Hybrid Bird Flu about to be released?

King Mob

nyarlothothep wrote: »

The timing has worked out.

But not any of the specifics and no specific date. Imagine that.

And theres the problem with him revealing the super secret plot.
You'd think it's the one thing he wouldn't say on TV.

nodolan

The bottom line here is that it is not in the interests of major pharmaceutical companies to actually make us well - they would go out of business. In fact many of these companies have subsidiary companies that produce drugs to counter the side effects of their parent company's products.

Trastuzumab (Herceptin) is a prime example - when the pharma company funding the research realised the knock on effects of a possible cure (not just a treatment) for breast cancer they pulled out (though they kept the rights) and Dr. Slamon pursued his research with private funding. The drug was eventually marketed by the same big pharma company who have priced it beyond the reach of most ordinary people. There's even a movie about it called Living Proof.

Is it really that big a stretch of the imagination to consider that a man who worked for and has a multi million dollar investment in a pharma company and who then goes on to have access to classified military research on bio weapons might actually share some of those secrets with the company he worked for?

Is it really beyond our wildest imagination that a giant pharma company desperate for profits might actually release a laboratory created chimera to which only it has a possible cure?

Is it impossible for us to conceive the thought that governments might actually have an agenda that involves killing, maiming or testing bio weapons on their own citizens? The Japanese did it on the Chinese in WWII, the Nazi's did it. Many US states and some european countries had eugenic programs up until recently, some still have the legal framework on their books.

Orwell wrote of these things both as a fictional exercise and in more serious sociological essays.

nyarlothothep

6th wrote: »

Ok so if he knew why then would he predict it rather than just annouce it and give people a chance to protect themselves?

If he really knew them he seems to just want to get people to think he's great rather than actually make a difference?

precisely

nyarlothothep

King Mob wrote: »

But not any of the specifics and no specific date. Imagine that.

And theres the problem with him revealing the super secret plot.
You'd think it's the one thing he wouldn't say on TV.

ah but he did. He said 5-6 months, which is specific enough and lo and behold look what we have now.

King Mob

nyarlothothep wrote: »

ah but he did. He said 5-6 months, which is specific enough and lo and behold look what we have now.

So all that planing and Joe Biden ****s up the one thing he was to do.
Don't mention the secret plot.

And 5-6 months is specific?

Wow, you're easily convinced.

nyarlothothep

King Mob wrote: »

So all that planing and Joe Biden ****s up the one thing he was to do.
Don't mention the secret plot.

And 5-6 months is specific?

Wow, you're easily convinced.

it was deliberate. He was implanting a suggestion.

King Mob

nyarlothothep wrote: »

it was deliberate. He was implanting a suggestion.

A suggestion for what?
And how do you know what his intention was?

mysterious

King Mob wrote: »

A suggestion for what?
And how do you know what his intention was?

KM its simple....


Suggestion, intentions and all has leads to one goal or agenda.

Leaders do it for all sorts of reason. more along the lines of just creating the reality they want. You dont have to know every detail.


Don't think Ive told you yet, try and be more aware of the suble realities of life. It will become more appearent as times goes on. Trust it.

6th

Mysterious, try cut back on the preaching please or post it in the spirituality forum.

A Primal Nut

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

On this topic at least that a bit rich as history has shown that in relation to influenza pandemics that you should not believe anything the government tells you.

you appear to though, why?

There is nothing concrete to suggest that this outbreak is abnormal yet, except of course that Mexican chap who died the day after meeting Obama, what would you put this down to?

Eh? Did Obama have the flu in his hand when he shook hands with the guy? I don't believe he would die that quickly either.

nyarlothothep

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/influenza/panflu/news/apr2209swine.html

paragraph 3:

"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) announced yesterday that two children in southern California fell ill in late March with what turned out to be swine flu infections. Both of the children recovered, and neither was hospitalized."

nodolan

The BBC (Radio 4 at 8:13am) has just reported that the Indonesian government has publicly stated that they believe the virus in Mexico is man-made.

Indonesian minister says swine flu could be man-made

Agence France-Presse | 04/28/2009 3:22 PM

JAKARTA - Indonesian Heath Minister Siti Fadilah Supari said Tuesday the deadly swine flu virus could have been man-made, as she urged calm over its spread around the world.

The controversial minister did not elaborate but in the past she has said Western governments could be making and spreading viruses in the developing world to boost pharmaceutical companies' profits.

"I'm not sure whether the virus was genetically engineered but it's a possibility," she told reporters at a press conference called to reassure the public over the government's response to the swine flu threat.

No cases of the disease have been reported in Indonesia, the country worst hit by the bird flu virus which has killed about 250 people worldwide since 2003.

Indonesian authorities have increased body temperature scanners at airports and banned imports of live pigs and pork products, amid World Health Organisation (WHO) warnings of a pandemic.

Supari, a cardiologist, also claimed that the H1N1 strain of swine flu, which is believed to have killed more than 150 people in Mexico, could not survive in tropical countries like Indonesia.

"We have to be alert at all times although swine flu in Indonesia is not a cause for panic," she said.

"H1N1 survives in countries with four seasons. The type A H1N1 virus hopefully won't be able to sustain itself once it enters the tropical climate of Indonesia," she added.

The virus has been found in 11 countries including Mexico, the United States and Spain, while several other countries from Colombia to New Zealand are investigating suspected cases.

Supari said the health ministry had prepared 100 hospitals to handle swine flu cases should the disease enter Indonesia.

The minister has refused since 2006 to share all but a handful of Indonesia's bird flu virus samples with WHO researchers, saying the system is being abused by rich countries to develop profitable vaccines which poor countries must buy.

as of 04/28/2009 3:22 PM

humanji

One minister, who is paranoid about rich countries making money off of vaccines said that there's a possibility that the virus was man made.

6th

humanji wrote: »

You should work for the Sun.

Attack the post not the poster.

nodolan

...advanced forms of biological warfare that can “target” specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool.

Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources For a New Century

A Report of the Project for the New American Century
September 2000

blackgold>>

This could be confirmed in ireland today.

meglome

nodolan wrote: »

Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources For a New Century

A Report of the Project for the New American Century
September 2000

It's amazing this document appears to prove about 15 different CT's. It's like a magic document or somesuch.

Run_to_da_hills

As swine flu continues to take its toll, claims surface that the deadly four-part flu virus could have been created for "bio-terror attacks."

Speaking at a conference to reassure the public over hers government's response to the swine flu threat, Indonesian Heath Minister Siti Fadilah Supari said Tuesday that the controversial virus could have been man-made.

She declined to elaborate on her claim but she had previously accused Western governments of making and spreading viruses in the developing world to boost pharmaceutical companies' profits, AFP reported

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=92794&sectionid=3510212

nodolan

US braces for 'bio-Katrina'

By Rik Myslewski in San Francisco

Posted in Security, 7th May 2009 18:54 GMT

President Obama has nominated a tough-talking bioterrorism expert to lead the primary research and development arm of the US Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

DHS Secretary Janet Napalitano announced Obama's choice of Dr. Tara O’Toole to be Under Secretary, Directorate for Science and Technology, calling O'Toole "an expert on environmental protection and biosecurity."
We don't know about the environmental protection part of that statement, but O'Toole has certainly made her opinions clear about bioterrorism.

In her most-recent position as founder, CEO, and director of the Center for Biosecurity at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center, O'Toole described her organization as follows: "We try to think through the nature of big disasters, with a particular emphasis on bioterrorism attacks and epidemics."

In a March interview (audio) with Federal News Radio, O'Toole was asked what she would tell President Obama if she had the chance. Her reply: "There is a possibility, a real possibility, that there could be the equivalent of a bio-Katrina on his watch."

And that wouldn't be pleasant, she continued: "There are very few things that could actually rock the United States, destabilize the country, and a big bioterrorist attack...or an epidemic such as a pandemic flu episode would be on that list of horrible things that could happen."

When asked about her opinion of someone who had suggested that a bioterrorist attack couldn't be carried out by an independent group, she said: "I would guess that that individual has no background in biology. The Defense Science Board said in 2000 that there are no technical barriers to small groups, unsupported by a nation-state, making and dispensing a biological weapon."

The belief that bioterror could only be state-sponsored, O'Toole said, "reflects not just that individual's lack of understanding of bioscience, but it also reflects the lack of bioscience backgrounds among people doing national security and high-level policy - which is a problem."

Apparently Obama believes that it's time for someone with a bioscience background to direct high-level national-security policy on bioterrorism.

The Under Secretary for the DHS's Directorate for Science and Technology chosen by former president George W. Bush, by the way, was a retired US Navy Rear Admiral, Jay Cohen, whose background included Ocean and Marine Engineering and Naval Architecture.

Nothing personal, Admiral Cohen, but we welcome the new bio-babe.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/07/janet_otoole/

meglome

Saw this today. Slightly off topic