Munster V Ospreys 12th April

runny babbit · 13-04-2009 1:08pm

Playing the field..lol.

anonymous_joe · 13-04-2009 1:13pm

twinytwo wrote: »

munster out perform them in every position.. Hook likes tom compare himself to the likes of o gara and carter and wilko but as seen yestersday he is way out of his dept as were the ospreys.. they were frankly given a lesson in how to play rugby .....

ps god damit why couldnt warrick have been irish

And?

Georgia and Namibia came damn close to outperforming us in 2007, that didn't mean their players were as good.

Look at it this way - the Ospreys front row is very strong, probably shades Munster's, their locks, Wyn Jones and Gough, both internationals, are comparable to DOC and POC, though the Irish lads edge them, back row I'd say Munster have a better one, half backs, well, Philips and Hook versus O'Gara and O'Leary - a year ago we'd have gone for hte Welsh after their Grand Slam, this year it's us, but realistically, both are very strong. The Ospreys were missing a few first choice backs, but with their full squad, their backline would probably be more talented than Munster's - that makes their crushing defeat even more embarrassing.

Johnson's got one hell of a task in organising that sorry mess into a team for next season - if he does, they could go on to do wonders.

barnesd · 13-04-2009 1:34pm

anonymous_joe wrote: »

but with their full squad, their backline would probably be more talented than Munster's - that makes their crushing defeat even more embarrassing.

Hang on, what? The defeat is more embarrassing because players who were out injured are possibly more talented than some of the Munster players? That makes no sense to me.

Munster were excellent yesterday but the Ospreys were absolutely rubbish. It was an easy game for Munster and doesn't particularly set them up too well for the SF, having said that they're still clear favourites.

anonymous_joe · 13-04-2009 1:39pm

barnesd wrote: »

Hang on, what? The defeat is more embarrassing because players who were out injured are possibly more talented than some of the Munster players? That makes no sense to me.

Munster were excellent yesterday but the Ospreys were absolutely rubbish. It was an easy game for Munster and doesn't particularly set them up too well for the SF, having said that they're still clear favourites.

Aye, just read over that. Doesn't quite make sense.

Ah well.

Judgement Day · 13-04-2009 2:49pm

Fairdues wrote: »

What a wonderful result for Munster. Hope they won't get too confident before their next game.[/quote

What a great game - right up there with the Grand Slam victory and the recent Munster/All Blacks game!! Don't worry, in case you haven't noticed Munster don't do over confidence (just us supporters) - from the coach right through all the players - each game is taken as it comes!

Bring on poor old Leinster - like lambs to the slaughter - they are going to be ripped apart.

C'mon Munster!

Laducar · 13-04-2009 3:42pm

It'll be some game and occasion but I just think munster look in a different class to anyone else

NickNolte · 13-04-2009 3:46pm

Laducar wrote: »

It'll be some game and occasion but I just think munster look in a different class to anyone else

Definitely. I'm just hoping that Leinster put in a good performance and give Munster a game. To be honest, a good day at the office for Leinster with better attacking rugby would be about the only team that could upset Munster at this stage. In the event that they reach the final, Munster will slaughter either Leicester or Cardiff.

Laducar · 13-04-2009 3:46pm

zuroph wrote: »

This was quite funny. Hard to hear on tv though, what other songs were sung? Good to hear thomond park in good voice, some of the earlier matches this season the crowd werent as up for it as they could be.

Always look on the bright side of life by a group of ospreys supporters in the ws just after half time ; a coupleof renditions of black velvet band which put a smile on tommy bowes face! A great rendition of stand up and fight just before the final whistle and the fields a few times

barnesd · 13-04-2009 3:48pm

NickNolte wrote: »

Munster will slaughter...Leicester

Is that a joke? Good one.

NickNolte · 13-04-2009 3:50pm

barnesd wrote: »

Is that a joke? Good one.

Leicester don't pose much by way of threat to Munster. I suppose we'll have to wait and see if the twain meet.

barnesd · 13-04-2009 3:51pm

NickNolte wrote: »

Leicester don't pose much by way of threat to Munster. I suppose we'll have to wait and see if the twain meet.

How on earth are you figuring that?

Stev_o · 13-04-2009 4:09pm

NickNolte wrote: »

Leicester don't pose much by way of threat to Munster. I suppose we'll have to wait and see if the twain meet.

What? Leicester will be joint favorites it win the thing!

NickNolte · 13-04-2009 4:11pm

barnesd wrote: »

How on earth are you figuring that?

A few things. First of all, Leicester let an ill-disciplined Bath attack them quite a bit yesterday and they could very easily have lost for that reason alone. If Munster get some of the attacking opportunities against Leicester that were handed to Bath, Munster will cut through them. Particularly if Murphy's defence is still shakey. Another thing, Ellis was pretty slow for large parts of the game yesterday and some of his passes were a bit ropey. While Leicester dominated the breakdown against Bath, I don't think they'll boss Munster in that area of the pitch either so distribution will be key for Leicester if they face Munster.

NickNolte · 13-04-2009 4:14pm

Stev_o wrote: »

What? Leicester will be joint favorites it win the thing!

Some people may agree with you but the experts definitely don't.

barnesd · 13-04-2009 4:14pm

NickNolte wrote: »

A few things. First of all, Leicester let an ill-disciplined Bath attack them quite a bit yesterday and they could very easily have lost for that reason alone. If Munster get some of the attacking opportunities against Leicester that were handed to Bath, Munster will cut through them. Particularly if Murphy's defence is still shakey. Another thing, Ellis was pretty slow for large parts of the game yesterday and some of his passes were a bit ropey. While Leicester dominated the breakdown against Bath, I don't think they'll boss Munster in that area of the pitch either so distribution will be key for Leicester if they face Munster.

So you're basing it solely on the Bath game? Ok.

And the experts said Quins would win handy yesterday.

NickNolte · 13-04-2009 4:17pm

barnesd wrote: »

So you're basing it solely on the Bath game? Ok.

And the experts said Quins would win handy yesterday.

Yeah, you're absolutely right. I'm wrong. Paddy Power's wrong. Good for you

barnesd · 13-04-2009 4:18pm

NickNolte wrote: »

Yeah, you're absolutely right. I'm wrong. Paddy Power's wrong. Good for you

You are wrong in saying Leicester pose no threat to Munster, definitely.

Laducar · 13-04-2009 4:21pm

funny enough I fancy Cardiff to beat Leicester but too early to be looking at final.

NickNolte · 13-04-2009 4:27pm

barnesd wrote: »

You are wrong in saying Leicester pose no threat to Munster, definitely.

Fair enough. Every team they face will pose some sort of a threat. Although I think Munster would certainly make lighter work of Leicester than they did of Biarritz or Toulouse previously. There's a reasonably good chance that this very fixture will materialise so we can discuss it further on the official match thread. If I'm wrong, I'll cook you a big plate of chops.

snip

barnesd · 13-04-2009 4:30pm

That is quite big.

Anyway Leicester will barely look at the final as a game of rugby, they'll spend 50 minutes just trying to knock the crap out of whoever they're playing, legally or illegally, then look to play a bit. They can stand up physically to any team in Europe, and they're mentally as strong as anyone too.

NickNolte · 13-04-2009 4:32pm

Delicious too. Hopefully for you Munster will get trounced.

jayteecork · 13-04-2009 4:46pm

Anyone know if Mafi will be eligible to play for Ireland under the residency rule or did he play U-12 for NZ or something awful like that that would rule him out?

Also, Someone reckoned Keith Earls might be a wild card for the Lions? anyone think he's in with a shout?

I can't imagine so myself, it's a lot smaller touring party than in 2005.

2005 was a bit of a joke to be honest, 4 scrum halfs? (and poor Peter Stinger still didn't get a lookin)

Stev_o · 13-04-2009 4:47pm

jayteecork wrote: »

Anyone know if Mafi will be eligible to play for Ireland under the residency rule or did he play U-12 for NZ or something awful like that that would rule him out?

Also, Someone reckoned Keith Earls might be a wild card for the Lions? anyone think he's in with a shout?

I can't imagine so myself, it's a lot smaller touring party than in 2005.

2005 was a bit of a joke to be honest, 4 scrum halfs? (and poor Peter Stinger still didn't get a lookin)

Not again:( No he can never play for Ireland as he played 7's for Nz same for Warwick 7's for the Aussies.

NickNolte · 13-04-2009 4:48pm

Stev_o wrote: »

Not again:( No he can never play for Ireland as he played 7's for Nz same for Warwick 7's for the Aussies.

What if I married him off to my sister? Would he be able to play then?

NickNolte · 13-04-2009 4:49pm

RuggieBear banned for 6 months for eating all my chops

jayteecork · 13-04-2009 4:51pm

Stev_o wrote: »

Not again:( No he can never play for Ireland as he played 7's for Nz same for Warwick 7's for the Aussies.

Surely they're gonna have to look into changing that rule?

7s is such a different game it's extraordinary.

It's a lot less similar that rugby league, for example, and it's perfectly ok to represent to different countries there.

I know the IRB runs the 7s as well but, they're gonna have to look at that rule imo.

And you say "not again" well at least I didn't start a new thread on the matter.

CatFromHue · 13-04-2009 5:26pm

i hope they dont change the rule

its only fair that you should be able to play for 1 country, otherwise international rugby could just end up like club rugby with songs before the games.

Micky Dolenz · 13-04-2009 6:21pm

barnesd wrote: »

Munster were excellent yesterday but the Ospreys were absolutely rubbish. It was an easy game for Munster and doesn't particularly set them up too well for the SF, having said that they're still clear favourites.

Munster thrased a team that is full of Grand slam winners and All Backs, this can only be a great thing for team morale and confidence. It shows what they are dioing is working. They don't have to change much for the rest of the season unlike their opponents .

I would rather give a team full of world class players a hiding then scrapping by in a rough game of rugby tbh.

barnesd · 13-04-2009 6:32pm

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Munster thrased a team that is full of Grand slam winners and All Backs, this can only be a great thing for team morale and confidence. It shows what they are dioing is working. They don't have to change much for the rest of the season unlike their opponents .

I would rather give a team full of world class players a hiding then scrapping by in a rough game of rugby tbh.

They are not full of world class players at all. They are not full of All Blacks, they had one former All Black. They had 6 Wales grand slam winners playing + Tommy Bowe. They were rubbish, I stand by that. Obviously it's going to be a boost to confidence and moral.

suppafly · 13-04-2009 7:22pm

I've watched the highlights i recorded back a few times now. Such a brilliant game. One of the funniest moments was towards the end of match when the crowd starting singing 'The black velvet band' for tommy bowe. It was brilliant and he salute the crowd on the side that started it too. Dunno if ye could hear that on the tv. Also Fred the band played during the pre-match entertainment too which was great too. A brilliant day altogether, looking forward to croke park

Micky Dolenz · 13-04-2009 7:27pm

barnesd wrote: »

They are not full of world class players at all. They are not full of All Blacks, they had one former All Black. They had 6 Wales grand slam winners playing + Tommy Bowe. They were rubbish, I stand by that. Obviously it's going to be a boost to confidence and moral.

Really I count 10 grand slam winners and two AB.

wixfjord · 13-04-2009 7:34pm

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Really I count 10 grand slam winners and two AB.

It doesnt matter they have been a poor outfit this season and without byrne and henson were missing incision and were worse. Its strange to say for a team with such attatcking players and mindset but they dont score large amounts of tries and arent very good going forward. Williams seems to get in the way more than anything these days. Having said that they are capable of beating most teams and it was a great performance from munster.

zenmonk · 14-04-2009 7:43am

They are a decent side but Munster strangled and steamrolled them, in fairness their heads dropped after halftime and score flattered.

zenmonk · 14-04-2009 7:46am

NickNolte wrote: »

What if I married him off to my sister? Would he be able to play then?

No, your sister would kill him in bed

barnesd · 14-04-2009 8:14am

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Really I count 10 grand slam winners and two AB.

You're right, Tiatia was capped twice in 2000. Therefore the Ospreys are brilliant.

Micky Dolenz · 14-04-2009 8:48am

barnesd wrote: »

You're right, Tiatia was capped twice in 2000. Therefore the Ospreys are brilliant.

whats with the attitude? Cos you were wrong?

Munster put a fine side to the sword, whetever or not they turned up is another thing, We can only play who is infront of us.

barnesd · 14-04-2009 8:54am

That wasn't a fine team. That was a rubbish team. It seems some people aren't happy with me calling the Ospreys rubbish, but I stand by it. They were. The fact Tiatia got capped in 2000 doesn't really change much.

murphym7 · 14-04-2009 9:04am

murphym7 wrote: »

I can see a Munster win, but not by much. It will come down to the kickers I'd say. I can't see Munster playing a wide expansive game. Ospreys will be really up for it though, they have a lot to prove. Can't wait.

Always knew we would trash them!:D

Worst prediction of year so far:o

RuggieBear · 14-04-2009 9:05am

give it a rest.

do you really think you are going to convince each other....

Webbs · 14-04-2009 11:45am

barnesd wrote: »

That wasn't a fine team. That was a rubbish team. It seems some people aren't happy with me calling the Ospreys rubbish, but I stand by it. They were. The fact Tiatia got capped in 2000 doesn't really change much.

As an Ospreys fan I couldnt agree with you more, they were awful, none of the q/f teams would have had any problem beating Ospreys the way they played. They have had an awful season and seem to have no direction - whether that is from the coaches or players I dont know, though my feeling is there is dissent with the players as to how the coaches want them to play and therefore there has been no belief or willingness to play for each other as a team. This was evident as soon as the POC try was scored you could see they just went through the motions for the rest of the match.
Super performance from Munster by the way, Warwick had one of those days you dream about, and thought Tipoki was at his aggressive best, made the job for the players around him so much easier, although Earls got the 2 tries he was not a patch on Tipoki, you need to wrap him in cotton wool until the S/F and probably the final.

CJhaughey · 14-04-2009 11:50am

Webbs wrote: »

Super performance from Munster by the way, Warwick had one of those days you dream about, and thought Tipoki was at his aggressive best, made the job for the players around him so much easier, although Earls got the 2 tries he was not a patch on Tipoki, you need to wrap him in cotton wool until the S/F and probably the final.

Tipoki has been injured since the NZ match, I take it you mean Mafi?

Otacon · 14-04-2009 11:52am

Webbs wrote: »

As an Ospreys fan I couldnt agree with you more, they were awful, none of the q/f teams would have had any problem beating Ospreys the way they played. They have had an awful season and seem to have no direction - whether that is from the coaches or players I dont know, though my feeling is there is dissent with the players as to how the coaches want them to play and therefore there has been no belief or willingness to play for each other as a team. This was evident as soon as the POC try was scored you could see they just went through the motions for the rest of the match.
Super performance from Munster by the way, Warwick had one of those days you dream about, and thought Tipoki was at his aggressive best, made the job for the players around him so much easier, although Earls got the 2 tries he was not a patch on Tipoki, you need to wrap him in cotton wool until the S/F and probably the final.

I think you mean Mafi, but I agree with the sentiments above. The Ospreys were crap tbh.

Not to take away from Munster's performance at all. They were immense. I honestly believe, based on the other matches, Munster could have beaten any team last weekend. They had a lot of space to work with and really had a spectacular match.

Can anyone post a link to some highlights? I want to see that Mafi offload again!

anonymous_joe · 14-04-2009 12:57pm

Otacon wrote: »

I think you mean Mafi, but I agree with the sentiments above. The Ospreys were crap tbh.

Not to take away from Munster's performance at all. They were immense. I honestly believe, based on the other matches, Munster could have beaten any team last weekend. They had a lot of space to work with and really had a spectacular match.

Can anyone post a link to some highlights? I want to see that Mafi offload again!

One of the best offloads I've ever seen. Really great stuff.

dreamer_ire · 14-04-2009 7:36pm

View from the North Stand

gearstick · 14-04-2009 8:33pm

Otacon wrote: »

Can anyone post a link to some highlights? I want to see that Mafi offload again!

http://www.rugbydump.blogspot.com/ this site usually puts up high lights of the matches, check it out

Judgement Day · 14-04-2009 9:23pm

Thanks for that link gearstick some cracking stuff on that site - including all highlights of Munster/Ospreys - I have signed up with them.

Fishtits · 14-04-2009 9:56pm

Webbs,

good post, Ospreys are most definitely not performing to their ability this year, internal issues need to be sorted out decisively, its a disgrace to see a team with such talent under performing to such an extent.

Having said that, Munster are humming at the moment, hard to see anyone beating them if they retain their current form.

Leinster gave an absolute master class in blood, guts , discipline & confidence at The Stoop, just too many errors making it hard for themselves.

Their time will come, I don't think it will be this year though, they have achieved top seeding and are showing all the signs of winners but I think they are still a year or so behind Munster. We can afford to be patient.

...who are this Cardiff crowd? :eek:

Munster V Ospreys 12th April

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