Rent Suppliment!!

gcgirl

bobbiw wrote: »

And where would you go, most people cant speak another language so mainland europe is out. America is out as you need a working visa and they are not giving them out. UK possibly but they are in a similar situation. Austrailia is probobly the only option.

Austrailia i know loads that have gone over in the past year not enough work there, Canada are Closing down on visa's for there, Theres always Poland!!

questioner

white apples wrote: »

Hello foxy, what do you think this government are? Sensible. :eek:

Nothing they do makes any sense. Even a single person on dole and rent allowance has a tiny tiny incentive to go working for minimum wage when they've paid their taxes & expenses. And as well as not decreasing SW payments, they increase taxes!! which means the difference will be even less now! Like seriously, how can they say that this makes sense? They should be encouraging ppl to go out and work.

minimum wage = 38 x 8.65 = approx 330 euro. Working conditons generally awful, hours unsociable, soul destroying. Zero assistance from social welfare.

Unemployment benefit = 204 euro
Rent supplement = 75-120 euro a week
medical card = Priceless

incentives to work = zero.

O'Coonassa

global economy = recession

available jobs = less than zero

It's cracking me up how so many people are fine about the far larger cut of their tax going to the banksters and are in fact rabid about a few spongers (who so far as employers or any sensible people would be concerned are actually unemployable)

Hobbes

bobbiw wrote: »

And where would you go, most people cant speak another language so mainland europe is out.

Learn to speak the language.

snubbleste

• Entitlement is being restricted to individuals who have been an existing tenant for at least six months or who have been placed on a local authority housing list following a full housing assessment. This measure is intended to avoid people moving into private rented accommodation simply because of the availability of Rent Supplement.
• The minimum contribution that recipients of Rent Supplement & Mortgage Interest Supplement make towards their rent or mortgage is being increased from €18 to €24 per week (This will bring rent supplement contributions more in line with local authority differential rents).
• The maximum rent limits that will apply to new Rent Supplement payments are being reduced to reflect reductions in private rent levels in recent months. Reductions will be 6% to 7% on average, ranging up to 10%, depending on the geographical area and household size.
• In order to encourage landlords of existing rent supplement tenants to reduce their rents given the reductions in the market as a whole, the payments currently being made to tenants are being reduced by 8%. While tenants are contractually obliged to pay the rent agreed to in their lease, it is hoped that landlords will decrease the rent in recognition of the fact that rents have fallen generally and that there are now a large number of vacant rental properties nationally.

http://www.welfare.ie/EN/Press/PressReleases/2009/Pages/pr070409.aspx

Devilman

snubbleste wrote: »

http://www.welfare.ie/EN/Press/PressReleases/2009/Pages/pr070409.aspx

The interesting thing about the last point is, what happens to those who have already negotiated downwards this year (or are already at the current market rate). Landlords are legally only allowed to review rents once every 12 months, so they are not likely to review them again this year.

aare

Devilman wrote: »

The interesting thing about the last point is, what happens to those who have already negotiated downwards this year (or are already at the current market rate). Landlords are legally only allowed to review rents once every 12 months, so they are not likely to review them again this year.

That is very, very true...somebody needs to iron that one out...

They also need to clarify if they are, in fact, leaving existing tenants to contribute e6 per week extra AND 8% of existing rent unless the landlord will reduce, which is exceptionally unfair...

As though people are responsible for their landlords!

danio

I am applying for rent allowance but I am afraid I pay over the max. I read that if your actual rent is higher than the local maximum, you may be refused the rent supplement entirely.

I live in Dublin, single person in shared accomodation. How much is the max rent that I can pay in order to get the supplement?

aare

danio wrote: »

I am applying for rent allowance but I am afraid I pay over the max. I read that if your actual rent is higher than the local maximum, you may be refused the rent supplement entirely.

I live in Dublin, single person in shared accomodation. How much is the max rent that I can pay in order to get the supplement?

This week (pre Budget) it is 98euros...

If I were you I'd pitch it at 90euros...be on the safe side?

(THIS is the aspect I hate )

Quartet

O'Coonassa wrote: »

global economy = recession

available jobs = less than zero

It's cracking me up how so many people are fine about the far larger cut of their tax going to the banksters and are in fact rabid about a few spongers (who so far as employers or any sensible people would be concerned are actually unemployable)

from the Social Welfare Web Site Here

By providing almost €21.3 billion for social welfare – 20% more than what was spent in 2008 – the Government has ensured that income support will be available ...and has avoided a general cut in weekly social welfare payment rates.

Thats how much those still in work and being crippled by tax are paying....

aare

Quartet wrote: »

Thats how much those still in work and being crippled by tax are paying....

And a combination of:

• Homelessness
• Starving people
• Civil Unrest (you seriously think they will lie down and die quietly?)

Will make that better, exactly, how?

Better idea...

How would you feel about going on paying people enough to actually stay alive and have a roof over their heads, and setting up an agency to explore and allocate work they could do, in return for just travel costs that will save other people actual money until they can find work?

Quartet

My original Quote Here

from the Social Welfare Web Site Here


By providing almost €21.3 billion for social welfare – 20% more than what was spent in 2008 – the Government has ensured that income support will be available ...and has avoided a general cut in weekly social welfare payment rates.
Thats how much those still in work and being crippled by tax are paying....

This ref is only valid in relation to the post it was quoted in btw! Nothing to do with what I think you are saying

aare wrote: »

And a combination of:

• Homelessness
• Starving people
• Civil Unrest (you seriously think they will lie down and die quietly?)

Will make that better, exactly, how?

No dont get what you are saying here?...The above is the amount spent in Social Welfare. A huge amount of national expenditure extracted from those still with enough incentive to work....

If you mean that these workers will be homeless, starving and civil unrest after being unable to pay their rents, mortgages and food bills and finally revolt from being milked like cows then I suppose I agree with you

How would you feel about going on paying people enough to actually stay alive and have a roof over their heads, and setting up an agency to explore and allocate work they could do, in return for just travel costs that will save other people actual money until they can find work?

yeah that sounds like an idea - realistic?

partyatmygaff

NTLsucks wrote: »

oh no the rich lawyers and doctors paying 2K rent arent getting any reductions, lets all say a prayer for them in this tough times.

Too bad for them, they dont need a rent allowance nor dole as they actually did something in their lives and went to college unlike you and the rest of other dole spongers who decide to do nothing more than live off everyone else's taxes

aare

Quartet wrote: »

If you mean that these workers will be homeless, starving and civil unrest after being unable to pay their rents, mortgages and food bills and finally revolt from being milked like cows then I suppose I agree with you

Whether those, or those already unemployed...none of them starving, homeless, or creating civil unrest would work terribly well with my schedule...you?

Quartet wrote: »

yeah that sounds like an idea - realistic?

Could have been done years ago is someone had the sense to fire FAS and start over (and, having socialised with 'em, I am afraid I know more "whereof I speak" than I actually care to).

See, it depends on how you do it...there is always labour people can't do themselves, and have to pay for, and, these days, they could probably use saving the money.

Whoever needs the work pays the worker's travel costs (at the rate of FAS employees travel expenses...or in real terms? You choose. ) and provides tea, bikkies and a midday meal (if appropriate).

No-one is allowed to work more than 30 hours a week (because looking for paid work does require time).

All you need to do is set up a database. I think you might be surprised how many people will be only too happy to offer their skills...or...offer to learn from the skills of others in areas they would, never, ordinarily be able to...cooking, gardening...they are all areas where people CAN labour and learn...there are loads...

It could be really great...and there is no reason why it couldn't be a great, fun unifying project too (remember how nice it was when people weren't roving around looking for people to hate?)

PS. I missed you too;)

Quartet

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Too bad for them, they dont need a rent allowance nor dole as they actually did something in their lives and went to college unlike you and the rest of other dole spongers who decide to do nothing more than live off everyone else's taxes

Who says wisdom only comes with age

pete2626

hey guys. i have a question. I needed to get my rent suppliment backdated but when i went through the process they wouldn't give me the full amount so i have to appeal it. Can anyone help? I need to get this goin as quick as posssible as i have no money and cant pay the rent. This is really stressing me out. Any advice would be really appreciated.

ixoy

pete2626 wrote: »

hey guys. i have a question. I needed to get my rent suppliment backdated but when i went through the process they wouldn't give me the full amount so i have to appeal it. Can anyone help? I need to get this goin as quick as posssible as i have no money and cant pay the rent. This is really stressing me out. Any advice would be really appreciated.

This question is far more suited to the State Benefits forum.