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White Slavery - The Forgoten Irish

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    #62
    getz
    Registered Users Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭getz


    MarchDub wrote: »
    No, it's not just you....many of us stand beside you in that informed opinion. It was not policy to promote anything but wealth for the motherland. That they needed to build infrastructure and educate some natives to do so was a byproduct. The modern excuse for the horrendous polices that killed millions - literally - and enslaved just as many - is that "some good" came out of it all. The older excuse - that the natives were "inferior" peoples glad of a meal has worn out.

    So pull the other one...and dream on. European Imperialism was a self serving evil, pure and simple.
    as english imperialism was so bad and evil-they ruled over one third of the world-it seems strange that the so called ex british colonies and empire do not seem to look on their british passed as a evil thing [with the exception of the irish republic] and they all seem to want to keep with in the commonwealth.and hold on to their british heritage, unlike other countries empires. dutch/portuguese/french and spains


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    #63
    MarchDub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭MarchDub


    getz wrote: »
    as english imperialism was so bad and evil-they ruled over one third of the world-it seems strange that the so called ex british colonies and empire do not seem to look on their british passed as a evil thing [with the exception of the irish republic] and they all seem to want to keep with in the commonwealth.and hold on to their british heritage, unlike other countries empires. dutch/portuguese/french and spains

    You're wrong there...there are plenty of other "exceptions" i.e former possession that became states that decided to remain outside of the Commonwealth. Burma (a.k.a. Myanmar 1948), and Aden (1967) are former colonies that did not join the Commonwealth after independence following WWII. Also among the former British possessions which chose to never became members of the Commonwealth are Egypt, Iraq, Transjordan, Palestine (most of which became the state of Israel in 1948), Sudan, British Somalia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Oman, Qatar, and the United Arab Emerities.

    There's a pattern there - but I will leave it up to you to see it.


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    #64
    Balmed Out
    Registered Users Posts: 4,716 ✭✭✭Balmed Out


    the USA as well.
    Most stay as commonwealth for economic reasons not out of any sense of loyalty.


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    #65
    Snickers Man
    Registered Users Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    lazybhoy wrote: »
    Irish nationalist RC church propaganda, the Norman elite even put rules in place banning them from mixing with the Irish, the statutes of Kilkenny.

    Yeah. But like all "apartheid" like laws, they didn't really work did they?

    I mean, you're talking about a law which tried to force Frenchmen to keep their hands off Irish women. Talk about being doomed to failure!


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    #66
    jaqian
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    mayotom wrote: »
    In the 12 year period during and following the Confederation revolt, from 1641 to 1652, over 550,000 Irish were killed by the English and 300,000 were sold as slaves, as the Irish population of Ireland fell from 1,466,000 to 616,000.

    That figure surely cannot be right that Ireland's population was only 600,000 in the 1640s? Only two hundred years later in the famine our population was nearly 8,000,000! I'd be interested in seeing where you got the figures from.


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