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Kev's Training Journal

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Kev M


    Some treadmill

    HS row
    40kgs x 20
    60kgs x 12
    80kgs x 10
    100kgs x 8
    110kgs x 8
    100kgs x 12

    Seated cable row
    plate60 x 12
    plate82.5 x 10
    plate97.5 x 8
    plate112.5 x 8
    plate97.5 x 12

    DB row
    25kgs x 8
    35kgs x 8
    52.5kgs x 8,8
    35kgs x 12

    Parallel Grip lat pulldowns
    plate52.5 x 12
    plate67.5 x 10
    plate82.5 x 8,8
    plate67.5 x 8,8

    Facepulls
    plate45 x 20,20,30

    Smith shrugs
    50kgs x 20,20,20

    Wide grip upright row
    20kgs x 12
    30kgs x 12,12,15


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Kev M


    Hardcore Bodybuilding

    Some treadmill

    HS lat pulldown
    40kgs x 50

    Conc. curls
    7.5kg x 12
    12.5kg x 12
    17.5kg x 12,10,8,8

    Cable Curls
    plate35 x 12
    plate50 x 12
    plate57.5 x 12
    plate65 x 10,10

    Hammer Bar curls
    20kgs x 15
    25kgs x 12
    30kgs x 12,12,15

    Preacher DB, supinating very slow negatives
    10kgs 3 x 12

    Crossbody hammers
    17.5kg x 12... dead

    Standing DB wrist curls
    22.5kg x 20

    CG pulldowns
    plate52.5 x 20
    plate67.5 x 15

    Kneeling Ab Pulldowns
    plate75 x 15
    plate82.5 x 15
    plate90 x 20

    Donkey Calves
    plate150 x 20
    plate225 (stack) x 15
    plate225 + 30kgs x 15,20

    Decline abs
    2 x 20




    Hello biceps... haven't seen you's in a while.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Kev M


    HS rows
    40kgs x 20,8
    70kgs x 12
    90kgs x 8
    110kgs x 8
    90kgs x 12

    Seated cable rows
    plate52.5 x 12
    plate75 x 12
    plate97.5 x 12,12

    DB rows
    42.5kg DB x 10,10,10

    Wide grip lat pulldowns
    plate45 x 12
    plate 60 x 12
    plate75 x 10,6

    Smith shrugs
    50kgs x 20,20,20

    Snatch grip deads
    60kgs 4 x 6




    Just another back assistance day, middle of exams now so won't be training again for another few days. No sleep ftw.
    Good session today, loving the smith shrugs, a guy showed me to do them a specific way, leaning forward slightly and doing a really short bb row contracting the rhomboids hard, then shrugging from there. It seems to work. Also did snatch grip deads IDIBISLDI, could be a great movement for the upper back, really felt even the light weight after shrugs, but problems they could pose id they'll be hard to grip without straps and the bar might cut my package off..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    Kev M wrote: »
    the bar might cut my package off..

    I laughed out loud.

    More of this IDIBISLDI stuff too :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Kev M


    Sweating alcohol


    Bench
    102kgs. 3x6

    Machine shoulder press
    Plate75. 4x10-12

    Db flies
    12.5s 3x12

    Tri press downs
    Plate50. 4x12

    OH tri ext
    Plate45. 2x15

    Dip machine
    Plate75x20
    Plate112.5x12
    Plate135 x 12


    Disgusting experience.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Kev M


    Some bike

    Adductors, quads, back warmup

    Squat (some pauses)
    22kgs x 12
    62kgs x 12
    82kgs x 8
    102kgs x 5
    122kgs x 3
    belt
    142kgs x 3,3,5

    Leg Press
    120kgs x 10
    150kgs x 10
    180kgs x 10
    210kgs x 10
    240kgs x 10
    270kgs x 10

    Leg Ext.
    plate50 x 10
    plate75 x 10,9
    drop
    plate60 x 9
    drop
    plate40 x ... good few

    HS hamcurls
    30kgs x 15
    40kgs x 12
    45kgs x 12,12,12

    Glute machine, for an ass like bricks
    plate60 x 12
    plate75 x 12
    plate90 x 12,12

    Lying hamcurls
    plate32.5 x 12
    plate40 x 12
    plate47.5 x 9
    plate40 x 10



    Squats were alright, never happy with form on em but whatever, slow negatives are the way forward for me on squats, I just find a better position at the bottom that way and hold my shape much better. I know to do maximal weights I should really try to go faster, but I feel that fcuks my shoulders/elbows etc. and tbh I've accepted the fact that I'll always be a crap squatter long ago, so progress with my slow technique will do just fine. The dude squatting with me was doing 220 for high reps like a JOKE... makes me wonder why i even bother!
    Just tried to kill my legs with everything else, slow negatives explosive positives seem to do the trick.
    Also, the bike is pretty much the most pointless thing you can do in the gym. Sitting there, pedaling away, burning minimal calories, how some people spend a whole workout doing it for an hour is beyond me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    i did 120kg for 1 on the Leg Press the other day and my head nearly exploded.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Kev M


    i did 120kg for 1 on the Leg Press the other day and my head nearly exploded.

    Ahh it's probably (definitely) not comparable though because the different machines dictate how heavy the weight is. But yeah the head wanted to pop alright!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    Kev M wrote: »
    Ahh it's probably (definitely) not comparable though because the different machines dictate how heavy the weight is. But yeah the head wanted to pop alright!

    Probably the same machine


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Kev M


    Some Xtrainer

    Back and Adductors warmup

    Parallel grip lat pulldowns
    plate52.5 x 12
    plate67.5 x 8
    plate82.5 x 8,8,8

    Deadlift
    72kgs x 10
    112kgs x 6
    152kgs x 3
    172kgs x 1,1
    192kgs x 1,1

    Seated Cable Row
    plate52.5 x 12
    plate75 x 12
    plate90 x 12
    plate105 x solid 10 dodgy 12
    plate90 x 12

    DB row, unsupported
    42.5kg DB x 10,10,12

    Rear delt machine
    plate25 x 12,12,12,20

    Smith shrugs
    50kgs x 15
    80kgs x 12,12
    50kgs x 15

    Lat pulldowns military chin up grip
    plate60 x 12,12,12,12

    Facepulls w/straightbar
    plate45 x 15,15,20



    Deads were alright, was just trying to move the bar as fast as possible, that's as heavy as I've gone without the belt I believe, and it makes me wonder how much if anything I really get out of the belt on these. Legs are in bits from workout two days ago.
    Abs, calves and bi's tomorrow. Ardcore.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Kev M


    Some xtrainer

    Kneeling Ab Pulldowns
    plate60 x 20
    plate75 x 20
    plate90 x 20,20,20

    Machine preacher curls (closer grip machine)
    plate30 x 12
    plate40 x 12
    plate50 x 12
    plate60 x 10,10

    RG EZ bar preachers
    20kgs 4 x 12 slow slow negatives

    BB curl
    30kgs 4 x 12

    Donkey calves
    plate90 x 15
    plate150 x 15
    plate225 (stack) x 15
    stack+50kgs x 20,20

    DB side bends
    17.5kg x 16
    25kg x 16
    32.5kg x 16

    One Arm BB curl
    22kgs x 8 right, 5+3 left, 8 right, 7+1 left.




    Good little sesh.
    The kneeling ab pulldown stuff is getting ridiculously easy, problem is more weight will be hard to get down and stay kneeling with because it'll lift me up. It's a better movement for me than the standing variation though, even with less weight.
    Arm stuff was grand, just went for volume because I figure I held onto enough heavy stuff yesterday. One arm BB curls IDIBISHDIAO, they weren't bad at all, balance was a bit off on the left side but was better on the 2nd set. For some reason I got the idea to do 2 bars at the same time, sort of crossed over one another, but then decided against it as there's only 4 bars and people could get pissed if I was curling with 2 of them :).
    Calves was the most intense thing of the day, last set fooking killed me seriously. Using good form here now too.. pretty slow all the way down and all the way up, made a bit of noise for the last few reps, the Katy Perry megamix just wasn't enough at the time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Kev M


    Some Xtrainer

    Adductors and back warmup

    Bench
    22kgs x 12
    62kgs x 8
    82kgs x 8
    92kgs x 3
    107kgs x 3,3,3,3,3,3 some paused

    Strict OH press, cleaned from floor
    22kgs x 12
    52kgs x 6,6
    62kgs x 6,6,6

    Slight Incline DB bench
    22.5s x 12
    30s x 12
    42.5s x 3 LOL WUT
    32.5s x 8

    Cable Crossovers
    plate20s x 16
    plate25s x 16
    plate30s x 14,14,12

    Tri pressdown
    15kgs x 12
    22.5kgs x 12
    30kgs x 12,12,12

    Flat DB flies
    17.5s x 12,10,6 and some slow negatives and static holds for several seconds before pressing back up and then 'flying' back down slow again.

    OH BB ext.
    22kgs x 12,12,12




    Not the best. Benching was alright, but getting way too concerned with form and making it look much harder than it should be as a result. Wrist was a bit sore so used the wraps for the last 3 sets. Started a Mendelson bench cycle of just doing 6x3 and adding 5kgs every week, but am thinking of stopping it already. I think just working up to one or two singles then one or two backdown high rep sets will be the plan.
    Havent done strict press in a while, it was fairly handy, as 62kg really should be.
    Slight incline db bench... this was no joke. 42s weren't happening. I'd be confident to throw the 50s up for close to 10 flat, or the 45s for 6-8 with a decent 45degree incline. Had the bench maybe only 2 pins up, and this made a huge difference to the dynamics of it. Definitely crippled the ego a small bit.
    Everything else was, i'm not gonna lie, pretty much a waste of time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Kev M


    Some bike

    Adductors warmup

    Squat (some paused)
    22kgs x 10
    52kgs x 10
    72kgs x 8
    92kgs x 6
    112kgs x 3
    122kgs x 3
    132kgs x 3
    belt
    142kgs x 1
    152kgs x 2,2
    142kgs x 4

    Rack Pull (from ~2inches below knee)
    72kgs x 6
    122kgs x 3
    172kgs x 1
    192kgs x 1,3
    172kgs x 5

    Leg Press (Black one)
    90kgs x 10
    140kgs x 10
    190kgs x 10
    220kgs x 10
    250kgs x 10
    280kgs x 10... probable PR on this machine

    Leg Ext.
    plate35 x 10
    plate50 x 10
    plate70 x 10,10,9rp1
    drop
    plate50 x spastic reps
    drop
    plate30 x spastic reps

    HS HamCurls
    20kgs x 12
    30kgs x 12
    40kgs x 12
    50kgs x 8rp4
    drop
    40kgs x 8rp4

    Lying Hamcurls
    plate25 x 12,12,12,12




    Squats were pretty bad, didn't really find form on them for some reason, mightn't have went wide enough with the stance, and also used the rack I haven't used in a long time which happens to have a bit of a hole in the floor.
    Rack pulls were fine, might switch to deficit pulls next week. Really concentrating on moving the bar with hams, glutes and hips, taking out a lot of leg drive, I figure that's what will carry over to pulls from the floor, because by the time the bar reaches that height leg drive is gone...
    Had to use the other leg press machine, which is definitely heavier and more challenging (A guy who reps 400 on the other leg press struggles with 350ish on this), so wasn't too optimistic, but was delighted to beat last weeks weight with the same reps. Didn't sacrifice form either, full rom all the way. Made a lot of noise though, no joke. Really want to get over 300 on the other machine now.
    The rest pumped my skinny little legs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Kev M


    Adductors and back warmup

    HS row
    60kgs x 12
    80kgs x 10
    100kgs x 10
    110kgs x 10
    120kgs x 10... PR territory but crappy form really
    100kgs x 12

    Seated Cable Row
    plate55 x 12
    plate77.5 x 12
    plate107.5 x 12... PR territory but again crappy form for the last few
    plate92.5 x 12,12

    Parallel grip pulldowns
    plate52.5 x 12
    plate75 x 8,8,8,8

    BB row
    50kgs 4 x 10 with stretching and static holds, for no reason in particular

    One arm BB curl
    20kg bar 4 x 10

    Conc. curls
    10kg DB 4 x 12

    Hammer curls
    12.5kg DBs 4 x 10

    Standing cable rear delts
    plate15s 3 x 12
    plate10s x 12 some static holds in all sets


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Kev M


    Some crosstrainer

    adductors and back warmup

    Bench
    22kgs x 12
    52kgs x 8,8
    72kgs x 6
    92kgs x 6
    102kgs x 3
    112kgs x 3
    122kgs x 1
    132kgs x 1
    102kgs x 9

    DB flies
    17.5kg DBs 4 x 10

    Incline Bench, paused
    22kgs x 12
    52kgs x 10
    62kgs x 8
    72kgs x 8
    62kgs x 10

    Tri pressdowns
    30kg 3 x 12

    Rolling DB extensions
    9kg DBs 3 x 12

    CG Incline bench
    22kgs x 12
    52kgs 3 x 6-8




    Had a nap and a crapload of food right before this, really wasn't feeling it at all, probably should have left it til tomorrow.
    Form wasn't there, was doing something strange where I'd nearly stop the bar a few inches from my chest on the way down, adjust it back half an inch or so, then bring it down to touch, but anyway 132 will do for today, hopefully add weight every week until a PR happens.
    Some big benchers throwing down tonight aswell which was both awesome and depressing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Kev M


    Deadlift
    72kgs x 10
    112kgs x 5
    152kgs x 3
    172kgs x good few singles
    152kgs x 3
    112kgs x 10

    Hack Squat
    30kgs 3 x 12

    Donkey calves
    plate105 x 15
    stack x 15
    stack + 40kgs x 15
    stack + 70kgs x 20




    Not much time today, or any time yesterday.
    Tried to deadlift like Misha, sitting right down behind the bar... I think I can now conclude that I am not built to deadlift like that. Back to Benni style next week minus ~300kg.
    Hack squat, going with the lowest foot position I can manage while getting atg to hit the quads as much as possible, suck at these so bad, even doing a feeler set with no weight on the machine I wouldn't say is easy.
    Donkey calves' power is coming on in leaps and bounds though lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Kev M


    HS rows
    80kgs 3 x 8

    Parallel grip lat pulldowns
    plate75 x 8
    plate90 2 x 8

    Strict press (cleaned from floor)
    62kgs x 6
    67kgs x 6,6

    One arm BB curl
    22kgs 4 x 10 each arm

    Hammer grip preachers
    25kgs x 12
    30kgs x 10,10,8

    Conc Curls
    12.5kg DB 3 sets to failure

    rear delt machine
    plate25 3 x 20



    My hand and wrist is in bits, somehow managed to hurt it leaning on a mattress of all things... Hopefully will be good to bench monday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    I know it's missing an "h" but everytime i see conc curls i imagine you in a corner curling one of these

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTn5S9Tj2PxLrkTVbb3472lWXpQJ91idvcM8rfah7dlDpImRnLMfA&t=1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,348 ✭✭✭the drifter


    Kev M wrote: »


    My hand and wrist is in bits, somehow managed to hurt it leaning on a mattress of all things... Hopefully will be good to bench monday.

    Is there anyone of us that isnt injured..


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Kev M


    CG bench, index about half inch from smooth w/ some pauses
    22kgs x 12
    52kgs x 12
    62kgs x 6
    72kgs x 6
    82kgs x 3
    92kgs x 3
    102kgs x 3
    112kgs x 1,4,4
    82kgs x 15

    PecDec
    plate35 4 x 15

    Incline Bench, medium grip about 3 inches inside rings w/ some pauses
    62kgs 4 x 8

    BB skullcrushers
    22kgs x 12
    32kgs x 12
    37kgs x 8,8

    V grip pressdowns
    plate30 x 20
    40 x 15
    45 x 15
    50 x 12,12,15

    Machine bench, closest grip possible
    plate60 x 10,10

    some planks

    some decline abs


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Kev M


    Adductors and back warmup

    Oly Squat, beltless
    70kgs 3 x 8
    90kgs x 6
    110kgs x 3,3,3
    130kgs x 1,1,1

    Leg Press (black machine)
    150kgs x 10
    180kgs x 10
    210kgs x 10
    240kgs x 10
    270kgs x 10
    300kgs x 10.. happy with that set

    Deadlift
    142kgs 6 or 7 fast triples





    Burying the oly squats right down. Pretty much nearly fell forward on every rep, weight shifting to my toes. Good fun.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Kev M


    Some crosstrainer

    Oly squat beltless
    22kgs x 12
    62kgs x 8,8
    82kgs x 8
    102kgs x 3
    122kgs x 3,3,3,3
    132kgs x 1,1,1
    102kgs x 6,6,6,6

    Bench
    72kgs x 10,10,10,10 fast

    Messed around with hang power snatches with just the bar.

    Attempted to OH snatch grip squat.

    Attempted to 'rack' the bar on my shoulders as in clean and jerk.

    Strict press, cleaned
    62kgs x 6,6,6




    Squats were a bit better, just gonna keep doing them every session or at least every other session for a while and see what happens.
    OH squats and racking the bar on front delts weren't happening. I have an absolute lack of flexibility. With the squats I can get down a few inches then the bar wants to fall forward. With the racking I honestly can't even get my hands back under the bar, like when I strict press the starting position is actually quite comfortable about 4 inches up off me ffs. I have a sudden want to learn weightlifting.

    Will look up some flexibility exercises, anybody knows any feel free to share! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    Get hold of an axle! Best of both worlds.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Kev M


    Get hold of an axle! Best of both worlds.

    Ahh sure might aswell just go all out and get a log :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    Kev M wrote: »
    Ahh sure might aswell just go all out and get a log :D

    I was going to make a terrible joke about how i'm posting in your log.

    IMO axle > log


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Kev M


    HS pulldown
    40kgs x 12
    40kgs x 12
    60kgs x 12
    80kgs x 12
    90kgs x 12,8

    Seated cable wide grip rows w/ wide lat pulldown bar
    plate52.5 x 12,12
    plate75 x 12,12

    Oly squat beltless
    20kgs x 12,12
    60kgs x 8
    80kgs x 6
    100kgs x 3
    120kgs x 1
    130kgs x 1,1
    135kgs x 1,1,1,1,1
    110kgs x 3,3,3,3,3

    Hang high pulls snatch grip
    20kgs x 15
    30kgs x 15
    40kgs x 15,15





    Pulldowns and wide grip rows: Explosive positive, hold the static, slow negatives for the beautiful v-taper. No momentum or swinging.
    Squats were good today, really held my shape better than the last few times, flexibility seems to have improved considerably just through doing the goddamn exercise. Was able to sit right down atg and keep the head and chest up. Will get some oly shoes which should help this more. Hopefully a guy in the gym will be able to get me the adidas ones fairly cheap.
    Spent some time trying to rack the bar again, such an absolute pain. No shoulder or wrist flexibility at all. Apparently even most of the worst cases can get it right within a few months of keeping at it so that's the plan.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Kev M


    Machine preachers
    plate30 x 12
    plate40 x 12
    plate50 x 12
    plate60 x 12
    plate70 x 8rp5

    One arm BB curl
    22kgs x 10,10,10

    Hammer conc. curls
    12.5kg DB's 3 x 10-12

    Oly squat beltless
    20kgs x 12
    60kgs x 8
    80kgs x 8
    100kgs x 3
    120kgs x 1
    130kgs x 1
    140kgs x 1,1,1
    115kgs x 3,3,3,3,3

    Lying hamcurls
    plate32.5 3 x 12

    Donkey calves
    plate172.5 x 12
    plate225 + 30kgs x 12
    plate225 + 80kgs x 12
    plate225 + 110kgs x decent 15 dodgy 20

    Some shoulder racking stretching under bar... it's pretty hopeless atm.




    Squats were alright, elbows and shoulders are feeling good, which I'll have to attribute 100% to high high bar placement on the traps. Gonna have to start throwing caution to the wind a bit and just bury these squats faster. I'm doing most reps slow and practically pausing at rock bottom because it's light enough to get away with, but on a few reps today I just dropped fast and the rebound was significant to say the least, shape didn't keep so well though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Kev M


    Bench
    22kgs x 12
    62kgs x 12
    82kgs x 8
    92kgs x 3
    102kgs x 3
    112kgs x 1
    122kgs x 1
    132kgs x 1

    CG bench
    132kgs x 1... maybe close grip PR, fairly sh!t anyway, flat backed and muscled it up with loose shoulders :)
    112kgs x 3
    102kgs x 8

    DB flies
    15s x 12,12,12,12

    Rolling DB ext.
    5s x 12
    10s x 12
    15s x 12,12

    Tri pressdowns
    22.5kgs x 20,20,20

    Facepulls
    light x 20,20,20





    *Time to moan now*... Just not motivated to bench these days. In fact, don't think I will again for a while. Reckon it's at a level where I could throw up 140 or close to it any day, but to move on towards 145-150ish would take a concentrated effort of hitting it several times a week and killing my shoulders/elbows for not much gain. Also, time to get mega bent here, the mental aspect of just wanting to do it isn't there now, and that's pretty much the battle lost before it's begun... Much more interested in bringing up this oly squat business.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Kev M


    Squat oly beltless
    22kgs x 12
    52kgs x 8
    72kgs x 8
    92kgs x 3
    102kgs x 3
    112kgs x 3
    122kgs x 1
    132kgs x 1
    142kgs x 1
    112kgs x 3,3,3,3,3

    Snatch grip deads
    62kgs x 3,3,3
    82kgs x 3,3
    102kgs x 3
    122kgs x 3,3,3




    Feel bo***xed today.
    Squatting is starting to come a bit more natural now. Wasn't particularly fast today though.
    Snatch grip deads, I've said it before, could castrate you if you're not careful.
    Also tried to do a full snatch...... LOL FML.. hitting that position at the bottom would take ALOT of work. Thankfully I had the foresight of using the rubber HS plates.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Kev M


    Machine Rows
    about 5 sets of 12 up to full stack

    45 degree hyper, rounding back
    2 x 12

    WG lat pulldowns
    up to plate82.5 x 10,10

    Paused beltless oly squats, ~2sec pauses
    22kgs x 6
    62kgs x 3
    82kgs x 1
    92kgs x 1
    102kgs x 1
    112kgs x 1
    122kgs x 1
    132kgs x 1,1,1
    112kgs x 3,3,3

    Pendlay type rows, wide grip,
    42kgs x 12,12,12



    Machine rows were actually pretty good, did them because my back's been at me a bit this week so thought this would be good to put blood in the area without being overly stressful. Hypers pumped the fcuk outta the erectors, was temporarily crippled.
    Squats were solid, not particularly fast, but happy with depth.
    Also, for the first time, managed to rack the bar to the front oly style, which damn nearly broke my wrists/ tore my forearms/ crushed my windpipe, but it showed serious progress because this seemed impossible literally last week. Something I'm concerned about, this might be hard to describe, is that that space where the bar sits between your throat and shoulders, is 'further back' on me than it appears on other lifters, or my neck is 'set deeper down on my upper chest', basically I'm trying to say my neck is in the way of where the bar wants to be. However my upper back is pretty tight, so if that loosens up then I might get my shoulders forward more. Perfect sense. Will keep practicing between sets.


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