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wired vs wireless alarm system

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    #32
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    losing the plot more like.
    Does this guy actually install alarms?


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    #33
    oldhead
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭oldhead


    altor wrote: »
    whats this post all about then ? did you loose the plans..
    Altor, you are the lost one here, what has any of this got to do with plans


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    #34
    oldhead
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭oldhead


    koolkid wrote: »
    losing the plot more like.
    Does this guy actually install alarms?
    What are you trying to say?????????


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    #35
    altor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,715 ✭✭✭✭altor


    oldhead wrote: »
    Do you not have to change the batteries in a wireless system? I would def go for a wired system. Much more secure for starters!!!!!!!

    i think its funny how you can criticizes anyone giving there option here, you clearly dont know what your talking about.. have you ever installed an alarm ?

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    #36
    oldhead
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭oldhead


    altor wrote: »
    i think its funny how you can criticizes anyone giving there option here, you clearly dont know what your talking about.. have you ever installed an alarm ?
    Oh look another expert, i never criticized anyone,i was only giving my opinion, im not the one saying to listen to the "EXPERTS"


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    #37
    KoolKid
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    oldhead wrote: »
    What are you trying to say?????????
    I thought that was obvious. But I'll spell it out slowly for you

    Do... you...actually ...install .....alarms???
    oldhead wrote: »
    Oh look another expert, i never criticized anyone,i was only giving my opinion, im not the one saying to listen to the "EXPERTS"

    Are you looking for advice here or do you just think you know more than the professionals here.
    You dont know what you are talking about & you cant take advice from people who do.


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    #38
    altor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,715 ✭✭✭✭altor


    oldhead wrote: »
    Oh look another expert, i never criticized anyone,i was only giving my opinion, im not the one saying to listen to the "EXPERTS"

    i know you where given your opinion but so was i as an installer who installs alarms every day.. you said earlier about running cables correctly and neatly damaged cables would not be an issue. how do you know, can you back this up ?

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    #39
    steifanc
    Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭steifanc


    id go for wired any day.
    can a wireless alarm system be over come , yes , of course it can .
    do you really think if people can crack a 128 bit encrypted wireless network in 60 seconds the cant replicate a 10 bit intelligent signal .
    don't be naive, alto the probability of someone, that steals from houses having the desire or the intelligence to be able to do it are slim.
    wired alarms can be over come to ,
    bottom line is if someone really wants to get into your house they will ,an alarm is a good deterrent. dose the prospective burglar know what type of alarm you have !?


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    #40
    oldhead
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭oldhead


    koolkid wrote: »
    I thought that was obvious. But I'll spell it out slowly for you

    Do... you...actually ...install .....alarms???


    Are you looking for advice here or do you just think you know more than the professionals here.
    You dont know what you are talking about & you cant take advice from people who do.
    Such a smartass,all i can say is god help your customers, and your none stop, always right advice,


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    #41
    KoolKid
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    oldhead wrote: »
    Such a smartass,all i can say is god help your customers, and your none stop,
    It would seem you need spelling lessons also.
    oldhead wrote: »
    always right advice,
    Exactly. Thats the reason why I've done so well in this business for over 25 years:D


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    #42
    oldhead
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭oldhead


    steifanc wrote: »
    id go for wired any day.
    can a wireless alarm system be over come , yes , of course it can .
    do you really think if people can crack a 128 bit encrypted wireless network in 60 seconds the cant replicate a 10 bit intelligent signal .
    don't be naive, alto the probability of someone that steals from houses having the desire or the intelligence to be able to do it are slim.
    wired alarms can be over come to ,
    bottom line is if someone really wants to get into your house they will ,an alarm is a good deterrent. dose the prospective burglar know what type of alarm you have !?
    thank you, its nice to finally meet someone with common sense


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    #43
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    steifanc wrote: »
    id go for wired any day.
    can a wireless alarm system be over come , yes , of course it can .

    Can you please post some facts to back up that statement?


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    #44
    oldhead
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭oldhead


    koolkid wrote: »
    It would seem you need spelling lessons also.
    Exactly. Thats the reason why I've done so well in this business for over 25 years:D
    well it looks like you would want to go on a refresher course then if you are that long in business, get up to date with todays techology.


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    #45
    altor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,715 ✭✭✭✭altor


    oldhead wrote: »
    thank you, its nice to finally meet someone with common sense

    how could he be wrong.. he said both the wired and wirefree could be broken into if a bugler wanted to..

    www.altor.ie



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    #46
    oldhead
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭oldhead


    Careful there Steifanc, you are dealing there with so called "EXPERTS" hahahahahah


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    #47
    steifanc
    Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭steifanc


    koolkid wrote: »
    Can you please post some facts to back up that statement?

    what facts would that be , that a bit encrypted network cant be replicated ?
    all networks follow an ISO model and stack protocols in the same way ,
    its really not that hard if you know what to look for,


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    #48
    KoolKid
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    oldhead wrote: »
    well it looks like you would want to go on a refresher course then if you are that long in business, get up to date with todays techology.

    Can you explain??
    You are not making sense here.
    Wireless is the latest technology. I thought it was you who had a problem using this technology.
    Have I missed something???:confused::p


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    #49
    oldhead
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭oldhead


    altor wrote: »
    how could he be wrong.. he said both the wired and wirefree could be broken into if a bugler wanted to..
    he stated that a wireless system can be overcome, try and keep up there altor


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    #50
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    steifanc wrote: »
    what facts would that be , that a bit encrypted network cant be replicated ?
    all networks follow an ISO model and stack protocols in the same way ,
    its really not that hard if you know what to look for,
    But yet it doesnt happen..
    Any facts & figures? No?


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    #51
    altor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,715 ✭✭✭✭altor


    thats not it oldhead.. if you give an opinion, at lease be able to back it up

    www.altor.ie



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    #52
    steifanc
    Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭steifanc


    oldhead wrote: »
    Careful there Steifanc, you are dealing there with so called "EXPERTS" hahahahahah

    i have no dough that they are "experts" I'm not trying to relieve them of there expertise,
    I'm only stating the fact that wireless networks can be overcome,
    I'm sure a expert alarm installer doesn't know the logic behind data encryption or transmission .


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    #53
    altor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,715 ✭✭✭✭altor


    oldhead wrote: »
    he stated that a wireless system can be overcome, try and keep up there altor

    read it again oldhead...

    www.altor.ie



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    #54
    oldhead
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭oldhead


    koolkid wrote: »
    But yet it doesnt happen..
    Any facts & figures? No?
    You dont know that it doesnt happen,


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    #55
    KoolKid
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    I know if it did I would know about it.
    Still no facts or figures


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    #56
    oldhead
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭oldhead


    altor wrote: »
    read it again oldhead...
    i could'nt be arsed. my point from the begininng was that wireless systems can be over come, and ye said that they couldnt, dont be afraid of new techology


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    #57
    fred funk }{
    Registered Users Posts: 6,827 ✭✭✭fred funk }{


    Lads enough of the handbags

    Both wireless and wired have their pro's and cons. I use the Aritech wireless stuff and I am experiencing more and more problems with other radio devices interfering with the transmissions lately. Portable phones operate on the same frequency (433 Mhz) as their equipment and more stuff such as wireless door bells and domestic video senders can cause problems too.

    I would go wired if it was possible for a number of reasons, the sensors are much smaller and tidier, proper wireless equipment is expensive and its also getting harder and harder to compete with Eircom. A good Engineer can normally wire a house very neatly and you would be surprised where and how cables can be hidden.

    Its not always possible to wire an alarm and thats where the wireless comes in, no mess drilling the house and its installed very quickly too.

    The new HKC wireless stuff will operated at a much high frequency, well out of range of the unwanted transmissions and I hear Aritechs new Panel will eventually operate at that frequency too so the wireless stuff will be much more problem free in the near future.


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    #58
    oldhead
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭oldhead


    koolkid wrote: »
    I know if it did I would know about it.
    Still no facts or figures
    Oh so you have accessto every alarm system in The World do you


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    #59
    oldhead
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭oldhead


    fred funk }{ wrote: »
    Lads enough of the handbags

    Both wireless and wired have their pro's and cons. I use the Aritech wireless stuff and I am experiencing more and more problems with other radio devices interfering with the transmissions lately. Portable phones operate on the same frequency (433 Mhz) as their equipment and more stuff such as wireless door bells and domestic video senders can cause problems too.

    I would go wired if it was possible for a number of reasons, the sensors are much smaller and tidier, proper wireless equipment is expensive and its also getting harder and harder to compete with Eircom. A good Engineer can normally wire a house very neatly and you would be surprised where and how cables can be hidden.

    Its not always possible to wire an alarm and thats where the wireless comes in, no mess drilling the house and its installed very quickly too.

    The new HKC wireless stuff will operated at a much high frequency, well out of range of the unwanted transmissions and I hear Aritechs new Panel will eventually operate at that frequency too so the wireless stuff will be much more problem free in the near future.
    Cheers fred


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    #60
    KoolKid
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    oldhead wrote: »
    dont be afraid of new techology
    You dont want to use new technology yet you post not to be afraid of it?? Do you feel you are making sense here??


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    #61
    oldhead
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭oldhead


    steifanc wrote: »
    i have no dough that they are "experts" I'm not trying to relieve them of there expertise,
    I'm only stating the fact that wireless networks can be overcome,
    I'm sure a expert alarm installer doesn't know the logic behind data encryption or transmission .
    im shocked that they dont, they are "experts"


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