Spurs V Newcastle Match Thread 19/04/09

TwoShedsJackson

Great, Mark 'the drunken bricklayer' Viduka is on.

That_Guy

Dukes and Oba on. Thank fcuk Nolan went off.

That_Guy

Good move turns into an inevitable waste.

That_Guy

Butt is useless.

M5

That_Guy wrote: »

Good move turns into an inevitable waste.

At least we are attacking now, giving the ball away for 60 mins b4 that, just doing it a bit further up this time

Duff

That_Guy wrote: »

Butt is useless.

Hit and hope.

mike65

Spurs will give you a chance.

M5

lol, right decision... unlucky

That_Guy

We're looking much better.

That_Guy

We cannot give another goal away just when we're coming back into it.

flyswatter

Lennons looking dangerous, good attempt a minute ago.

That_Guy

Smith you donkey.

M5

impossible to get the ball of Viduka, Here comes Defoe, script written already?

That_Guy

Martins is looking lively. Defoe..... Not someone you wanna see come on.

M5

That_Guy wrote: »

Martins is looking lively. Defoe..... Not someone you wanna see come on.

Had a mare last time for Pompey...

That_Guy

Taylor taking a card for the team.

That_Guy

Great save Steve Harper.

M5

Spurs on top again.....

That_Guy

We've created little in the last 5 or 10 minutes.

M5

oooooo, great effort

That_Guy

*sigh*

M5

Spurs just have to wait untill we give the ball back to them.... Awfull

That_Guy

Chance and a half.

M5

OMFG, were are my razor blades?

flyswatter

That was close! *relieved*

WhiteWashMan

donkey

M5

muck

That_Guy

That's it. How can we even contemplate winning our home games if we can't even perform well.

mike65

Two crap teams one could be in Europe next season, one will be in Championship next season.

M5

expected, Mr Ashley must be delighted to see his side winning, We need to win 3 home games to stay up, thats almost as many as we have managed all season. Relegation a probability now

WhiteWashMan

3 points. all that matters.

That_Guy

M5 wrote: »

expected, Mr Ashley must be delighted to see his side winning, We need to win 3 home games to stay up, thats almost as many as we have managed all season. Relegation a probability now

I reckon it's a certainty now.

YESSSSS!!! Come on you Spurs!

Limerick Dude

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

internelligent

I have very little confidence in Newcastle staying up. Wouldn't put any money on them getting at least a draw against ANY team in the PL atm.

Blazer

Ok..West Brom are more than likely gone.
So it's down to Newcastle/Middlesborough/Sunderland/Hull and possibly Blackburn.
Looking at Sunderland I can see them taking 6 points max.
Middlesborough 4 points maybe if they draw against us. For me Middlesborough are definitely gone.
Hull I can see only taking 3 points as well.
So can Newcastle get 8-9 points from their remaining fixtures? I hope so.


Newcastle's remaining fixtures. 30 points

Newcastle v Portsmouth
Liverpool v Newcastle
Newcastle v Middlesbrough
Newcastle v Fulham
Aston Villa v Newcastle

Middlesborough's remaining fixtures. 31 points

Arsenal v Middlesbrough 13.30
Middlesbrough v Man Utd
Newcastle v Middlesbrough
Middlesbrough v Aston Villa
West Ham v Middlesbrough

Sunderland's remaining fixtures. 35 points

West Brom v Sunderland
Sunderland v Everton
Bolton v Sunderland
Portsmouth v Sunderland
Sunderland v Chelsea

Hull's remaining fixtures 34 points.

Hull City v Liverpool
Aston Villa v Hull City
Hull City v Stoke City
Bolton v Hull City
Hull City v Man Utd

M5

To be honest if you look at it rationally Newcastle are gone. Theres no form to suggest otherwise. Newcastle of old would not be guaranteed 9 points form three games against sides who are also fighting for their lives. I believe the absolute best we can hope from those 3 games is 7 points which leaves us needing points from the games away to Liverpool and Aston Villa.

We made Spurs look top class today. We stood off and let them spray the ball to the next badly marked player. Our midfield seems to be getting worse and worse. Butt is finished, Taylor is only good for a dirty tackle or three, and Nolan is showing exactly why Bolton were delighted to get rid of him. Guthrie has to start the next game.

The most frustrating moment for me today was when but played the ball to Viduka on the left. He looked up and saw just Martins ahead of him. Everyone else was standing still. He attempted an extremely difficult pass and of course gave it away. Not one of these overpaid lazy shower of ****es even bothered exerting themselves to run into space!

Are Newcastle too big to go down?

Not with the disinterested ar*e h*les that we call a team playing for them. Pretty much every one of them deserves to be playing in the championship next season. The sad thing is they will mostly all move on to their next host....

Blazer

The only good thing I see about us going down is it might be the biggest kick up the arse for the ultra newcastle fans.
The ones that were shouting for Big Sam to be sacked, Souness to be sacked and so on.
Giving into these guys by the chairmen has led to Newcastle's ruin.
I know fans are the bread and butter of clubs but you cannot be held to ransom by them.
Ashley should have had the balls to keep Big Sam, tell the fans this is the way the club will be run and if they don't like it fcuk off and support Sunderland.
Instead he gave in, sacked Sam, brought in Keegan, sacked Keegan or whatever, brougth in Kinnear :eek: and then Shearer.
No wonder we're fcuked.

That_Guy

Mathew Reilly wrote: »

The only good thing I see about us going down is it might be the biggest kick up the arse for the ultra newcastle fans.
The ones that were shouting for Big Sam to be sacked, Souness to be sacked and so on.
Giving into these guys by the chairmen has led to Newcastle's ruin.
I know fans are the bread and butter of clubs but you cannot be held to ransom by them.
Ashley should have had the balls to keep Big Sam, tell the fans this is the way the club will be run and if they don't like it fcuk off and support Sunderland.
Instead he gave in, sacked Sam, brought in Keegan, sacked Keegan or whatever, brougth in Kinnear :eek: and then Shearer.
No wonder we're fcuked.

Mike Ashley is an idiot anyway. Knows nothing about the club and so relies on the thousands of fans to make his mind up about things. Fair enough getting rid of Allardyce was a bit unfair and was given very little time to work anything really but I like many fans wanted him out because the football we were playing bar maybe the first game of the season under him was terrible.

Looking back on the performance today I just feel that if a legend like Shearer can't influence the players into playing well then who can?

We're a joke of a club and this whole regime of bringing in temporary managers will not work for us should we get relegated. We need to stick with one manager. A good experienced manager who can take us forward a great deal. I don't see that being JFK. It's hard to assume that he'll still be in charge next season after his operation.

The future doesn't seem too bright.

Blazer

Ask yourself this?
Would Newcastle be facing relegation if Sam was still in charge?
Not a bloody chance.
Even with Souness who I never wanted I couldn't see us being in this boat.
Newcastle need to stick with one manager,,,the fans especially need to stick with manager regardless of whether they wanted him or not.
The club is bigger than any one fan.

Aidric

I watched about 40 mins of this game today and Newcastle were comprehensively played off the park by an ever improving Spurs side. Looking through their side I don't think they have enough quality to stay up. They were completely hapless for the most part today.

That_Guy

Mathew Reilly wrote: »

Ask yourself this?
Would Newcastle be facing relegation if Sam was still in charge?
Not a bloody chance.
Even with Souness who I never wanted I couldn't see us being in this boat.
Newcastle need to stick with one manager,,,the fans especially need to stick with manager regardless of whether they wanted him or not.
The club is bigger than any one fan.

I agree that our situation with managers has probably been the worst out of every club in the Premier League. I agree too that yes we should keep one mananger but Allardyce wasn't the man to take us further.

I know he did a good job at Bolton but they never really got anywhere under him. They were always just a mid table team not challenging for anything. As good a manager as he is I just feel that we need somebody who knows the city, the fans and the realistic expectations that we can achieve.

I would absolutely love Steve Bruce to come into Newcastle eventually. He's done a fantastic job with Wigan this season.

M5

Mathew Reilly wrote: »

Ask yourself this?
Would Newcastle be facing relegation if Sam was still in charge?
Not a bloody chance.
Even with Souness who I never wanted I couldn't see us being in this boat.
Newcastle need to stick with one manager,,,the fans especially need to stick with manager regardless of whether they wanted him or not.
The club is bigger than any one fan.

Do you remember how we were playing under Allardyce? In 3 games we managed 2 shots on target. The team was so destroyed mentally by him that the new manager took 9 games to get a win! We had won 2/10 when he was sacked. He had to go. In fact I agree with pretty much every sacking since Robson. I don’t think that we sack managers too much. I think we consistently hire the WRONG manager. Get a proven manager with success in England or some other league, not some rookie or some mid table manager. Then everyone will be behind them. I have been completely underwhelmed by every appointment since Robson, Keegan included.

Blazer

This is his record in 8 months

eight wins, six draws and 10 defeats.

30 points out of 24 matches. Against not good but definitely not as bad as where we are now.

That_Guy

M5 wrote: »

I have been completely underwhelmed by every appointment since Robson, Keegan included.

As nice as it was to have Keegan back it was too big an ask to jump straight in and expect winning ways. Football had changed drastically since he was with City.

Great manager and a legend in Newcastle but we didn't have the players to apply his attacking style of football. I don't think we'll ever have that again. It certainly doesn't seem that way at the moment.

Charlie

Mathew Reilly wrote: »

Ask yourself this?
Would Newcastle be facing relegation if Sam was still in charge?
Not a bloody chance.
Even with Souness who I never wanted I couldn't see us being in this boat.
Newcastle need to stick with one manager,,,the fans especially need to stick with manager regardless of whether they wanted him or not.
The club is bigger than any one fan.

That's such a moot point. We wouldn't be where we we're if Keegan wasn't knifed.

We are in this mess because of the disastrous transfer policy of Mike Ashley, and the manner in which he has run this club.

We we're on the road to nowhere under Sam. Sure, we probably wouldn't be where we are now, but like I said, Keegan wouldn't of had us here, and I genuinely believed he was better equipped to take us forward than Allardyce. You only need to look at the results and quality of play he had instilled in us once he was able to mould the team in his image.

Keegan, with even a modest budget, and the freedom to manage as a manager should be given, would of had us pushing for 7/8th this season.

Charlie

That_Guy wrote: »

Great manager and a legend in Newcastle but we didn't have the players to apply his attacking style of football. I don't think we'll ever have that again. It certainly doesn't seem that way at the moment.

The football he had us playing end of last season/start of this one, says different!?

That_Guy

Charlie wrote: »

The football he had us playing end of last season/start of this one, says different!?

We had desire then.

M5

Mathew Reilly wrote: »

This is his record in 8 months

eight wins, six draws and 10 defeats.

30 points out of 24 matches. Against not good but definitely not as bad as where we are now.

But we were getting worse and worse and if you look at the fixtures we had under him they were the easier fixtures....

WhiteWashMan

i honestly cant see newcaslte getting more than 5 points for the rest of their season.