The GAA at it again

DSB

Orizio wrote: »

My brother and nephews play both GAA and soccer, where do they fall under your little soccer/'Gah' dichotomy there Des? Are they confused and in need of urgent rehabilitation? Are they half-breeds? Some kinds of race traitors?

Seemingly, they enjoy playing both sports without prejudice, crazy bastards.;)

I'm sure you're well aware that the problem is not with people who play GAA, that opinion is reserved for the GAA as an organisation towards soccer, the problem is with the GAA as an organisation, who disgust me and many other Irish soccer fans.

Orizio

DSB wrote: »

I'm sure you're well aware that the problem is not with people who play GAA, that opinion is reserved for the GAA as an organisation towards soccer, the problem is with the GAA as an organisation, who disgust me and many other Irish soccer fans.

Although I'm sure there are plenty of dinosaurs in the GAA - the Cork County Board for example - the posts from the likes of Des seem not to make the above distinction between the buerocrats and the players/grassroots. Knowing Des' thoughts on the matter as I do, I seriously doubt his feelings about the players are as reasonable as you express above.

I'm sure you can see how GAA people reading this thread will see some of the posts as hypocritical/contradictory (attacking bigotry with bigotry for example) generalisations against EVERYONE within the GAA, players, suits, buerocrats, grassroots etc, rather then just attacks against the organisation itself, which would garner a lot more sympathy from GAA members. I'm not sure the distinction has been well made on this thread by soccer posters.

micks

Orizio wrote: »

Although I'm sure there are plenty of dinosaurs in the GAA - the Cork County Board for example - the posts from the likes of Des seem not to make the above distinction between the buerocrats and the players/grassroots. Knowing Des' thoughts on the matter as I do, I seriously doubt his feelings about the players are as reasonable as you express above.

I'm sure you can see how GAA people reading this thread will see some of the posts as hypocritical/contradictory (attacking bigotry with bigotry for example) generalisations against EVERYONE within the GAA, players, suits, buerocrats, grassroots etc, rather then just attacks against the organisation itself, which would garner a lot more sympathy from GAA members. I'm not sure the distinction has been well made on this thread by soccer posters.

I do presume that the action for the club went something along these lines?
Club seeks to follow on from planning -> consults county board -> who consult Croke park -> who advise county board -> who advise club -> who take action

There's a lot of levels of the GAA involved is there not? Is there anyone left out of the loop other than players/team? So why is it unfair to generalise in this case? No one person made this decision or actioned it.

The reaction on the other hand could very well have been one person acting on their own, a person from any one of a number of groups aggrieved by the original action

More bad PR for the GAA ..................it just keep coming

stevenmu

Des wrote: »

Everyone in the GAA IS the same

Not everyone involved in the GAA is the same.

There are people within the GAA who have a particular mindset, that the GAA is under attack from "foreign" sports, and that they have to protect the GAA, and ensure that things stay the way they should be and always have been. Because these people are very passionate about their point of view, they tend to be the ones who get most involved in the political side and they take up a disproportionate percentage of club and county boards. And unfortunately, the people who lose out are those who just want to go out and kick a ball around (whether they also use their hands or not).

Mushy

Des wrote: »

Everyone in the GAA IS the same

"ah shure, tis nawthin te dew wit me shure, that was dowin in Kerry so it was, nawtin te dew wit me at all, at all, well holy god"

You are the epitome of this mindset.

Are you going to bring this incident up with your club to take to county and ultimately national lever?

Thought not, shure, it doesn't affect you.

Yes, cos every GAA person/fan speaks in that way:rolleyes:

No, I won't bring it up at my club. Why not? Cos its a matter to be resolved by the GAA club and soccer club, between them and nobody else. GAA HQ authorised the re-development of the ground to improve facilities, and now all they are getting is *****. Fair enough criticise them if they authorised f the ploughing of the pitch in the middle of the night, but its up to the local club to inform the soccer club, not HQ.

With the generalisations from some soccer supporters here, tis no wonder these situations are not brought up at GAA meetings by club around the country. It would help soccer fans who would remain ungrateful. Lose-lose situation. You son't see GAA fans criticising the FAI at every possible chance.

everdead.ie

johnmahon010186 wrote: »

"We have been given a directive by Croke Park to use the property according to the rules and that's what we are doing".

Thats a very vague statement if the community action group had launched an appeal it was reckless to damage the pitch as it would only look badly on the gaa. These rules could be the rules of the law the rule to put the gaa first or the rule to prevent the soccer lovers from finding out about the fairy hill fort under hill 16*


*sarcasm

chopperbyrne

Mushy wrote: »

You don't see GAA fans criticising the FAI at every possible chance.

Probably because the FAI haven't actively encouraged the ruination of a GAA club and paid the legal costs of going to the High Court.

Mushy

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Probably because the FAI haven't actively encouraged the ruination of a GAA club and paid the legal costs of going to the High Court.

Maybe the FAI should try help the soccer club against the GAA club here, see what happens. And no, not all GAA heads around the country would start raising the issue at their won local clubs.

Orizio

micks wrote: »

I do presume that the action for the club went something along these lines?
Club seeks to follow on from planning -> consults county board -> who consult Croke park -> who advise county board -> who advise club -> who take action

There's a lot of levels of the GAA involved is there not? Is there anyone left out of the loop other than players/team? So why is it unfair to generalise in this case? No one person made this decision or actioned it.

The reaction on the other hand could very well have been one person acting on their own, a person from any one of a number of groups aggrieved by the original action

More bad PR for the GAA ..................it just keep coming

You do realise the players and ordinary members that make up the bulk of the GAA have no say in what happened, making any generalisation about the GAA including said players and members is redundant and worthless.

These arguments about members/players complaining to Croker etc seem to have more then a touch of double standards. First, sending a letter to Croker about the incident would do **** all good and be completely ignored and secondly, considering the apathy and laziness that encompasses Irish people in particular and humanity in general, its an impossible (and useless) request. Lets be honest - do people here write letters and formally complain everytime the FAI does something wrong? Lets not expect more out of other then we do out of ourselves.

Really, your problem is with this GAA club in Kerry (and Thomas Davis GAA if you wish) and Croker, rather then with players and members.

And finally after a weekend of secterianism and thuggery at a certain international match, I don't think we need to talk about who is or isn't winning an imaginary PR war between both sports. Both sports have had bad press this week.

Ronan|Raven

I assume you are referring to what happened in Northern Ireland? Thankfully "soccer" down here has nothing to do with that.

Orizio

Ronan|Raven wrote: »

I assume you are referring to what happened in Northern Ireland? Thankfully "soccer" down here has nothing to do with that.

Although I'm sure Irish soccer is better behaved then its British counterpart, in no way can you say the NI vs Poland game was a good advert for the sport, regardless of nation.

Hence my point that the sports have both gotten bad press over the past week.

DSB

Orizio wrote: »

Although I'm sure Irish soccer is better behaved then its British counterpart, in no way can you say the NI vs Poland game was a good advert for the sport, regardless of nation.

Hence my point that the sports have both gotten bad press over the past week.

T'wasn't, but no1 in the hierarchy takes pride in that, and therein lies the difference.

daithijjj

This is the only part of the article that should be taken seriously as someone telling the truth..........

"Meanhile, former senior captain of Milltown Castlemaine GAA club and player manager of Castlemaine United AFC, Jason Giles expressed his dismay at the recent developments and has decided to take action: "I will not be renewing my membership with Milltown/ Castlemaine GAA, a club I've been a lifelong member of. It's nothing against the players but I've been given no choice following this."

If the man who captained the senior gaelic team says he is behind the soccer club, then you have to assume that everything that happened was done in a mallicious fashion to the detriment of the community as a whole. This was no doubt carried out by a small minority of 'cavemen', bent on severing the community. They should all be fked out of the GAA club and let the democracy rule on this in an adult fashion. When there is legal judgement one way or another, then and only then, can progress be made. Hopefully the views of the people who sanctioned this night-time raid will die with them. How long do we have to keep pushing this 'disease' of GAA versus soccer onto the children in this country before common sense rises to the top?

Daysha

I'd pretty much back up what all my fellow GAA forum posters have been saying.

Fair enough, it wasn't the smartest thing in the world to do, but I find the rediculous generalisation of the organisation by some of the soccer posters here to be pretty pathetic.

I regularly post here from time to time, and while hurling will always be my number 1 sport, I still love soccer. But it saddens me to think that some of my fellow soccer supporters hold the GAA in such disregard.

I recently expressed my views on why I've moved towards the GAA rather than soccer in recent years in a post that, ironically enough, has been thanked by the same people here who have been abusing the association left right and centre. In case you need reminding, here it is.

You may say that abuse was well deserved given whats been happening in Kerry recently, but are you honestly telling me you completely respected the GAA before it happened?! It's quite obvious a number of posters here hold a severe grudge against the association, and while everyone is entitled to their opinion, there is a fine line between a vaild opinion and, what Orizio pointed out earlier, a bigoted opinion.

cournioni

CiaranC wrote: »

It IS the GAA as a whole. These directives come from headquarters, not from local level.

That is one of the funniest things I've ever read. Shows how ignorant you are when it comes to the GAA.

Lord Trollington

The absolute ignorance on this thread being shown by so called "soccer fans" is unbelievable..
These same soccer fans, if i asked them the score in the Bohs v Cork city Match the other night they wouldn't be able to tell me.
The very ones who are calling the GAA red necks and biggots are in actual fact biggots themselves with some of the comments they are making.
How some of these comments are still up is beyond me.
If the pitch is in fact the GAA's then it is their's to do with it as they wish. if not then they have something to answer to.
Regardless of the morals surrounding their actions.
its as simple as that

bohsman

whycliff wrote: »

The absolute ignorance on this thread being shown by so called "soccer fans" is unbelievable..
These same soccer fans, if i asked them the score in the Bohs v Cork city Match the other night they wouldn't be able to tell me.
The very ones who are calling the GAA red necks and biggots are in actual fact biggots themselves with some of the comments they are making.
How some of these comments are still up is beyond me.
If the pitch is in fact the GAA's then it is their's to do with it as they wish. if not then they have something to answer to.
Regardless of the morals surrounding their actions.
its as simple as that

Wrong. Most of the posters in this thread have been LOI fans. The fact that the GAH actively tried to kill a football club in this country would have a lot to do with it - Man Utd fans wouldnt have many reasons to hate them.

CiaranC

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

That is one of the funniest things I've ever read. Shows how ignorant you are when it comes to the GAA.

For the second time, the local club official is quoted as saying it was a directive form HQ. Jesus.

The absolute ignorance on this thread being shown by so called "soccer fans" is unbelievable..
These same soccer fans, if i asked them the score in the Bohs v Cork city Match the other night they wouldn't be able to tell me.
The very ones who are calling the GAA red necks and biggots are in actual fact biggots themselves with some of the comments they are making.
How some of these comments are still up is beyond me.

As bohsman said, practically all of the posters in this thread are LOI fans, and watched the GAA spend upwards of a million euro on trying to destroy Shamrock Rovers FC. Do you expect us to just forget about it?

invincibleirish

I grew up in a rural area with a strong GAA club and a decent football team. There has been friction between the 2 going back to at least the 1970s (before my time obviously), I can give numerous anecdotes about the GAA and its members 'frustrating' efforts to develop the beautiful game in my area.

Let me make clear, like other posters, that a lot of people in the GAA are dead on, but areas of the organisation are clearly stuck in retro mode when it comes to dealing with other sports.

My area is not an isolated example, the town which we neighbour, has had a strong GAA tradition. Football & Rugby have really taken off in the past 10-15 yrs, and this has weakened the GAA in the town considerably. It did so because the GAA people were pressuring the kids at 12/13/14 years old to pick one sport GAA and stick with it when these kids were playing all of them and just enjoying it, that and the infamous GAA tactic of scheduling training at whatever time the soccer/rugby training sessions are on. Of course a lot of the kids told them where to go and played the games where the coaches were not making them pick and choose.

This case in Kerry is not unique, far from it. There is a neanderthal element within the GAA who do not like other sports and actively seek to undermine them where possible.

Btw I love Cork Hurling, and i played lots of Gah in my youf. Don't write me off as a bigot.

CoachBoone

invincibleirish wrote: »

I grew up in a rural area with a strong GAA club and a decent football team. There has been friction between the 2 going back to at least the 1970s (before my time obviously), I can give numerous anecdotes about the GAA and its members 'frustrating' efforts to develop the beautiful game in my area.

Let me make clear, like other posters, that a lot of people in the GAA are dead on, but areas of the organisation are clearly stuck in retro mode when it comes to dealing with other sports.

My area is not an isolated example, the town which we neighbour, has had a strong GAA tradition. Football & Rugby have really taken off in the past 10-15 yrs, and this has weakened the GAA in the town considerably. It did so because the GAA people were pressuring the kids at 12/13/14 years old to pick one sport GAA and stick with it when these kids were playing all of them and just enjoying it, that and the infamous GAA tactic of scheduling training at whatever time the soccer/rugby training sessions are on. Of course a lot of the kids told them where to go and played the games where the coaches were not making them pick and choose.

This case in Kerry is not unique, far from it. There is a neanderthal element within the GAA who do not like other sports and actively seek to undermine them where possible.

Btw I love Cork Hurling, and i played lots of Gah in my youf. Don't write me off as a bigot.

Exact same thing happened in my town.

Daysha

CiaranC wrote: »

As bohsman said, practically all of the posters in this thread are LOI fans, and watched the GAA spend upwards of a million euro on trying to destroy Shamrock Rovers FC. Do you expect us to just forget about it?

Fair enough. But would you agree that small minded, bigoted, generalised remarks about the association is ok then? There are a lot of things I could say about some LOI supporters in this country. But unlike some of you guys I'd never generalise and put all them in the same catagory.

I mean, FFS, 80% of the GAA wants to see soccer eridicated?!? Come off it.

invincibleirish

Daysha wrote: »

Fair enough. But would you agree that small minded, bigoted, generalised remarks about the association is ok then? There are a lot of things I could say about some LOI supporters in this country. But unlike some of you guys I'd never generalise and put all them in the same catagory.

I mean, FFS, 80% of the GAA wants to see soccer eridicated?!? Come off it.

Why are you going off topic? who cares about what you think about some LoI fans? they have not tore up anyones pitches. Neither have the FAI, and neither have NI & Polish hooligans who were mentioned earlier. You and other gah posters have come in here getting all precious because people are dissing in your eyes the GAA.

Yet i'm not seeing any indignation from you on behalf of the club who have lost their pitch after orders coming from the organisation you are a member of decided to act unilaterally, there were other ways to deal with this. Castlemaine GAA could have went into dialogue with the club & community, they could have told them what their plans were, they could have at least got the solicitors to provide notice of their plans. But no! they went in the middle of the night and ploughed up the pitch! its a cowardly & indefensible act. For shame on the GAA.

Daysha

Why are you going off topic? who cares about what you think about some LoI fans? they have not tore up anyones pitches. Neither have the FAI, and neither have NI & Polish hooligans who were mentioned earlier. You and other gah posters have come in here getting all precious because people are dissing in your eyes the GAA.

Are you even surprised GAA posters have posted here given some of the idiotic statements we've had to read about the association. I was simply making the point to help people understand why we'd feel so agrieved over reading such stuff.

Yet i'm not seeing any indignation from you on behalf of the club who have lost their pitch after orders coming from the organisation you are a member of decided to act unilaterally, there were other ways to deal with this.

Then I suggest you read the same topic on the GAA forum. I've already called the GAA club in question stupid, idiotic and childish. Which they are.

Orizio

invincibleirish wrote: »

I grew up in a rural area with a strong GAA club and a decent football team. There has been friction between the 2 going back to at least the 1970s (before my time obviously), I can give numerous anecdotes about the GAA and its members 'frustrating' efforts to develop the beautiful game in my area.

Let me make clear, like other posters, that a lot of people in the GAA are dead on, but areas of the organisation are clearly stuck in retro mode when it comes to dealing with other sports.

My area is not an isolated example, the town which we neighbour, has had a strong GAA tradition. Football & Rugby have really taken off in the past 10-15 yrs, and this has weakened the GAA in the town considerably. It did so because the GAA people were pressuring the kids at 12/13/14 years old to pick one sport GAA and stick with it when these kids were playing all of them and just enjoying it, that and the infamous GAA tactic of scheduling training at whatever time the soccer/rugby training sessions are on. Of course a lot of the kids told them where to go and played the games where the coaches were not making them pick and choose.

This case in Kerry is not unique, far from it. There is a neanderthal element within the GAA who do not like other sports and actively seek to undermine them where possible.

Btw I love Cork Hurling, and i played lots of Gah in my youf. Don't write me off as a bigot.

What GAA club in Cork is it invincible? My own GAA club has piles of players who play soccer and rugby and there hasn't been any friction or problems from the coaches. Similarly, my nieces and nephews play other sports besides GAA and there hasn't been any problems, my brother actually coaching GAA underage and is happy to send his son to both GAA and soccer on the sunday.

I personally plan to coach GAA and would never go along the lines of telling lads/girls not to play other sports, its petty, unnecessary and off-putting. Unfortunately, I know lads who play both GAA and rugby (in Na Piarsigh) with the GAA lads being told by the rugby coaches to quit GAA because it ruins their physique (an understandable but still wrong problem if these lads played as props or lock, but they don't), so this kind of thing goes both way. My point generally is that this is a problem with the coaches themselves, and is no way restricted to the GAA. The over-riding point is that they are human, and thus act in selfish, insecure and greedy ways.

Finally, I would never let the dinosaurs ruin my love for the unique and exceptional sport of hurling. Everytime I go to a Cork hurling match I'm giving money to a county board full of wothless petty ***** loathed the county over. Everyone acts like this however - we all pay taxes to a state that is incompetent and often undemocratic for example. My point is again that judging others, and specifically in this case GAA fans, with standards that we do not hold to ourselves is dishonest and hyprocritical. We all fund people and organisations we do not like or respect, because as individuals we decide its a necessary evil to follow sports, or causes, we love.

invincibleirish

Daysha wrote: »

Are you even surprised GAA posters have posted here given some of the idiotic statements we've had to read about the association.

What idiotic statements? people here have strong opinions on the GAA and unlike the GAA forum don't automatically have a rose tinted view of the organisation by dint of membership, and can you blame them? it seems to me in this particular example the GAA organisation, through its local club, chose the most provocative & antagonistic action possible in dealing with this issue.

invincibleirish

Orizio wrote: »

What GAA club in Cork is it invincible? My own GAA club has piles of players who play soccer and rugby and there hasn't been any friction or problems from the coaches. Similarly, my nieces and nephews play other sports besides GAA and there hasn't been any problems, my brother actually coaching GAA underage and is happy to send his son to both GAA and soccer on the sunday.

I personally plan to coach GAA and would never go along the lines of telling lads/girls not to play other sports, its petty, unnecessary and off-putting. Unfortunately, I know lads who play both GAA and rugby (in Na Piarsigh) with the GAA lads being told by the rugby coaches to quit GAA because it ruins their physique (an understandable but still wrong problem if these lads played as props or lock, but they don't), so this kind of thing goes both way. My point generally is that this is a problem with the coaches themselves, and is no way restricted to the GAA. The over-riding point is that they are human, and thus act in selfish, insecure and greedy ways.

Finally, I would never let the dinosaurs ruin my love for the unique and exceptional sport of hurling. Everytime I go to a Cork hurling match I'm giving money to a county board full of wothless petty ***** loathed the county over. Everyone acts like this however - we all pay taxes to a state that is incompetent and often undemocratic for example. My point is again that judging others, and specifically in this case GAA fans, with standards that we do not hold to ourselves is dishonest and hyprocritical. We all fund people and organisations we do not like or respect, because as individuals we decide its a necessary evil to follow sports, or causes, we love.

You mention dinosaurs and thats it. There are some of them in the GAA, just like in every other organisation in Ireland who cling to nonsense old fashioned views. Can't we all just get along.

Daysha

invincibleirish wrote: »

What idiotic statements? people here have strong opinions on the GAA and unlike the GAA forum don't automatically have a rose tinted view of the organisation by dint of membership, and can you blame them? it seems to me in this particular example the GAA organisation, through its local club, chose the most provocative & antagonistic action possible in dealing with this issue.

Again, I find it hilarious that you accuse the GAA forum of having a rose-tinted view when some LOI supporters accuse us of being bigots and Gahzi's.

invincibleirish

Daysha wrote: »

Again, I find it hilarious that you accuse the GAA forum of having a rose-tinted view when some LOI supporters accuse us of being bigots and Gahzi's.

I'm sure you can appreciate why some LoI fans have a less then favourable view of the GAA.

Daysha

invincibleirish wrote: »

I'm sure you can appreciate why some LoI fans have a less then favourable view of the GAA.

And I'm sure you can appreciate why the GAA posters can be so rightly annoyed by such stupid, generalised comments that are insulting to every GAA supporter in the entire country.

CiaranC

Daysha wrote: »

Again, I find it hilarious that you accuse the GAA forum of having a rose-tinted view when some LOI supporters accuse us of being bigots and Gahzi's.

Again, what do you expect?

This is an Irish football forum. If most of the LOI posters on here said what the really thought of the GAA, theyd be banned.

CiaranC

Daysha wrote: »

And I'm sure you can appreciate why the GAA posters can be so rightly annoyed by such stupid, generalised comments that are insulting to every GAA supporter in the entire country.

Come back to us when our organisation attempts to use financial and political power to destroy your most famous, most successful club when they are their most vunerable.

Until then, stick to the bogball forum.

Daysha

CiaranC wrote: »

Again, what do you expect?

I don't have an issue with LOI supporters disliking the GAA. What do I take an issue with are comments that are abusive to every real GAA fan.

Look at it this way. Last time I went to a Waterford United league game, we were home to Shamrock Rovers. When I was celebrating the win following the match a Rovers fan went up to my face and in no uncertain terms told me to shut the fcuk up or he'd kick the shíte out of me.

Now, if I came along to this forum afterwards and accused EVERY LOI fan of being abusive cnuts who deserve to be locked up, I'd be banned.

Daysha

CiaranC wrote: »

Come back to us when our organisation attempts to use financial and political power to destroy your most famous, most successful club when they are their most vunerable.

Until then, stick to the bogball forum.

Nah, I think I'll stick around here thanks.

CiaranC

Daysha wrote: »

Now, if I came along to this forum afterwards and accused EVERY LOI fan of being abusive cnuts who deserve to be locked up, I'd be banned.

Will you stop with the 'its an isolated incident, its down the the individual club, its not the GAAs fault, its nothing to do with me, its some dinosaur from Mayo/Tallaght/Fingal/Kerrys fault, not mine, not the GAAs' bull****.

You might be able to convince yourself of that, but the rest of us look around and see it happening time and time again, each time directed by and supported by GAA HQ. You wont win anyone over here, so just give it up.

super_furry

Daysha wrote: »

Now, if I came along to this forum afterwards and accused EVERY LOI fan of being abusive cnuts who deserve to be locked up, I'd be banned.

Fair enough, but it wasn't the head of the FAI doing that, was it? However, the orders to tear up that pitch came from Croke Park. Tomas Davis vendetta against Shamrock Rovers was carried out with the full support of Croke Park and even now, Duffy is making threats about Fingal.

There is an anti grassroots soccer agenda within GAA that comes down from the top.

Daysha

CiaranC wrote: »

Will you stop with the 'its an isolated incident, its down the the individual club, its not the GAAs fault, its nothing to do with me, its some dinosaur from Mayo/Tallaght/Fingal/Kerrys fault, not mine, not the GAAs' bull****.

You might be able to convince yourself of that, but the rest of us look around and see it happening time and time again, each time directed by and supported by GAA HQ. You wont win anyone over here, so just give it up.

Are you even reading my posts? I never said it was an isolated incident and I never said it's not the GAA's fault. We got that cleared up now?

The vast majority of the GAA forum posters are in agreement that it was a stupid, idiotic, senseless thing to do. So stop suggesting that isn't the case.

I'll say it again. What I take issue with are some LOI posters coming in here and abusing every GAA supporter in the country because of the actions of others.

I'm finished in this topic btw. I know I'm not suddenly going to turn posters here into GAA fans, just like how you guys aren't going to get me to admit to being a bigoted Gahzi :rolleyes:

micks

Daysha wrote: »

I don't have an issue with LOI supporters disliking the GAA. What do I take an issue with are comments that are abusive to every real GAA fan.

Look at it this way. Last time I went to a Waterford United league game, we were home to Shamrock Rovers. When I was celebrating the win following the match a Rovers fan went up to my face and in no uncertain terms told me to shut the fcuk up or he'd kick the shíte out of me.

Now, if I came along to this forum afterwards and accused EVERY LOI fan of being abusive cnuts who deserve to be locked up, I'd be banned.

So if someone says that Fianna Fail have ruined the country - do they blame every single person associated with the party?

civis_liberalis

CoachBoone wrote: »

Exact same thing happened in my town.

Children were injured due to the antics of members of my local GAA club. Turning off the lights on the astroturf pitch before the allotted time was up on a bunch of kids, probably 8-10 year olds (rugby btw), when it was pitch dark and no other lighting to guide them through the still unfinished mess that surrounds the facility. This happened 3 or 4 sessions in a row, and on two of them occasions a child opened their knee on a rock.

dfx-

I find it very difficult to believe that nothing can be done by lower levels players or members to influence the situation. If they really wanted to. If you don't really want to, you are at best condoning it. What kind of organisation is it if they can't? Dictatorship?

Even when the Croke Park and isolated incident defences are redundant..

SectionF

It seems to me that whenever an issue like this crops up the subsequent discussion goes around in circles.
The response of GAA fans on the GAA forum has been more measured, and some have the grace to be embarrassed or at least the wit to see how this reflects on their organization nationally.

bohsman

Daysha wrote: »

Again, I find it hilarious that you accuse the GAA forum of having a rose-tinted view when some LOI supporters accuse us of being bigots and Gahzi's.

Dont worry, we hate the FAI as much.

joe123

Have really grown to hate the GAA. Played minor football with a club and was always present for games/training. One day I was told to stop wearing soccer jerseys to training I said **** that. Then one day I went to a soccer match instead of training and I was mentioned in the dressing room of the GAA team as having let down the team at the next match. Quit that day.

All you get in my area is "ah that foreign/tan sport" regards soccer.Load of bolox the ga imo. They are stuck back in the 1900s.

cournioni

CiaranC wrote: »

For the second time, the local club official is quoted as saying it was a directive form HQ. Jesus.

Well damn Nicky Brennan to hell. He really is an evil man, directing these pawns to plow up this pitch... :rolleyes:

I couldn't give two flying ****s where this person said they got directives from, it certainly wasn't anywhere close to being "HQ". This is just a case of narrow minded little ****es from a club in Kerry. Nothing more nothing less. And to be honest Ciaran, you sound like the soccer version of these guys.

CiaranC

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

Well damn Nicky Brennan to hell. He really is an evil man, directing these pawns to plow up this pitch... :rolleyes:

I couldn't give two flying ****s where this person said they got directives from, it certainly wasn't anywhere close to being "HQ". This is just a case of narrow minded little ****es from a club in Kerry. Nothing more nothing less. And to be honest Ciaran, you sound like the soccer version of these guys.

'its an isolated incident, its down the the individual club, its not the GAAs fault, its nothing to do with me, its some dinosaur from Mayo/Tallaght/Fingal/Kerrys fault, not mine, not the GAAs'

:rolleyes:

PS Who the **** is Nicky Brennan

therecklessone

CiaranC wrote: »

PS Who the **** is Nicky Brennan

You seem fairly certain of the role played by the GAA hierarchy, at a minimum I'd have expected you to know who the President of the Association was.

CiaranC

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or is it
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No its the guy on the left right?

therecklessone

CiaranC wrote: »

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or is it
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No its the guy on the left right?

If you have nothing more constructive to add, add nothing.

Posts like that will get this thread closed much quicker.

mike65

This is being talked about now on Liveline

www.rte.ie/radio1

stovelid

Mushy wrote: »

But no, the GAA wouldn't eradicate soccer from Ireland, quite the opposite considering the organisation allowed soccer be played in the main stadium to keep home games within the country.

At a time of dropping attendances, they're set to make 40 million quid from the IRFU and FAI when all the games have been played.

They've garnered incredible publicity by passing off a canny commercial move as a act of selfless altruism.

They've had the, no-doubt intense, pleasure of publicly receiving the incompetents of the FAI with cap-in-hand.

And it doesn't affect their general stance on the playing of other codes in their stadia.

Why do GAA fans persist in passing off the opening of Croker as an act of supreme sacrifice or kindly avuncular act toward other codes?

It's been a bleeding bonanza from start to finish for the GAA! How on earth do you think they probably sold the opening of Croker to members in the first place?

therecklessone

Friendly reminders do not seem to have worked, so here in rather starker terms is a reminder to all posters:

If you wish to participate in this debate, remember the forum rules, particularly those related to abuse. If you feel you cannot post here without abusing the GAA (by reference to Nazis, Taliban, or some other bête noire) or any of it's officers then it's best you keep your thoughts to yourself.

It is possible to be critical of the GAA without resorting to childish abuse, abuse which will cheapen your argument and lessens it's impact.