Media making irish resession worse?

Milkey Bar Kid

Do you think the media is making this resession worse for us all by dragging the country through the mud ?

galwayrush

No,the Government dragged us down, now they are hitting us with the bill for bailing them and their once rich cronies out.
The Media didn't cause any of it.

gurramok

Milkey Bar Kid wrote: »

Do you think the media is making this resession worse for us all by dragging the country through the mud ?

How? Please explain.

Saibh

Milkey Bar Kid wrote: »

Do you think the media is making this resession worse for us all by dragging the country through the mud ?

How can they? They don't govern the country

Milkey Bar Kid

I mean that your turn on the tv and its the resession. Turn on the radio its the resession . get a newspaper its the resession.resession resession resession resession thats all i hear

Aodan83

I think the OP means that in the same way fear mongering, or "embellishing" the truth, can cause widespread panic. But nio, the media are not making it any worse. maybe if you read the tabloids, but for the most part they're pretty accurate.

Outkast_IRE

Media is making it a bit worse mostly due to the fact that any time of the day you hear one economist or the other depressing us , at this stage i change the channel as soon as they start recession talk. Its draggin people down and the sooner we stop listening to it the better for all our sakes

Milkey Bar Kid

Dont be surprized if we get a new channel Resession TV

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dr.bollocko

Is it the heads of the banks or the media you're after now?
Ha?

KnifeWRENCH

Meh - this recession is kind of a big deal. What do you expect the media to do?
"World finances ok, nothing to worry about" won't sell many papers.

Milkey Bar Kid

I dont need to reminded every 5 min that the country is in the sh*t. Im lucky I still have a job (just got promoted) and my rent has got cheaper by €100 a month . and im gutted that jobs are going every day but wereever i go the topic is recession. its doing my head in now.

dr.bollocko

Milkey Bar Kid wrote: »

I dont need to reminded every 5 min that the country is in the sh*t. Im lucky I still have a job (just got promoted) and my rent has got cheaper by €100 a month . and im gutted that jobs are going every day but wereever i go the topic is recession. its doing my head in now.

So why did you start the threads? Do you think that it might be a self perpetuating thing?

Milkey Bar Kid

the heads of the banks should be in jail

Ostrom

Of course - it still comes down to confidence

Dudess

The non stop gloom is not good for the country's morale certainly.

Milkey Bar Kid wrote: »

I dont need to reminded every 5 min that the country is in the sh*t. Im lucky I still have a job (just got promoted) and my rent has got cheaper by €100 a month

Indeed you certainly don't need to be reminded... :rolleyes:

Milkey Bar Kid

because its on my mind all day . Out of sight .Out of mind is not working at the moment

Terry

Milkey Bar Kid wrote: »

the heads of the banks should be in jail

You're strong and tough. You'll get through it.

mikemac

It's run on over-confidence when times are good and fear when times are bad.

Ignore both aspects, find the real answer somewhere in the middle and you won't be far wrong.

Calling us the 2nd richest country around was wrong but at the same we can recover from the current position and things aren't so bad.

dr.bollocko

mikemac wrote: »

It's run on over-confidence when times are good and fear when times are bad.

Ignore both aspects, find the real answer somewhere in the middle and you won't be far wrong.

Calling us the 2nd richest country around was wrong but at the same we can recover from the current position and things aren't so bad.

It helps if you think of world markets as small children. In the Celtic tiger era it was play time and some over exhuberant parent laid on too much domino's pizza and coca cola. Now it's dark outside and the door is creaking strangely the kids are crying.

Insect Overlord

Wasn't there a thread like this moved to Conspiracy Theories recently?

I could well be wrong.

Dudess' post sums it up really.

tolosenc

The recession is a mind set. If they came out wit some bogus statistics tomorrow and said that everything was fine again, and that we could all start spending again, I'd imagine we would.

A lot of people are just reactionary.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Of course they are. They are making it a lot worse... By publicising the problems and whatnot, they put fear in people. People start saving and stop spending, no spending = making things even worse. Did they directly effect the country? Did they cause the problems? Nope, they did contribute to them, however small that contribution may have been.

wylo

OP, yes the media is certainly not helping, I think theyre starting to learn now.
I think politicians need to start talking more positively too. You need people to spend for a modern capalist economy to work, go on holidays, take out loans, buy a car, go out for dinner, buy that couch you wanted, buy a computer, buy a house (there I said), buy new clothes,

This creates jobs, kicks off other supplier industries, kicks off the transport industry, gets money moving, generates loads of tax, this means Lenihan doesnt have to create levys that piss people off.

Our country is like a good car whose battery was left run out because someone left the lights on all night. Once you push start her, the engine gets running and charges up the battery again, and the car is running as new!!

NOW GET SPENDING,







Oh right I forgot no-one has jobs

Milkey Bar Kid

I would go and spend my money tomorrow but the news tells me i could lose my job tomorrow and instead of going to the local shop that hasn't seen a customer in days im going to hide my money under the bed incase i have to buy my plane ticket out of here

dr.bollocko

An File wrote: »

Wasn't there a thread like this moved to Conspiracy Theories recently?

I could well be wrong.

Dudess' post sums it up really.

:eek:
NO!
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gurramok

Yes, the media do go on the wild side with bad news to sell papers but the truth of whats happening should not be overloked and we have a right to know.

I don't remember any threads from 2002-2006 bashing the media for encouraging everyone to binge on credit fuelled debt?

Milkey Bar Kid

I know people who admit they had crap credit rating when they got the loans and theses are checked by the banks . If a chancer asks for a loan and gets it then its not his fault its the banks fault

hideous ape

If you are bankrupt and the media report that you are bankrupt does that make you more bankrupt??? Don't think so!

The entire world is in a sticky patch that just happened to coincide with our economy bouncing back into reality...no harm done.

As Einstein, Beethoven, Jesus or one of the other Beatles said..."Nature has a way of balancing **** out".

Dudess

obl wrote: »

The recession is a mind set.

No it isn't.

If they came out wit some bogus statistics tomorrow and said that everything was fine again, and that we could all start spending again, I'd imagine we would.

Those of us who still have jobs.

A lot of people are just reactionary.

And unemployed.

A lot of people are in denial, or lucky enough to still have a job and not empathetic to the many who don't.

I agree, a lack of consumer spending will only help perpetuate the problem, but that's an effect rather than a cause. What's being reported is the truth, and it's news too - even if it's not news that's nice to hear.

brennaldo

the media isnt to blame, the poxy govenment is, bunch of idiots running the country.

joey54

Hear no recession, see no recession, feel no recession!

Maybe they should ban any reports on recession related topics!

Maybe this thread should go

WoollyRedHat

Milkey Bar Kid wrote: »

I mean that your turn on the tv and its the resession. Turn on the radio its the resession . get a newspaper its the resession.resession resession resession resession thats all i hear

And what do you hear from the government? Anything to entrust confidence? Nope. Any signs of them doing something? Nope.

We're in this mess not because of the media, but becuase of indifference to everyday ordinary people and pure greed from the government.
Everyody's but ours fault should be FF's slogan in future, as they seem professionals at shifting the blame game.

flanzer

Bloody recession threads are the cause of the recession

Milkey Bar Kid

do u get taxed when u work in the public sector

Peppapig

yeah, its most likely the medias fault that the country is in such a state. Once they mentioned the word "Recession". The silly sheep that most of us are tightened up our belts immediately even if we weren't directly affected at the time. We stop buying so much from the local shops etc,( Because we thought we needed to ) then a whole vicious cycle started.

So basically if they said nothing people wouldn't have tightened their belts and yo get the picture

Bad Media!!

my mum was gonna buy a new car until she read all about this crashing second hand car market.. so yea, it has added to it.

people havn't stopped buying stuff because they've researched the statistics and figured out by themselves there's a recession.. they read the papers, shít a brick and add to it. human nature really..

Milkey Bar Kid

exactly




recessions over. open your wallets and buy irish. Gooooooooooooo Ireland

Milkey Bar Kid

is it just me or does this island fell very small at the moment

KnifeWRENCH

Milkey Bar Kid wrote: »

is it just me or does this island fell very small at the moment

Well since we're in recession I think we have to give up some of our unecessary land. Budget cuts and all that. I hear Co. Leitrim is slowly being eroded away.

dez_warlock

Apparently it has helped in making people aware how to spell recession correctly so it obviously isn't affecting you too much

Whosbetter?

Y'know, I'm not even slightly worried about this.

I'm old enough to rem the bad times here.
One of the last of them to see emigration as the only option.

Went to London in '89. Great! Loadsa work for everyone. Everybody happy!
It all changed very quick & very sudden only a few months later though.

It was the first time I heard the phrase ' Negative Equaty'.

Still 'twas'nt the end the end of the world, nobody died or anything.:rolleyes:

RaverRo808

I dont get what all the hubbub is about,when the so called 'boom' of the Celtic Tiger was in effect I was far worse off and so were alot of people I knew,from all walks of life,and Im fairly well educated and have experience,I was working sh*t jobs here and there with temporary contracts,so was only working 6 months at a time for crap,and then there was long periods of unemployment,3-4 months at a time,even my best efforts couldnt get me a job....................................also in terms of living,at the 'booms' peak,I was paying 1300 for a 1 bedroom apartment,and coupled with the bills and shopping and all that malarky I was living on buttons every month,never having a cent for myself..............................................................................but now,Im in a verly well paying stable job,and am renting a 3 bedroom house for 900 a month,and the cost of living is incredibly lower then it was 2 years ago,grocery shopping is f*ck all thanks to the likes of Lidl and Dunnes,bills are cheaper,and all the little mod-cons like laptops,televisions,stereos and the likes are gettign cheaper by the day,I have afew hundred quid handy every month,have to say,life is good,anyone suffering because of the economy my heart goes out to you,but Im getting a break after years of bleakness and misery during the so called 'boom' times

Electric Sheep

Milkey Bar Kid wrote: »

Do you think the media is making this resession worse for us all by dragging the country through the mud ?

You're right. The media should behave like an Irish family, ignore the elephant in the living room and pretend to the neighbors that everything is JUST FINE.

oppiuy

Long may it continue i say. Getting some great bargins at the moment.

deisebabe

How can anyone say that the media are making it worse? Yes people aren't spending as much. why? because they were purchasing things that were unnecessary. Before the talks of recession people weren't following harneys wise advice to "shop around". Instead we stayed shopping in the republic and paying over the odds.

my mum was gonna buy a new car until she read all about this crashing second hand car market

If the car was a necessity she would still have bought it. therefore the recession has prevented her from buying something she doesn't need.