Chelsea v Liverpool X - Match Thread 14/4/09

Chong

Mr Alan wrote: »

Rafa has lost the plot.

No he hasnt , its obvious, he has prioritised the league is all. You should be happy.

Rockee

Chong wrote: »

No he hasnt , its obvious, he has prioritised the league is all. You should be happy.

Was bout to post something similar.

Tusky

Not entirely happy with the inclusion of Lucas. Thought Rafa would have replaced Gerrard with a more attack minded player. Unfortunately, without Gerrard we have little hope.

shotamoose

redout wrote: »

Jesus even if you can get 30mins he should be on the bench but to be left out completly sounds insane.

Obviously he could be injured but all reports yesterday and this afternoon pointed to him playing.

Maybe 'all reports' weren't accurate but Rafa chose to leave Chelsea guessing. But no, you're probably right, Rafa must be insane.

tok9

Is tonight the night that Lucas shines? He's in his favoured role if i'm correct..
Whats he to score anytime?:D

Now we are massive underdogs!

monkey9

Tusky wrote: »

Not entirely happy with the inclusion of Lucas. Thought Rafa would have replaced Gerrard with a more attack minded player. Unfortunately, without Gerrard we have little hope.

Lucas is a better attacking player that he is a defensive one.

mike65

Thats true but I'd prefer Yossi in the hole and Riera left

Tusky

Tusky wrote: »

Not entirely happy with the inclusion of Lucas. Thought Rafa would have replaced Gerrard with a more attack minded player. Unfortunately, without Gerrard we have little hope.

UNLESS - Rafa is playing 4-3-3 ? In which case, the inclusion of Lucas makes sense.

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Reina

Arbeloa

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Carra

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Skrtel

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Aurelio

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Lucas----Mascherano---Alonso

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Kuyt

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Torres

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Yossi

Headshot

ivanovic to score anytime at 11-1

he couldnt could he :pac:

Mr Alan

Chong wrote: »

No he hasnt , its obvious, he has prioritised the league is all. You should be happy.

i was joking, obviously

Fromvert

Lucas is in his right position tonight, so after this game Lucas will be a god:D

Mr Alan

Fair play to Phil Thompson.

Tusky

monkey9 wrote: »

Lucas is a better attacking player that he is a defensive one.

Dont get me wrong, I like Lucas. Its just that hes not much of a goal threat. The only goal real threats in that team are Torres, Kuyt and Yossi.

Daysha

Lucas is 28/1 to score first tonight. I'll have some of that.

Edit: 35/1 on Betfair

Mr Alan

Mr Alan wrote: »

Fair play to Phil Thompson.

what he say?

monkey9

Tusky wrote: »

Dont get me wrong, I like Lucas. Its just not - hes not much of a goal threat. The only goal real threats in that team are Torres, Kuyt and Yossi.

Sky Sports News had the formation at 443.

Yeah, Lucas mightn't get the goals (although he has a shot on him alright) but he may be able to sneak some through balls for Torres to run onto.

That_Guy

Don't think Liverpool stand any chance tonight.

x in the city

Torres the only recognised striker, on a night pool need a bag load of goals, am i missing something here.?

Tusky

Tusky wrote: »

Dont get me wrong, I like Lucas. Its just not - hes not much of a goal threat. The only goal real threats in that team are Torres, Kuyt and Yossi.

Masherano?

redout

Tusky

monkey9 wrote: »

Sky Sports News had the formation at 443.

Yeah, Lucas mightn't get the goals (although he has a shot on him alright) but he may be able to sneak some through balls for Torres to run onto.

Yes but we need 3 goals. Surely the more goal scorers on the pitch the better ? I would have liked to see Riera or Babel on rather than Lucas in this situation.

Fromvert

I think Liverpool are going to start slowly with Benitez hoping to go in at halftime with a 0-1 and then go for it in the second half.

redout

LoL at Dunphy.

"Gerrard missing for Liverpool would be like Leinster missing Brian O'Driscoll and replacing him with me"

Eamo is a legend.

3 Dollar Bill

Drogba to kill this tie early on, without Gerrard I can't see where L'Pool will get their drive from. More of the same from the 1st leg.

Drogba to score in 90mins 6/4

Pigman III

I hope Chelsea learned their lesson from Bolton's easy-to-score few minutes at the weekend, Gerrard is a huge miss for Liverpool, same goes for Terry for Chelsea, but they can replace him will a good defender in Alex, whereas Lucas is Gerrards replacement, not a great sounding thing on Liverpools part. Liverpool's hopes should be resting on Torres and a Yossi supersub if needed.

I can't see the Liverpool winning this game than anymore than a goal, therefor, being knocked out, but I expect Chelsea to win by about 2 goals.

Karmafaerie

Unless we are playing the 4-3-3 then I can see Lucas having a big impact tonight.
This is the second time I can ever remember him playing in his natural position for us.
(And he scored the last time!)

It's very strange.

I can see Kuyt and Benni playing very far up the field, and Lucas just before Masch and Xabi.

No Gerrard is gutwrenching, but nothing new.

I want to see Lucas do well, just to shut Dunphy the fu€k up!
The guy is an insulting €ock sometimes!
His dismissive attitude towards Lucas is disgusting!

3 Dollar Bill

3 Dollar Bill wrote: »

Drogba to kill this tie early on, without Gerrard I can't see where L'Pool will get their drive from. More of the same from the 1st leg.

Drogba to score in 90mins 6/4

you obviously have'nt watched many Liverpool games this season :cool:

Boggles

WFT is that lineup?? :eek:

Rafa going for the draw??

Boggles

Boggles wrote: »

WFT is that lineup?? :eek:

Rafa going for the draw??

thats about as funny as a funeral

Podge2k7

x in the city wrote: »

Torres the only recognised striker, on a night pool need a bag load of goals, am i missing something here.?

Torres is all we need.!

3 Dollar Bill

rarnes1 wrote: »

you obviously have'nt watched many Liverpool games this season :cool:

Chelsea won't lie down like Blackburn did the weekend.

Boggles

rarnes1 wrote: »

thats about as funny as a funeral

Wasn't ment to be funny, I am one of the few who have backed Liverpool!

BELIEVE!!

monkey9

Karmafaerie wrote: »

Unless we are playing the 4-3-3 then I can see Lucas having a big impact tonight.
This is the second time I can ever remember him playing in his natural position for us.
(And he scored the last time!)

It's very strange.

I can see Kuyt and Benni playing very far up the field, and Lucas just before Masch and Xabi.

No Gerrard is gutwrenching, but nothing new.

I want to see Lucas do well, just to shut Dunphy the fu€k up!
The guy is an insulting €ock sometimes!
His dismissive attitude towards Lucas is disgusting!

Agree, would love to see Lucas show what he can do, further up the field where he is more natural.

mike65

I think this is great cos there is NO PRESSURE, going to enjoy the spectacle until its beyond Liverpool and then flick over for Bayern/Barca.

3 Dollar Bill

3 Dollar Bill wrote: »

Chelsea won't lie down like Blackburn did the weekend.

Its not the only game won without Gerrard this season

You should do your homework before posting

Boggles

Karmafaerie wrote: »

I want to see Lucas do well, just to shut Dunphy the fu€k up!
The guy is an insulting €ock sometimes!
His dismissive attitude towards Lucas is disgusting!

Wasn't Dunphy calling Essien a 20 million pound useless muscle man a couple of seasons ago?

The way he was talking tonight, you'd swear he was Kaka.

x in the city

91/1 pool to go thru on penos

get it on...

enner43

3 Dollar Bill wrote: »

Drogba to kill this tie early on, without Gerrard I can't see where L'Pool will get their drive from. More of the same from the 1st leg.

Drogba to score in 90mins 6/4

Doesnt really make a difference tho. Liverpool need to score 3 regardless. Its too much for them imo with the team selection.

Handsome Bob

Maybe it is obvious but I imagine it'll be like this;

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Reina

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Skrtel

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Carragher

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--Arbeloa

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Aurelio--

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Mascherano

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Lucas

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Alonso

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Benayoun

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Kuyt

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Torres

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Quint

Great argument from giles about zonal marking here! RTE should really upgrade their panel

Spud83

I DID NOT SEND FACTS TO RTE.

missingtime

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Maybe it is obvious but I imagine it'll be like this;

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Reina

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Skrtel

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Carragher

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Arbeloa

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Aurelio--

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Mascherano

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Lucas

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Alonso

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Benayoun

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Kuyt

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Torres

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fyp

Quint

"stats mean nothing bill"
So if you concede 100 goals a season with man marking, and 3 with zonal, the stats mean nothing! Giles is a plank!

Karmafaerie

Anyone watching on RTE?


Someone pointed out that only 6 of the goals Liverpool conceded this season were from set pieces.
4 corners.
2 frees.

So 28%.
The boys didn't know what to say.

Giles said "stats can prove anything" FFS!!!
Dunphy said it means nothing, wait a minute, that's way bellow the averrage that is around 40% but.........

Then Houghton jumped in and said that he used to play zonal year ago.

So what?!!

The best was Eamon though.
He starts saying it means nothing, corrects himself saying that it's well bellow the average, then just stopped.:p

When it goes back to giles he said if they had time they could prove it.
It's 6 goals Jonny, it'd take less than a minute to show them all!
But no, he just kept saying "you can prove anything with facts"!


Hillarious!

MementoMori

Quint wrote: »

Great argument from giles about zonal marking here! RTE should really upgrade their panel

Yup - The complete stupiditiy of the "statistics don't mean anything" quote, was great.

I always love when in an arguement that people whose case is shown to be wrong, fall back on the whole statistics don't mean a thing stance.

Here's another statistic - Goals conceeded by Livepool in the League 21, which is the same as Utd and one more than Chelsea. Yup zonal mark is at fault :rolleyes:

missingtime

Karmafaerie wrote: »

But no, he just kept saying "you can prove anything with facts"!

a taxi driver once said that to a friend of mine

3 Dollar Bill

rarnes1 wrote: »

Its not the only game won without Gerrard this season

You should do your homework before posting

We'll see who is right after the game, not having Gerrard on the bench to use as an impact sub is ludicrous.

Quint

Karmafaerie wrote: »

Anyone watching on RTE?


Someone pointed out that only 6 of the goals Liverpool conceded this season were from set pieces.
4 corners.
2 frees.

So 28%.
The boys didn't know what to say.

Giles said "stats can prove anything" FFS!!!
Dunphy said it means nothing, wait a minute, that's way bellow the averrage that is around 40% but.........

Then Houghton jumped in and said that he used to play zonal year ago.

So what?!!

The best was Eamon though.
He starts saying it means nothing, corrects himself saying that it's well bellow the average, then just stopped.:p

When it goes back to giles he said if they had time they could prove it.
It's 6 goals Jonny, it'd take less than a minute to show them all!
But no, he just kept saying "you can prove anything with facts"!


Hillarious!

I wanted to slap them! Did you see the goals they showed Torres scoring against blackburn? Man marking for his header didn't work too well!

MementoMori

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

I DID NOT SEND FACTS TO RTE.

Oh yes you did :P

Karmafaerie

MementoMori wrote: »

Yup - The complete stupiditiy of the "statistics don't mean anything" quote, was great.

I always love when in an arguement that people whose case is shown to be wrong, fall back on the whole statistics don't mean a thing stance.

Here's another statistic - Goals conceeded by Livepool in the League 21, which is the same as Utd and one more than Chelsea. Yup zonal mark is at fault :rolleyes:

And he said it about 3 times!