John Terry - Hypocrite?

DSB

Apologies if this has been mentioned elsewhere, but if anyone has been watching Sky Sports News this morning they'll see Terry has been complaining about the Liverpool players surrounding the referee to get him his yellow card that puts him out of the second leg, first off one has to wonder how the man who pulls cards out of a referees hand and generally bullies referees on a regular basis has the right to be saying such things.

But secondly, given that the foul in question looked like a pretty clear yellow card, does the man really have the right to expect the opposition players not to appeal for justice?

Royale with Cheese

John Terry - Hypocrite?

Yes.

mirwillbeback

DSB wrote: »

Apologies if this has been mentioned elsewhere, but if anyone has been watching Sky Sports News this morning they'll see Terry has been complaining about the Liverpool players surrounding the referee to get him his yellow card that puts him out of the second leg, first off one has to wonder how the man who pulls cards out of a referees hand and generally bullies referees on a regular basis has the right to be saying such things.

But secondly, given that the foul in question looked like a pretty clear yellow card, does the man really have the right to expect the opposition players not to appeal for justice?

Surely there's a far shorter and more accurate word to desribe him ? Mine would begin with " c "

Doubs

I don't know what he's complaining about personally, gives him a clean slate for the semi's (not intended as a dig). That Barca defender got purposely booked for for the same reason.

Mitch Connor

John Terry is Chelsea's captain, for a start, so he has the right to confront the ref on issues - only the captian is supposed to do this (though I'm not sure if that counts in Europe) so he may have a point about players surrounding the ref.

As for the foul - it probably was a yellow, but i'd be annoyed about it too. He tried to go for the header, then tried to protect himself when he realised he wasn't going to get it. Reina also tried to protect himself, but with the advantage of being a keeper, he was in a far better position to do so. For me, both players went for the ball, both tried to protect themselves and Terry came off a lot worse form it.

However, that is football today, most of the time you aren't allowed anywhere near the keeper, they get far too much protection - even if collisions are the keepers fault they generally get the foul, so in a situation that could be even remotely argued as to being the attacking players fault, a yellow card is likely.

Also, Terry isn't the smartest - he recently said a goal should not have been ruled out for offside cause one of his legs was level...

Xavi6

mirwillbeback wrote: »

Surely there's a far shorter and more accurate word to desribe him ? Mine would begin with " c "

Captain?

Mitch Connor wrote: »

As for the foul - it probably was a yellow, but i'd be annoyed about it too. He tried to go for the header, then tried to protect himself when he realised he wasn't going to get it. Reina also tried to protect himself, but with the advantage of being a keeper, he was in a far better position to do so. For me, both players went for the ball, both tried to protect themselves and Terry came off a lot worse form it.

Agree with everything there except it shouldn't have resulted in a booking.

JerryHandbag

While I agree that its a bit hypocrital all right I thought the yellow was harsh, goalkeepers can be too well protected at times. But what about Rafael Marquez, clever clever boy

tony1kenobi

I thought it was a harsh booking but as someone pointed out it leaves him free to miss a penalty against Barca.

Mitch Connor

Xavi6 wrote: »

Captain?



Agree with everything there except it shouldn't have resulted in a booking.

In reality, a booking is harsh, but he put in a challenge on the keeper and made solid contact without getting the ball. It wasn't dirty or anything (imo) but refs in general don't like people putting in (even fair) challenges on the keeper so to get a yellow in europe for it is hardly surprising. I don't like it, but it is how it is, unfortunately.

enda1

DSB wrote: »

Does the man really have the right to expect the opposition players not to appeal for justice?

Yes. Of course.

Soccer is in a sorry state with the lack of respect for referees given by players and managers in general. A referee should never be hounded by players demanding a certain form of punishment they feel fits the crime - its histo decide.

bohsman

I thought Terry had every right to go for that ball, Reina did his best to go through Terry, landed on his feet, then when he saw Terry was injured he decided to have a lie down aswell.

K4t

If anyone, it should have been Rena who was carded. Reina went with his knees up while terry went purely with his head. Unfortunately, nowadays any contact at all with the goalie and it's a free out. They are protected too much imo.

deisedevil

Reina had the ball in hands before Terry came near him. Terry took a risk throwing himself at that ball, he had very little chance of getting to it first. Not sure it deserved a yellow though, wasn't exactly that dangerous.
The fact that he thought he wasn't going to get one was very funny though, he shook hands with Reina and went to run off thinking all was good, the look on his face was priceless.

_blank_

Xavi6 wrote: »

Captain?

Clue : The next letter is "u"

That_Guy

Of course he's a hypocrite. Remember at the start of the season all Premier League captains signed some sort of agreement for respecting officials?.


Doesn't look like he's been giving much respect to them during the course of the season.

_blank_

That_Guy wrote: »

Remember at the start of the season all Premier League captains signed some sort of agreement for respecting officials?

Could you please link to the story about this, thanks. It seems to have slipped my memory.

K4t

Des wrote: »

Clue : The next letter is "u"

Cute? Whatever floats your boat...

citytillidie

Yes.

Not only does he lead the Chelsea team to gather around the ref, but he was also not the one complaining about Hunt when he hit Cech in a 50/50 and last night he knew he had no chance of getting that ball before Renia.

Racing Flat

Hypocritical that he'd give out about the Liverpool players asking the ref to card him (telling tales on him) yet he proceeded to name the Liverpool players who did this (last night and in the past) in his interview (telling tales on them)...

Iang87

K4t wrote: »

If anyone, it should have been Rena who was carded. Reina went with his knees up while terry went purely with his head. Unfortunately, nowadays any contact at all with the goalie and it's a free out. They are protected too much imo.

keepers have to go in with their knees to try protect themselves, in terms of when the ball is high their ribs are exposed and want to avoid injury. As for the situation last night, not a yellow on against either and i don't particularly feel it was a free out either. just play on reina had the ball

monkey9

What's Terry mouthing off for? The tie is over, the 2nd leg is a perfect one to miss. He doesn't have to worry about missing the semi final now!!

Iang87

monkey9 wrote: »

What's Terry mouthing off for? The tie is over, the 2nd leg is a perfect one to miss. He doesn't have to worry about missing the semi final now!!

cos he's a proper footballer who loves to play the game. we could expect the same thing from carra if it happened him

citytillidie

Iang87 wrote: »

cos he's a proper footballer who loves to play the game. we could expect the same thing from carra if it happened him

Dont think i would hold Terry in that regard i think he is a thug.

That_Guy

Des wrote: »

Could you please link to the story about this, thanks. It seems to have slipped my memory.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3936274,00.html

Iang87

citytillidie wrote: »

Dont think i would hold Terry in that regard i think he is a thug.

he's not man he'd put his head into a fire if he thought it could be won. also he nearly got decapitated going for a ball against arsenal when most other players would pull out

_blank_

That_Guy wrote: »

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3936274,00.html

Doesn't say anything in that that anyone signed anything

redout

Terry and Lamps alwayd getting cards rescinded domestically. We even had a thread about it around the new year and how suspect the whole thing was. This time he wont get it rescinded as its Uefa call and they wont give a toss about him being England captain. I am glad he is out as Chelsea are usually worse without him. Is Carvalho back for the 2nd leg ?

Mgoraf

redout wrote: »

Terry and Lamps alwayd getting cards rescinded domestically. We even had a thread about it around the new year and how suspect the whole thing was. This time he wont get it rescinded as its Uefa call and they wont give a toss about him being England captain. I am glad he is out as Chelsea are usually worse without him. Is Carvalho back for the 2nd leg ?

He was on the bench last night so should be fit I think.

iregk

Only Terry could muster up a 2 page debate on what is a nothing situation. Lets me ask you this, why do you hate him? I mean really?

Is it because he gets in the refs face? Are we forgetting, Caragher, Gerard, Rooney, Neville, Keane etc...

All he has said was he was disappointed at the Liverpool players attempting to get him booked. Now when I was watching the match I saw Terry on the ground and 4 liverpool players around the ref giving it socks. Reina apparently said on the pitch it wasn't a card.

So i ask, whats the problem. Do you think all those pool players were discussing the works of Oscar Wilde with ref or is there the slimmest possibility that they were talking about the man on the ground?

redout

Crads are working in Chelsea's favour at the moment.

Terry to miss a nothing game.

Messi one booking away from suspension.

Highsider

Yes is the answer. This comes from a player that spits at opponents :rolleyes:

everdead.ie

Fairplay to the ref coming out defending his decision Terry gets away with an awful lot and at least someone is not afraid to call him on it.

thegen

K4t wrote: »

If anyone, it should have been Rena who was carded. Reina went with his knees up while terry went purely with his head. Unfortunately, nowadays any contact at all with the goalie and it's a free out. They are protected too much imo.

Have you been looking at a different incident. Eeina had the ball in hand and Terry used his shoulder. He did not attempt to play the ball. He went for the man. Stone Wall Yellow.

BTW i'm not a Pool supporter.

eddiehead

iregk wrote: »

Is it because he gets in the refs face? Are we forgetting, Caragher, Gerard, Rooney, Neville, Keane etc...

Yes, we absolutely are.

Terry is as much a hypocrite as every player or manager who can only see fouls on members of their team, everybody come's out with something like that from time to time. This thread serves no purpose other than letting some people air their grievances (yet again) with the Chelsea captain.

Bubs101

Virtually every footballer is some kind of hypocrite, J.T. is no different. Ferguson's talk about the refs is ridiculous, Rafa complaining about mind games when he tried to psyche out Drogba last year, Gerrard claiming to be Liverpool until he dies when a few years ago he had all but left. Wenger's not to bad but he throws almighty tantrums. Everyone does it, I'd expect no less.

J.T. is an honest good man for 22 and a half hours of the day, never seen anything recently to make me doubt that, but for those 90 minutes he does whatever it takes to win as he should. I'd expect no less

Xavi6

Agree with Bubs. Terry is a winner and does whatever it takes to get here.

I'd love him in any team I support.

Chardee MacDennis

iregk wrote: »

Only Terry could muster up a 2 page debate on what is a nothing situation. Lets me ask you this, why do you hate him? I mean really?

Is it because he gets in the refs face? Are we forgetting, Caragher, Gerard, Rooney, Neville, Keane etc...

All he has said was he was disappointed at the Liverpool players attempting to get him booked. Now when I was watching the match I saw Terry on the ground and 4 liverpool players around the ref giving it socks. Reina apparently said on the pitch it wasn't a card.

So i ask, whats the problem. Do you think all those pool players were discussing the works of Oscar Wilde with ref or is there the slimmest possibility that they were talking about the man on the ground?

ugh did you even read the OP? the point is he is one of the worst players for screaming at refs, and this morning he is giving out to the press about liverpool players doing it when i have often seen him run 50 yards to scream at the ref over a card or a decision...

iregk

BastardPrince wrote: »

ugh did you even read the OP? the point is he is one of the worst players for screaming at refs, and this morning he is giving out to the press about liverpool players doing it when i have often seen him run 50 yards to scream at the ref over a card or a decision...

Yes, and Stevie G says he doesn't dive. All players and managers are hypocrites. The fans us, we are worse than any of them. Liverpool fans giving out socks about Ronaldo and Drogba diving but its fine when Captain Stevie does it. We are all hypocrites.

Xavi, Bubs, eddiehead, spot on lads, exactly what I was eventually getting around to posting.

Chardee MacDennis

iregk wrote: »

Yes, and Stevie G says he doesn't dive. All players and managers are hypocrites. The fans us, we are worse than any of them. Liverpool fans giving out socks about Ronaldo and Drogba diving but its fine when Captain Stevie does it. We are all hypocrites.

Xavi, Bubs, eddiehead, spot on lads, exactly what I was eventually getting around to posting.

i understand that and all, your original post didnt seem to convey that...

K4t

iregk wrote: »

Only Terry could muster up a 2 page debate on what is a nothing situation.

40 posts per page ftw.

newballsplease

K4t wrote: »

If anyone, it should have been Rena who was carded. Reina went with his knees up while terry went purely with his head. Unfortunately, nowadays any contact at all with the goalie and it's a free out. They are protected too much imo.

worst comment ever.

Jazzy

hahahaha terry. it isnt nice is it?
anything bad that happens to john terry im in favour of. damn the no insulting rule on this forum

Soby

Never thought of it getting carried into the semis if he got booked in the 2nd leg.Guess thats good so.And that explains why the barca defender got his stupid yellow aswell..Its all clear now:D

pierrot

Bubs101 wrote: »

J.T. is an honest good man for 22 and a half hours of the day

Cheated on his wife 9 times (allegedly)