Dial Up?

Eyeballs

I know this may not be the place to post this, but I'm not sure. A mate of mine in county waterford has got dial up internet( no broadband in his area yet) and I remember when I had it I was using a local or national number to access the NET ( 051/ 01) but for the life of me i cant remember how I set it up. He has a package for phone calls to allow him unlimited local and national calls so I want to try set him up so he doesn't need those premium internet numbers. Any help please?

johnciall

what number is he currently dialing?

Eyeballs

As far as I remember its a 1892 number

jor el

I don't think you'll find any local number dial ups any more, and I think they mostly changed to stop people doing exactly what you're trying to do here. The telecos don't want the free talktime minutes used on Internet calls, as there's a greater chance of them being utilised more.

johnciall

From Eircom website:

With the 1892 150150 dial-up number you will continue to pay the same rates. These rates are: Daytime 5.07c Evening 1.26c Weekend 1.26c The standard minimum call charge of 6.35c applies. Prices include VAT @ 21%.

Hardly a premium rate



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Eyeballs

I know they dont want it but that doesnt mean it cant be done, as for the cost of the premium rate, if he's already paying for a package and he just connects to the pc and diconnects and reconnects every hour he could possibly stay online for as long as he likes without it costing any extra. I had this set up on my old pc but i cant for the life of me remember how I did it

vibe666

the 1892 numbers are forwarded to regular regional number anyway, or at least they used to be. afaik any lo-call (or premium) number has to have a regular number behind it anyway. i used to have one of the dublin numbers for eircom, but it left my brain long ago, sorry.

1892 numbers are charged at local rate anyway, they aren't premium numbers, that's the whole point of them. am assuming he's calling the eircom dialup number 1892 150150? it's a lo-call number which means it's charged are local rates regardless of where in ireland you ring it from.

if he's not an eircom customer it may cost slightly more, but he's better off calling his phone provider and finding out what their lo-call dialup numbers are.

Eyeballs

I see where yere coming from with the cost but if all national calls are in the price of the package then I make a local or national call to get on the net, there is no charge to the bill for internet calls(1892). I had used this thru the numbers on http://iiu.taint.org/w/FreeDialupIsps but the page doesnt work anymore, these numbers must be floating around somewhere?

godskitchen

johnciall wrote: »

From Eircom website:



Hardly a premium rate



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You are kidding right? As far as I am concerned paying per minute for the internet is premium rate at any cost!

OP, I am sure you have looked into mobile BB from Three/Voda/O2? If he can even get O2 in his house he will get EDGE, much better than dial up.

amtc

You can't use geographic numbers for accessing the web any more, it was replaced by 1892 and no ISP is allowed to support Geographic numbers.

Eyeballs

If the broadband comes thru the phone line and your call come thru the same line then why can't he dial a landline number to get on the net. I did it for a couple of years even tho the 1891/1892 numbers were in use. I refuse to beleive it can't be done anymore and it would be an ideal backup for people on other broadband isp's that if they're connection went down they could browse with dial up till it was restored

amtc

It's a ComReg decision...basically internet traffic can't go through geographic numbers.

Clareman

Oceanfree's number is 1890-923204

vibe666

amtc wrote: »

You can't use geographic numbers for accessing the web any more, it was replaced by 1892 and no ISP is allowed to support Geographic numbers.

not entirely true.

every 1891 or 1892 number has geographic numbers hidden behind it, you just have to know what they are.

when you dial 1892 150150 it is automatically forwarded to the regular geographic number that it sits on top of.

back in the good old days when dialup was king, i used to work for eircom.net and we occasionally had to give out a geographic number to someone who was travelling and couldn't be arsed finding out the local numbers for an ISP wherever they were and demanded we give them a number they could dial from their location to get their email etc. (you can't dial 1891 or 1892 numbers from outside ireland) and we had to give them out.

i have a couple of the dublin ones on the tip of my tongue but i can't quite get them out of my head. it has been quite a few years now though.

amtc

I'm well aware that 189X numbers have geographic numbers behind them. However ComReg still won't let the companies advertise the geographic number, as 189X numbers are groomed in a different way more suitable for bursty traffic.

BaconZombie

vibe666,

If you can remember any of them or even the range they are in can you PM them to me?

vibe666 wrote: »

not entirely true.

every 1891 or 1892 number has geographic numbers hidden behind it, you just have to know what they are.

when you dial 1892 150150 it is automatically forwarded to the regular geographic number that it sits on top of.

back in the good old days when dialup was king, i used to work for eircom.net and we occasionally had to give out a geographic number to someone who was travelling and couldn't be arsed finding out the local numbers for an ISP wherever they were and demanded we give them a number they could dial from their location to get their email etc. (you can't dial 1891 or 1892 numbers from outside ireland) and we had to give them out.

i have a couple of the dublin ones on the tip of my tongue but i can't quite get them out of my head. it has been quite a few years now though.

watty

From old docs
last time I tried the numbers worked

Eircom 1891 150 150
DNS1 159.134.237.6 DNS2 159.134.248.17
POP3 mail1.eircom.net
SMTP mail1.eircom.net
news.eircom.net
No IRC server

Eircom "free" some POP numbers
01-2171101, 01-4058301
01-6496101, 01-8192401
061-204101, 062-64101
065-6866401, 029-20001

Indigo 1891 110 110 ("GoLive" subscription service)
DNS1 194.125.133.10 DNS2 194.125.133.11
smtp.indigo.ie
pop.indigo.ie
news.indigo.ie
Optional settings:
Homepage should be home.indigo.ie
The proxy server name is www.proxy.indigo.ie Port 82
FTP is gofree.indigo.ie on port 21

"GoFree" Access:
Dublin 01-6047000
Cork City 021-939000
Arklow 0402-20400
Athlone 0902-83300
Bantry Co. Cork 027-20600
Birr Co. Offaly 0509-69600
Cashel Co. Tipperary 062-64300
Castlebar Co. Mayo 094-29800
Castleblaney, Co. Monaghan 042-9795300
Castlerea, Co. Roscommon 0907-25300
Drogheda Co. Louth 041-9870900
Dungarvan Co. Waterford 058-20065
Ennis, Co. Clare 065-6867600
Enniscorthy, Co Wexford 054-42004
Galway City 091-706300
Kanturk, Co Cork 029-20400
Kilkenny City 056-20059
Letterkenny, Co. Donegal 074-69000
Lifford, Co. Donegal 074-72600
Limerick City 061-209500
Mullingar, Co. Westmeath 044-39700
Naas, Co. Kildare 045-872600
Portlaoise, Co. Laois 0502-63032
Sligo Town 071-59100
Tralee, Co. Kerry 066-7149400
Virginia, Co. Cavan 049-8549400
Waterford City 051-303500

vibe666

you da man watty.

for some reason i have a repetitive number in my head for one of the dublin ones, but not sure if it's right. 01 211211 or something like that, but i honestly couldn't say for sure it's been a good 5-7 years now since i had to use them.

time was, i could recite about half the info in watty's post off the top of my head, but that's long gone along with most of my braincells.