Nokia N97

towel401 · 27-07-2009 7:08pm

Nokia messaging is the biggest load if ****e pushed out by Nokia in recent years. the interface sucks, it sends your password to nokia, all your emails go through their proxy and they plan to make you pay for it soon.

and i'ts not really 'push' either, unless you have a IMAP server that supports push it will be just their servers checking your servers every few minutes. since they are using HTTP for the nokia messaging protocol I doubt it would be much more efficient in data usage than checking the POP3 server directly every couple of minutes. and if ya got IMAP then you might as well use that directly too

My E63 tried to install this crap yesterday when i wanted to set up my email. one of the main reasons I got the E63 over the E75 was the lack of Nokia Messaging.

but there are other email clients out there that connect directly to the server. i think they are commercial though

still i'd rather pay for a good email client than use the ****ty one for free.

Nokia messaging will eventually be a subscription service you pay for separately through your mobile phone network, separate from data but I really doubt it will be cheaper.

Davy · 27-07-2009 7:11pm

towel401 wrote: »

they plan to make you pay for it soon.

Only for lower cost phones. The likes of qwerty phones that are built for email wont be paying for it, example the e72

towel401 · 27-07-2009 7:14pm

Davy wrote: »

Only for lower cost phones. The likes of qwerty phones that are built for email wont be paying for it, example the e72

meh even if it was free forever i wouldn't want it because of the proxy thing and the way it looks.

i think theres one called profimail or something thats supposed to be good.

nokia are basically trying to copy blackberry and think the best way of doing that is forcing everyone to use a managed, centralised email service

Italia · 27-07-2009 7:17pm

Hmmmm... more confused...

Had a look at the Nokia messaging - don't really like the interface and am not interested in giving out my pwd's.
Anyone tried /used Profimail?
Still don't understand the "push"technology...

towel401 · 27-07-2009 7:21pm

Italia wrote: »

Hmmmm... more confused...
Had a look at the Nokia messaging - don't really like the interface and am not interested in giving out my pwd's.
Anyone tried /used Profimail?
Still don't understand the "push"technology...

well the simplest form of push would be a slightly modified IMAP server that your phone has a constant connection to and sends you the emails as they come

disabling the proxy service and accessing direct might be possible. have a look at this, mind you the interface will still suck

http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/discussions/board/message?board.id=messaging&message.id=16911&jump=true#M16911

and also

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push-IMAP

sbhatia · 27-07-2009 8:49pm

Italia wrote: »

Hmmmm... more confused...
Had a look at the Nokia messaging - don't really like the interface and am not interested in giving out my pwd's.
Anyone tried /used Profimail?
Still don't understand the "push"technology...

Using profimail long time and love it.

best bits: Up to 35 emails account support ( good for me)
Option to transfer licence to another device if you want to change
Push notification
Very easy to setup
Nice UI

My advice don't buy yet, there is always promotion going on, i bought mine for €10, keep checking lonelycatgames.com for that and buy now that will bring you to symbiangear.com and once you see promotion grab it.:)

sbhatia · 27-07-2009 8:52pm

Lucky you i just checked it and promotion is going on for €11.
https://www.symbiangear.com/en/eur/device:Nokia_N97/cart.html
good luck.

Boxfresh · 27-07-2009 10:47pm

What's the touchscreen like on this phone? I know it's not like an iphone screen. Would it be something similar to a Nintendo DS for example which you can use a stylus with?

Gunther_Gloop · 27-07-2009 10:49pm

Boxfresh wrote: »

What's the touchscreen like on this phone? I know it's not like an iphone screen. Would it be something similar to a Nintendo DS for example which you can use a stylus with?

Yes. Better than the original DS. More like the DSi or DS Lite for sensitivity.

Professey Chin · 27-07-2009 11:38pm

towel401 wrote: »

Nokia messaging is the biggest load if ****e pushed out by Nokia in recent years. the interface sucks, it sends your password to nokia, all your emails go through their proxy and they plan to make you pay for it soon.

and i'ts not really 'push' either, unless you have a IMAP server that supports push it will be just their servers checking your servers every few minutes. since they are using HTTP for the nokia messaging protocol I doubt it would be much more efficient in data usage than checking the POP3 server directly every couple of minutes. and if ya got IMAP then you might as well use that directly too

My E63 tried to install this crap yesterday when i wanted to set up my email. one of the main reasons I got the E63 over the E75 was the lack of Nokia Messaging.

but there are other email clients out there that connect directly to the server. i think they are commercial though still i'd rather pay for a good email client than use the ****ty one for free.

Nokia messaging will eventually be a subscription service you pay for separately through your mobile phone network, separate from data but I really doubt it will be cheaper.

Did you just copy and paste this rant from another thread cause im almost certain you posted this exact thing before

Irish Gunner · 28-07-2009 9:05am

ok debating over choosing this phone or the iphone. Things that are swaying me to this are the photo, radio and seemingly the phone coverage is better on this than an iphone. Also require internet and email

Have seen a few you tube comparrisons between the 2. Not to pushed on the applications as I know iphone has more

Have not seen the N97 yet so cannot compare the 2 myself. Anyone got any honest opinions. If this comparrision has already been done apologies so many threads not enough time to look:rolleyes:

sbhatia · 28-07-2009 9:20am

Irish Gunner wrote: »

ok debating over choosing this phone or the iphone. Things that are swaying me to this are the photo, radio and seemingly the phone coverage is better on this than an iphone. Also require internet and email

Have seen a few you tube comparrisons between the 2. Not to pushed on the applications as I know iphone has more

Have not seen the N97 yet so cannot compare the 2 myself. Anyone got any honest opinions. If this comparrision has already been done apologies so many threads not enough time to look:rolleyes:

All depends what you want from your phone.
I have both Iphone and N97 and truly N97 is a Real smartphone.
better camera, multitasking, bigger battery, Open to 3rd party application, Opera mini browser is just superb, Fm transmitter and few others.

Iphone is good has a nice UI and possible more apps but i hate the battery, no multitasking, No changeable battery, and not possiblity to install 3rd party browser etc.

But at the the end of day It's up to you what you want.

sbhatia · 28-07-2009 9:22am

Just received my 8gb Kingston memory card from mymemory.co.uk.
paid £13.99 including postage and 3 days delivery, ordered on friday. Not bad.
Now finally i can back up just incase

SoundWave · 28-07-2009 10:09am

anyone know the best place to get a 16gb microsd card for it? seem to be on memoryc for about 55ish... is that reasonable?

sbhatia · 28-07-2009 10:15am

SoundWave wrote: »

anyone know the best place to get a 16gb microsd card for it? seem to be on memoryc for about 55ish... is that reasonable?

try this link.
http://www.mymemory.co.uk/Micro-SDHC?&filter=16384#memFilter

also don't forget memoryc charge you postage €5.75. if you buy from above link Kingston 16gb would cost you around 42 euro including postage.

Irish Gunner · 28-07-2009 12:32pm

sbhatia wrote: »

All depends what you want from your phone.
I have both Iphone and N97 and truly N97 is a Real smartphone.
better camera, multitasking, bigger battery, Open to 3rd party application, Opera mini browser is just superb, Fm transmitter and few others.

Iphone is good has a nice UI and possible more apps but i hate the battery, no multitasking, No changeable battery, and not possiblity to install 3rd party browser etc.

But at the the end of day It's up to you what you want.

Now if I could just test one of these N97 phones I could make this choice all seems to be pointing towards August sometime when they come to Ireland but I want one now :mad:(throws toys from pram)

Its leaning towards the N97 alright

In Madrid and London soon so somebody has to have one over there

Thanks

Nonoperational · 28-07-2009 12:39pm

Out on 02 first week of August... from 379.99 on prepay!

sbhatia · 28-07-2009 12:42pm

Irish Gunner wrote: »

Now if I could just test one of these N97 phones I could make this choice all seems to be pointing towards August sometime when they come to Ireland but I want one now :mad:(throws toys from pram)

Its leaning towards the N97 alright

In Madrid and London soon so somebody has to have one over there

Thanks

Well now you can test.
http://www.forum.nokia.com/Technology_Topics/Application_Quality/Testing/Remote_Device_Access/

that lets you test and play with phone, just book a session and there you go.

and if you like it you can always grab it from Newry.

Splinter · 28-07-2009 12:58pm

gpf101 wrote: »

Out on 02 first week of August... from 379.99 on prepay!

got a source for this?

Irish Gunner · 28-07-2009 1:00pm

gpf101 wrote: »

Out on 02 first week of August... from 379.99 on prepay!

Where did you hear this ?

Any news on how much on Speak Easy

XY · 28-07-2009 1:19pm

Irish Gunner wrote: »

Where did you hear this ?

Any news on how much on Speak Easy

its on the O2 forum ... from 379.99 speakeasy
http://forums.o2online.ie/forums/showthread.php?t=4195&page=2

Moriarty · 28-07-2009 5:22pm

I wonder if it'll be locked down/apps removed in any way.. Decent prices by the sound of it though.

Davy · 28-07-2009 5:29pm

gpf101 wrote: »

Out on 02 first week of August... from 379.99 on prepay!

And €199 on bill

Cyrus · 28-07-2009 5:46pm

can they be unlocked yet?

thats where im buying mine if so :pac:

vibe666 · 28-07-2009 10:41pm

lots of websites claiming to be able to, but i wouldn't trust any of them personally. there seems to be a lot fo internet trickery promising that kind of thing recently that's just basically a con.

if you can find somewhere that claims to do it and accepts paypal then maybe give it a shot and if it doesn't work then it's easy enough to yank the payment, but i wouldn't be giving out credit card info to any of these places as they don't look on the up and up imho.

Davy · 28-07-2009 10:43pm

Cyrus wrote: »

can they be unlocked yet?

thats where im buying mine if so :pac:

Buy it simfree.....................................!

Cyrus · 28-07-2009 10:57pm

Davy wrote: »

Buy it simfree.....................................!

for 379 euro, hardly:)

Greentrees · 28-07-2009 11:24pm

Yeah worth it for sim free

Moriarty · 28-07-2009 11:33pm

Unless it's a crippled version that o2 release, I can't see how it would be worth buying it sim-free for possibly more than double the price if you didn't have plans to move network inside the next year. Most people don't move network.

Cyrus · 28-07-2009 11:52pm

Greentrees wrote: »

Yeah worth it for sim free

if it can be unlocked (which is likely given that e66, 5800 etc are) how is it worth it?

Nokia N97

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