Current irish natural lifting records?

g'em

Roper wrote: »

Hanley and G'em hold world records right?

I used to, they got broken last year.

It's a funny thing though, although the IDFPA is still very young and it's true that some 'records' are broken purely because not many people lifted in the class beforehand, but a lot of Irish lifters would still very much hold their own in International competitions.

It's totally understandable to by cynical about records held by a small country's federation, but that doesn't necessarily mean the lifts aren't good in the grand scheme of things.

Roper

I'm not trying to be cynical, at least not intentionally cynical, in fact I think my cynicism is well and truly part of my nature. I just keep my eyebrow raised whenever I hear of records being set by anyone.

I'm just trying to put things into perspective. If I hear someone is a world record holder, I want to know how big a pool he's swimming in. To give you a quick example, I have a bronze medal in the World Taekwondo Championships which I don't take very seriously as everyone bar one German guy I fought to get it was Irish . I also have a silver from yet another "World Championships" sitting somewhere in my mother's house.

However, my respect to anyone who competes and puts it on the line. The size of the competitor pool is obviously important, but you can only beat what's put in front of you.

g'em

Roper wrote: »

However, my respect to anyone who competes and puts it on the line. The size of the competitor pool is obviously important, but you can only beat what's put in front of you.

Well that's it really - it takes some balls (proverbial or otherwise :pac:) to get up in front of a room/ hall/ stadium full of people and compete so kudos needs to be given for that off the bat. I've given up giving a flying fart what people think of my 'records', at the end of the day they were big lifts that not many women would be able to achieve and they were a result of a lot of hard work so that's enough for me.

Having said that, I've set National Records for both my lifts at both regional weightlifting competitions I've done but seeings how they're only about 50% of what the current WR are for my weight class they're not something I'm bragging about too often

kevpants

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Whats the deal with the drug testing? Do they just test you during the event?

They usually wait until you've re-racked the weight

mrOxymethalone

Hanley wrote: »

Just cos you don't have a spotter doesn't mean you can't bench. I've needed a spot on probably 2 benches in the last 4 or 5 months like!

you must be training real hard then

g'em

mrOxymethalone wrote: »

you must be training real hard then

There's lots of witty comebacks I could make to this given your 'interesting' choice of username (you might want to read the forum Charter to familiarise yourself with the rules regarding steroid discussion btw...) but do as I say and not as I do and whatnot. Less of the jibes s’il vous plaît, mercy buckets and grassy arses.

Hanley

mrOxymethalone wrote: »

you must be training real hard then

You don't wanna train too hard dude. You'd only end up over training like! It's really common ya know?




Back on topic, as well as a minimum of 10% of lifters at meets, the IDFPA do random drug tests as well, usually 2 or 3 a year as far as I know.

the drifter

0 notice tests at that...

AlphaMale 3OO

Roper wrote: »

I'm not trying to be cynical, at least not intentionally cynical, in fact I think my cynicism is well and truly part of my nature. I just keep my eyebrow raised whenever I hear of records being set by anyone.

I'm just trying to put things into perspective. If I hear someone is a world record holder, I want to know how big a pool he's swimming in. To give you a quick example, I have a bronze medal in the World Taekwondo Championships which I don't take very seriously as everyone bar one German guy I fought to get it was Irish . I also have a silver from yet another "World Championships" sitting somewhere in my mother's house.

However, my respect to anyone who competes and puts it on the line. The size of the competitor pool is obviously important, but you can only beat what's put in front of you.

How fragmented are the federations? I know a guy who if he is not winning world championships, is training guys to win them but I see no recognition anywhere and this always raised a question mark with me. He's a kickboxer of 40+ years of age but at this rate Dana White would have been knocking on his door long ago. How come he's not? Is it for the reasons you have raised? Just curious.

JMCD

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

im going for 240kg in the next couple of weeks, i started at 160kg 8 weeks ago. ive been training with a double overhand grip and no belt. 5by5 mostly but last week or 2 ive bein doin singles.

i just turned 26, i lift in rawcondition and im at 128kg bw. it was either there or hercules but im moving close to portobello so that seemed the best option.

all i do is deadlift,squat,bench,overhead press rippetoe style, with some inverted rows thrown in when i feel like it. ive started doing one armed clean and press with a barbell. 3 days a week, 2 diff workouts

i started squatting back in jan. ive fixed my bench, i had a habit of following the bar with my eyes and i never squeezed my shoulder blades together or planted my feet on the ground. also im making sure to hold my breath as i lift.



i dont use any protein powder, just eggs,milk,cottage cheese and beef, sometimes tuna. my intake is around 120-180g protein a day, i dont count calories. never did any juice in the past, not even legal prohormone stuff. i did waste money on alot of useless **** when i was alot younger and doin bodybuilding type training but i learned an expensive lesson.

Are you the big guy that wears the sweat band?

If so your form sucks! Dont think the move you do as the deadlift would qualify as a deadlift, in the power lifting world.

kumate_champ07

irish drug free deadlift records for <125kg <145kg 145kg+
290,270,230

im at 130, maybe it would be easier to become a fat ass and i could beat the 230 record instead of 290!

Hanley

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

irish drug free deadlift records for <125kg <145kg 145kg+
290,270,230

im at 130, maybe it would be easier to become a fat ass and i could beat the 230 record instead of 290!

Record hunter so, yeah?

Edit: Look further down the list. 320kg-ish was pulled by a 100kg junior last year too. Beat that.

kumate_champ07

JMCD wrote: »

Are you the big guy that wears the sweat band?

If so your form sucks! Dont think the move you do as the deadlift would qualify as a deadlift, in the power lifting world.

what form? im trying out diff methods. are u talking about a failed lift?
i was adjusting hip drive my last workout but i had them too open, didnt have my back as straight during the lifts as id have liked. in deadlift powerlifting as far as i know form doesnt matter as long as u get the bar up fully and lockout.

kumate_champ07

Hanley wrote: »

Record hunter so, yeah?

Edit: Look further down the list. 320kg-ish was pulled by a 100kg junior last year too. Beat that.

im joking, i dont want to get any heavier

Malteaser!

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

in deadlift powerlifting as far as i know form doesnt matter as long as u get the bar up fully and lockout.

That's incorrect. You're not allowed to hitch the bar up and there has to be an even lockout.

Hanley

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

what form? im trying out diff methods. are u talking about a failed lift?
i was adjusting hip drive my last workout but i had them too open, didnt have my back as straight during the lifts as id have liked. in deadlift powerlifting as far as i know form doesnt matter as long as u get the bar up fully and lockout.

Once you get the bar from floor to lockout without any hitching or sh1t like that it's ok.

But if you're deadlifting like this, no games - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVVz3Yeohgs

kumate_champ07

Malteaser! wrote: »

That's incorrect. You're not allowed to hitch the bar up and there has to be an even lockout.

hitch?

kumate_champ07

Hanley wrote: »

Once you get the bar from floor to lockout without any hitching or sh1t like that it's ok.

But if you're deadlifting like this, no games - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVVz3Yeohgs

i see, thats what i did the other day but i couldnt get it up any further, i completed about 80% of the lift. but i dont normaly do that anyway

im only new at deadlifting, its not like im gonna enter a comp next month, im still learning the movement and ive alot more work to do but ive got fire in my belly

brianthebard

Hanley wrote: »

Once you get the bar from floor to lockout without any hitching or sh1t like that it's ok.

But if you're deadlifting like this, no games - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVVz3Yeohgs

lol comments on that vid are fu.cked up.

haha first of all, this was an awesome lift, stop being a jealous hater. Second of all, why don't you go look at his 905 deadlift without a suit. You will never be able to pull that in your dreams. Second of all, 1981druss, I would slit your ****ing throat and **** down your neck. I'm not remotely close to being a hick, you're just another idiot who we should have never brought over here on the ships to begin with. Go back to Africa where you can act like the animal that you are.

dang.

kevpants

Even though there are sets of records it's not a record driven sport kumate. Be sure to get into it for the right reasons because there will always be someone stronger. The biggest rounds of applause at these meets aren't for the records or biggest lifts but for the people who clearly give it all they have in pursuit of their own goals. That's what it's about.

You're welcome aboard if you do decide to compete. It's great to see powerlifting spreading and getting more popular and it's well represented here on the countries biggest fitness forum.

kumate_champ07

kevpants wrote: »

Even though there are sets of records it's not a record driven sport kumate. Be sure to get into it for the right reasons because there will always be someone stronger. The biggest rounds of applause at these meets aren't for the records or biggest lifts but for the people who clearly give it all they have in pursuit of their own goals. That's what it's about.

You're welcome aboard if you do decide to compete. It's great to see powerlifting spreading and getting more popular and it's well represented here on the countries biggest fitness forum.

i love lifting. i always look forward to a workout. ive lifted on and off since i was 16, 26now. mostly just because i like to lift, but at the start because i was very skinny(165lbs at 6ft 3).
but now ive decided to keep a proper journal and have a better plan, i want to get much stronger. getting past 290kg is just a goal. but right now im trying to get past 240kg. i took a year off but now im back and focused. it is hard training sometimes with the meds im on, lack of energy fuks up my squat routine, but ill be off some of it later in the year. ill figure out when to compete when i check my progress during the summer.
strongman is something else id be interested in, prob more interested in that than powerlifting. i just want to lift heavy ****

jayoo

Ok now im going to go slightly off topic here, mainly because the people who are commenting on this post are the ones whose opinions i want:D

Who here actually trains legs to failure i mean failure at squats most surely mean leaving the bar on the safties as in going down giving it your all but failing.

i always manage to get the last rep up, but then again i have decided that its gonna be the last rep even before i do it. Could this lack of completly fecking your legs be the reson that they grow so much??

ok back to the topic, am... boobs

kevpants

jayoo wrote: »

Who here actually trains legs to failure i mean failure at squats most surely mean leaving the bar on the safties as in going down giving it your all but failing.

Never. There's absolutely no need to train to failure. Even leaving a rep you are 90% sure you'll get in the bag is a good idea IMO.

crotalus667

jayoo wrote: »

Who here actually trains legs to failure:

that would be mainly BB's training for size, training for power lifting is different it’s better to leave at least 1rep before failure (it’s a much lower rep range as well)



Ps

Hanley (or other's) when you say hitching are you referring to the holding it on the front of his legs or the swaying motion ??

Malteaser!

crotalus667 wrote: »

Hanley (or other's) when you say hitching are you referring to the holding it on the front of his legs or the swaying motion ??

youtube 'deadlift hitch'/'hitching deadlift' or something like that and you'll get hundreds of videos.

Here's the first two I came across, both demonstrate what it means:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Cbw-quaT6k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFJzvajQYSo

It's basically when there isn't a clean motion in the pull. The bar often stops half way through the pull and the lifter sort of rides the weight up their legs the rest of the way.

crotalus667

Malteaser! wrote: »

It's basically when there isn't a clean motion in the pull. The bar often stops half way through the pull and the lifter sort of rides the weight up their legs the rest of the way.

Thanks for clearing that up Malteaser:D