams and the rest of the league. The only sides who tend to win by big margins are the Big Four, who would accelerate away from the rest of the pack if bonus points were dished out.

Do you think points should be awarded for bigger winning margins? Don’t keep it to yourself, share the love below…

In principle I like the idea but I can see it getting seriously messy if it were to be introduced (which it won't be)
But hypothetically would you welcome a move like this?

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Frisbee wrote: »

would you welcome a move like this?

No

Kingp35

Terrible idea.

Guy:Incognito

No, no, no. No way, no how, no where.


Didnt even read the article but no.

Mr Alan

awful idea.

CHD

Leave football alone FFS!

Soby

(just 2.45 goals per game so far this season, compared to 2.64 in 2007/08).

So what?
Its been one of the most exciting in a good few years both at the top and bottom of the table

Quint

I read this on another site:

Since you ask, if this particular scheme was employed this season then Liverpool would be top by a point, while Arsenal - currently ten points off top spot - would be 21 back

stovelid

Another Wenger classic. It's on the list with his nasty defenders can't tackle my ickle players rule proposal.

Dave!

Maybe people could provide reasons for why they don't like the idea...?

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CHD wrote: »

Leave football alone FFS!

Bring back pass backs, goals with no cross bars and no substitutions!!

PHB

If you want to really encourage attacking football, make it 4 points for a win, 1 for a draw and 0 for a loss. But to be honest, I think the balance is pretty good as it is.

redout

It would be unfair as fuk as only the big sides are regularly capable of doing it. They would be even further ahead ffs !

One bonus point for every five clean sheets would be a good idea.

Smegball

redout wrote: »

One bonus point for every five clean sheets would be a good idea.

That would just promote more defensive football, and nobody wants that.

redout

Smegball wrote: »

That would just promote more defensive football,

Thus improving the weaker teams of the divisions defence and making them harder to beat and resulting in a more open league.

monkey9

NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!

Stupid idea. No times a billion trillion. No No. I'm not having this. No

Ridiculous!!

Frisbee

stovelid wrote: »

Another Wenger classic. It's on the list with his nasty defenders can't tackle my ickle players rule proposal.

I don't get what this has to do with goals?
Also what rule proposal is there that you can't tackle Arsenal players put forward by Wenger?

Dave! wrote: »

Maybe people could provide reasons for why they don't like the idea...?

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It will never happen, if it did though at least it might get rid of the ten men behind the ball tactic that leads to ridiculously boring games of football.

monkey9

Quint wrote: »

I read this on another site:

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Since you ask, if this particular scheme was employed this season then Liverpool would be top by a point, while Arsenal - currently ten points off top spot - would be 21 back

Fantastic idea, this. Implement it straight away. Football needs more progressive thinking like this.

leninbenjamin

PHB wrote: »

If you want to really encourage attacking football, make it 4 points for a win, 1 for a draw and 0 for a loss. But to be honest, I think the balance is pretty good as it is.

maybe a point for scoring more than three in a match might work, but like the Rugby, but I agree, it's balanced as it is.

Guy:Incognito

Dave! wrote: »

Maybe people could provide reasons for why they don't like the idea...?

I can provide you with the only arguement as to why it should eb brought in. Other than this there is only negative ones.

Quint wrote: »

if this particular scheme was employed this season then Liverpool would be top by a point

stovelid

Frisbee wrote: »

Also what rule proposal is there that you can't tackle Arsenal players put

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sarcasm

jesus_thats_gre

I think that changing the allocation of points could be worthwhile but this suggestion doesn't appeal to me at all..

I often thought that the following allocations might work:

1 point - scoreless draw
2 point - score draw
4 points - win
5 points - win with a goal margin of 3 or more.

prendy

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

I think that changing the allocation of points could be worthwhile but this suggestion doesn't appeal to me at all..

I often thought that the following allocations might work:

1 point - scoreless draw
2 point - score draw
4 points - win
5 points - win with a goal margin of 3 or more.

imagine the last day of the season permutations that this would bring!

i think the 3 for a win and 1 for a draw works fine, although the above without the 5 points would see less scoreless draws.

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jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

I think that changing the allocation of points could be worthwhile but this suggestion doesn't appeal to me at all..

I often thought that the following allocations might work:

1 point - scoreless draw
2 point - score draw
4 points - win
5 points - win with a goal margin of 3 or more.

Picture the scene on the last day of a season where two teams playing would be safe form relegation if they got two points, but another team would go down instead of them.

They'd go out and score a goal each in the first minute, then play around in each other's half for 85 minutes.

A non starter imo.

~Rebel~

This idea would really screw the smaller and promoted teams. They'd be encouraged to effectively go out, try to play, and get spanked.

Teams parking the bus is obviously frustrating for every team, but watching constant last gasp efforts to block shots etc can be great too.

This season has been one of the most exciting i can remember in a long time, so i'm against anything that changes it.

jesus_thats_gre

Des wrote: »

Picture the scene on the last day of a season where two teams playing would be safe form relegation if they got two points, but another team would go down instead of them.

They'd go out and score a goal each in the first minute, then play around in each other's half for 85 minutes.

A non starter imo.

What you have described is basically match fixing though.

Anyway, I haven't really thought about it for more than 30 seconds but I always wondered whether it might be a decent idea.

jesus_thats_gre

~Rebel~ wrote: »

This idea would really screw the smaller and promoted teams. They'd be encouraged to effectively go out, try to play, and get spanked.
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That is what they effectively do in La Liga anyway..

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jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

What you have described is basically match fixing though.

Do you remember Italia 90?

Do you remember Ireland and Holland "match fixing" in that tournament?

Once it got to 1-1, they pretty much kicked the ball from keeper to keeper for twenty minutes, much as I described above.



It isn't match fixing unless it can be proved.

jesus_thats_gre

Stopping playing after they both got goals is one thing but both agreeing to concede a goal each and stop playing is that bit worse. Also, different times