PFA Awards announced (Giggs and Young win)

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Just saw the odds on this and Giggs is 4-11 Fav with Vidic @ 3-1 - surely this is purely sentimental reasons on behalf of the other players. I mean how in God's right mind can Giggs win this - I wouldnt have him in my top 10. So far he has played 1133 mins exactly which is just over 11 games??????? and has scored the awesome tally of 1 PL goal with 7 assists - wow player of the year especially for a winger/corner taker/free kick taker. It truly is laughable.

How he was even nominated is a disgrace - talk about someones reputation preceding them. This is purely because of people feeling a bit sentimental because his career is coming to an end and he cannot consider himself to be an automatic first choice. Granted he was a fantastic player and still is in periods but PFA player of the year - 1133 mins ya right.

Just put it like this - if Park-Si-Jung had played exactly the same way as Giggs did this year - would he be the PFA Player of the Year?

Vidic has shown he is the best defender in the world and has been the PL's most consistently brilliant player this year that he should win it hands down.
Ah but poor ol Giggsy is soon retiring - lets give it to him.

Has been a fantastic player over the years, his medal haul is a testimony to this but Player of the year this year, definitely not imo.

dannydiamond

If he wins it,i'm pretty sure that every player and football fan knows exactly why,so I wouldn't be too bothered about it tbh.
I guess the real travesty would be that a player who truly deserves it would be missing out,on what is widely regarded as a huge honour.

A7X

I really can't see what the other players are seeing for him to be even nominated.

Vidic wins it hands down for me, but this award is ridiculous at times.

Pighead

I'm a big Giggsy fan but to say he has been the player of the year is ridiculous and i don't think anybody could really argue otherwise. It's a bit like FHM putting Liz Taylor in at number 1 in their Top 100 sexiest women of the year poll for 2009. Bad decision if he gets it.

Pighead

Pighead wrote: »

I'm a big Giggsy fan but to say he has been the player of the year is ridiculous and i don't think anybody could really argue otherwise. It's a bit like FHM putting Liz Taylor in at number 1 in their Top 100 sexiest women of the year poll for 2009. Bad decision if he gets it.

She'd get my vote.

*Fap Fap

5starpool

They should rename it the lifetime achievement award. At least he would deserve that.

Definitely one of the 3 best Utd players of the last 20 years though (along with Keane and Scholes), and is a model professional, so from that regard he deserves loads of recognition, but I don't think the player of the year award should be used for this purpose.

A7X

The whole list is riddled with media hype from the time.

Im pretty sure when the piece of paper for this is shoved in the players faces to nominate ppl the most in form team at the moment will be the first to pop into their head.

The players have too much to do (snigger) than study every player in the leagues form and really decide who deserves it.

daithijjj

All of us non-united fans can say what we think of ferguson and united but theres one thing i think we can all agree on, Ryan Giggs has been an amazing player and pro for his whole career. He also happens to be a gentleman and i think he would be embarrased to pick up the award. Wouldnt surprise me if he handed it over to vidic in a training session. Thats if he does win it of course.

thegen

5starpool wrote: »

They should rename it the lifetime achievement award. At least he would deserve that.

Definitely one of the 3 best Utd players of the last 20 years though (along with Keane and Scholes), and is a model professional, so from that regard he deserves loads of recognition, but I don't think the player of the year award should be used for this purpose.

No not rename it.

They should have a special award for him on the night to recognise his contribution to football. He has been a model profesional and a superb role model to a host of youngsters growing up.

He deserves to be recognised by his peers.

doonothing

I'd have to say Vidic deserves it this year, he's been phenomenal. Giggs has had some excellent games this year.... but not Player of the Year, by any means

elshambo

If i remember rightly Giggs had a really good run of games around the time of the voting

so maybe the bookies are onto something here as they have probably had people snooping round clubs to find out who voted for who

That said Vidic at 3/1 isnt a bad price

daithijjj

elshambo wrote: »

If i remember rightly Giggs had a really good run of games around the time of the voting

so maybe the bookies are onto something here as they have probably had people snooping round clubs to find out who voted for who

That said Vidic at 3/1 isnt a bad price

Agree with that my friend. Giggsy, the sneaky little devil :P, was motm against chelsea at OT if i remember correctly, any chance that votes were cast the day or so after?

I think Gerrard is in with a great shout.

He has been outstanding this season

Highsider

Gigg's has been a fantastic player thoughout the years for man u of that there is no doubt, however is he the player of the year this time around ahead of Stevie G or Vidic? No is the answer. Don't really care who wins TBH.

PHB

I think it'd be a bit silly, but to be honest, he never won it when he should have so I guess it all works out if it happens. I'd expect Vidic though, based on the form he was in when it was voted on.

Mitch Connor

based on this actual season, Giggs does not deserve it. If he does win it, no ABU will ever let it go either, they'll crow about it for years to come.

So I hope Giggs gets it .

On form for the season in total Gerrard should get it, but based on the form voted on, Vidic has a great, great chance.

ironictoaster

I think Vidic deserves it, he's ridiculously consistent player.

deisedevil

No one has been more successful than Giggs in the PL but this award should be based only on the best player for one particular season.

Giggs looks set to get it but Vidic truly deserves it.

K4t

5starpool wrote: »

They should rename it the lifetime achievement award. At least he would deserve that.

Definitely one of the 3 best Utd players of the last 20 years though (along with Keane and Scholes), and is a model professional, so from that regard he deserves loads of recognition, but I don't think the player of the year award should be used for this purpose.

A new lifetime award.*

Vidic deserves it but he will not begrudge Giggs getting the award at all

Barr

Wheres Lampard ? - this list is a joke

Dave!

Coulda sworn there was like 2 threads on this already...

Yeah the award is a joke in very many ways

It should be between Vidic and Gerrard IMO

Giggs looks set to win it on the basis of sentimentality

What can ya do !

Shanotheslayer

Vidic,Gerrard or maybe Jagielka(big maybe)

Barr

I get Vidic,Gerrard not the rest , Alsonso and Ireland also deserve a mention

GLaDOS

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Vidic,Gerrard or maybe Jagielka(big maybe)

Astronomical maybe, seeing as how he isn't niminated :pac:

Shanotheslayer

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Astronomical maybe, seeing as how he isn't niminated :pac:

Fail by myself:pac:

Karmafaerie

Jagielka's had an amazing season.

That_Guy

He'll only get it because his career will be over soon enough. He has played well whenever he has been selected to play but he hasn't been a consistent first team starter.

Headshot

Karmafaerie wrote: »

Jagielka's had an amazing season.

one for the books here

I agree with you Karmafaerie a brilliant season

himself and Lescott are the 2nd best defensive partnership in the PL

SlickRic

PHB wrote: »

to be honest, he never won it when he should have so I guess it all works out if it happens.

to be fair, i don't remember one season where he has deserved to win it. he's never been THE outstanding player of any given year.

he deserves a lifetime recognition from his peers though. one of THE outstanding players over the course of the Premier League's existence.

ziggy

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Mr Alan

its a farce if he wins it.

and i like him.

they should give it to Gerrard or Vidic and give him a special award

SlickRic

Mr Alan wrote: »

they should give it to Gerrard or Vidic and give him a special award

this is what any right-thinking person would do. any of them in the PFA?:rolleyes:

given the list they managed to come up with in the first place, we all know the answer to that one....

dannydiamond

SlickRic wrote: »

to be fair, i don't remember one season where he has deserved to win it. he's never been THE outstanding player of any given year.

he deserves a lifetime recognition from his peers though. one of THE outstanding players over the course of the Premier League's existence.

I totally agree,one of the the best players the premier league has seen,he fully deserves recognition and perhaps an outstanding career type award but AFAIK this doesn't exist.
I wholeheartedly agree with his career and ability being recognised, but the PFA award is for the best player of the season(or up until February:rolleyes:)
and it's just plain wrong not to honour the player who actually has outshone his peers throughout the year.

Guy:Incognito

creggy wrote: »

I think Vidic deserves it, he's ridiculously consistent player.

Except when he doesnt play well.:D

witnessmenow

In fairness to vidic i can only think of one game where he didnt play well(and boy did he have a howler!) Was it voted for before or after the Liverpool-united game?

Dave!

before

kida

SlickRic wrote: »

this is what any right-thinking person would do. any of them in the PFA?:rolleyes:

given the list they managed to come up with in the first place, we all know the answer to that one....

The players come up with the list AFAIK

Mitch Connor

kida wrote: »

The players come up with the list AFAIK

yeah - i thought the list was simply the 5 most voted for players (the result is sealed before the list is announced)

kida

Mitch Connor wrote: »

yeah - i thought the list was simply the 5 most voted for players (the result is sealed before the list is announced)

Pity its that was as would love to see Gary Nevilles voting slip given you can't vote for your own team mates.

CHD

Complete joke if he gets it. VDS and Ronaldo shouldn't be up for it either imo. Ireland should be in there for the senior award, if he was English he would be and would be guaranteed the young player award. Jagielka and Lampard should probably be in there too. Worst part of it is the United squad have to vote for Gerrard, thats retarded.

Giggs deserves recognition but not this award.

Complete and utter joke, lost all creditibility or what little it had to me now anyway. Vidic HAS to get it.

Cyrus

Headshot wrote: »

one for the books here

I agree with you Karmafaerie a brilliant season

himself and Lescott are the 2nd best defensive partnership in the PL

how do you make that out? it must be entirely subjective because they have conceded 34 goals this year versus 20 for chelsea and 21 for united and liverpool (the leagues top scorers)

Cyrus

witnessmenow wrote: »

In fairness to vidic i can only think of one game where he didnt play well(and boy did he have a howler!) Was it voted for before or after the Liverpool-united game?

he has had a few dodgy ones since, it seemed to knock his confidence but all votes were before, which is a joke in itself

mormank

CHD wrote: »

Complete joke if he gets it. VDS and Ronaldo shouldn't be up for it either imo. Ireland should be in there for the senior award, if he was English he would be and would be guaranteed the young player award. Jagielka and Lampard should probably be in there too. Worst part of it is the United squad have to vote for Gerrard, thats retarded.

Giggs deserves recognition but not this award.

Complete and utter joke, lost all creditibility or what little it had to me now anyway. Vidic HAS to get it.

wait a sec. how does this work. i thought players could vote for whoever they want and then after this the top 6 or whatever become the nominees...if it is done that the nominees are put forward and then you have to vote for one of these i think the entire utd squad might feel very aggrieved and gerrard has to have a great chance as he gets over 5% of the votes by default!! finally UtD having a giant squad will work out in gerrards favour!

smemon

Giggs has been a passenger since christmas. As stand in captain for a few matches when utd were in trouble, he's been awful - truely awful.

He should retire this year for his own benefit - keep him on as a coach or mentor or something....

Both himself and gary neville must question their positions after this summer - they are no longer 1st choice players (imo) so time to bow out while they still have respect

CHD

smemon wrote: »

Giggs has been a passenger since christmas. As stand in captain for a few matches when utd were in trouble, he's been awful - truely awful.

He should retire this year for his own benefit - keep him on as a coach or mentor or something....

Both himself and gary neville must question their positions after this summer - they are no longer 1st choice players (imo) so time to bow out while they still have respect

Giggs will always have respect, the mans a legend of the game and imo does not need to retire this year.

Loomis

CHD wrote: »

Complete joke if he gets it. VDS and Ronaldo shouldn't be up for it either imo. Ireland should be in there for the senior award, if he was English he would be and would be guaranteed the young player award. Jagielka and Lampard should probably be in there too. Worst part of it is the United squad have to vote for Gerrard, thats retarded.

Giggs deserves recognition but not this award.

Complete and utter joke, lost all creditibility or what little it had to me now anyway. Vidic HAS to get it.

Why not exactly?
Ronaldo is joint top scorer in the league. He's no where near the form he showed last year but he was never gonna repeat that this year. If last season didn't happen people would look on this as a good run by him rather than dismissing it. Though according to many he didn't deserve it last year either so I may be wasting my time.
Van Der Sar has joint second (with Liverpool) least goals conceded, joint (with Chelsea) most number of clean sheets and broke the record for consecutive clean sheets during the year. Goal keepers are rarely nominated - what exactly does one have to do to merit it if not what Van Der Sar has done this year?

Xavi6

VDS is more of a liability than anything else these days. There was some stat about how many shots he actually had to save in that clean sheet run. The number was very low, thanks to such a good defence.

He should not be on that list ahead of Schwarzer.

CHD

VDS did sweet feck all in the clean sheet run, Taibi could have got that record with how well the united backline played. Ronaldo is having a good season, just isn't deserving to be on that list ahead of certain players imo.

Mitch Connor

Xavi6 wrote: »

VDS is more of a liability than anything else these days. There was some stat about how many shots he actually had to save in that clean sheet run. The number was very low, thanks to such a good defence.

He should not be on that list ahead of Schwarzer.

Personally, i think it is the sign of a quality keeper that they can maintain their concentration and keep themselves ready when not involved for most of the game, to make those one or two quality saves that still need to be made. For me, the hardest part of being a keeper for top club is the periods in a game where you are doing nothing. I would say there have been a number of keepers who have failed at big clubs simply because they are not up to the task of maintaining their concentration and reactions over the full 90 minutes when not engaged in the game actively for long periods. Friedel at Liverpool, Howard and Bosnich at United would be examples of this. I would say Friedels form at Blackburn, and Howards at Everton, was/is very much down to be constantly involved in the game.